Jump to content

  • IMPORTANT: PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING

    Demonland has made the difficult decision to not permit this platform to be used to discuss & debate the off-field issues relating to the Melbourne Football Club including matters currently being litigated between the Club & former Board members, board elections, the culture at the club & the personal issues & allegations against some of our players & officials ...

    We do not take these issues & this decision lightly & of course we believe that these serious matters affecting the club we love & are so passionate about are worthy of discussion & debate & I wish we could provide a place where these matters can be discussed in a civil & respectful manner.

    However these discussions unfortunately invariably devolve into areas that may be defamatory, libelous, spread unsubstantiated rumours & can effect the mental health of those involved. Even discussion & debate of known facts or media reports can lead to finger pointing, blame & personal attacks.

    The repercussion is that these discussions can open this website, it’s owners & it’s users to legal action & may result in this website being forced to shutdown.

    Our moderating team are all volunteers & cannot moderate the forum 24/7 & as a consequence problematic content that contravenes our rules & standards may go unnoticed for some time before it can be removed.

    We reserve the right to delete posts that offend against our above policy & indeed, to ban posters who are repeat offenders or who breach our code of conduct.

    WE HAVE BUILT A FANTASTIC ONLINE COMMUNITY AT DEMONLAND OVER THE PAST 23 YEARS & WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THE CLUB WE LOVE & ARE SO PASSIONATE ABOUT.

    Thank you for your continued support & understanding. Go Dees.


Welcome to Demonland Matthew Jefferson


Supreme_Demon

Recommended Posts

39 minutes ago, Ugottobekidding said:

Taller version of Fritch

Then yes please! Bailey is a freak.

I think if the criticism of this kid is that he’s more a Hipwood than a Hawkins then that’s ok. We always need more skill and diverse options forward of the ball.

  • Like 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 11/11/2022 at 5:22 PM, adonski said:

 

The top two things for me that a KPD should have as part of their game is contested marking and goal kicking. After watching the two highlights packages of both Cadman and Jefferson several times IMO Jefferson has Cadman covered in both those areas. I’m then asking myself why is Cadman rated so far ahead of Jefferson phantom drafts. Cadman kicked 34 in 12 games this year which is a great achievement, Jefferson only played the six games (I’m guessing he was injured) for 14 goals. Cadman is more imposing at under 18’s at 88kg, 12kg’s heavier than Jefferson.

Aaron Cadman

National Championships, 2022

Victoria Country (National Talent Database)

National Talent Database

Player

4Games Played
2Best Player
10Total Goals
 
VICTORIA COUNTRY U18 BOYS
GP
 
BP
 
G
 
TOTAL 4 2 10
NAB AFL National Championships 4 2 10
VS Victoria Metro U18 BoysRound 7, 22 Sep 2022 1 1 3
VS Western Australia U18 BoysRound 5, 17 Jul 2022 1 1 3
VS Allies BoysRound 3, 03 Jul 2022 1 - 2
VS South Australia U18 BoysRound 2, 26 Jun 2022 1 - 2


Mathew Jefferson : 

National Championships, 2022

Victoria Metro (National Talent Database)

National Talent Database

Player

4Games Played
3Best Player
14Total Goals
 
VICTORIA METRO U18 BOYS
GP
 
BP
 
G
 
TOTAL 4 3 14
NAB AFL National Championships 4 3 14
VS Victoria Country U18 BoysRound 7, 22 Sep 2022 1 1 2
VS South Australia U18 BoysRound 4, 17 Jul 2022 1 - 3
VS Western Australia U18 BoysRound 3, 02 Jul 2022 1 1 7
VS Allies BoysRound 2, 25 Jun 2022 1 1 2


Aaron Cadman :

NAB League, 2022

Greater Western Victoria Rebels (NAB League)

NAB League

12Games Played
8Best Player
34Total Goals
 
GREATER WESTERN VICTORIA REBELS BOYS
GP
 
BP
 
G
 
TOTAL 12 8 34
NAB League Boys 12 8 34
VS Northern Knights BoysFinals Round 1, 27 Aug 2022 1 1 2
VS Geelong Falcons BoysRound 16, 21 Aug 2022 1 1 4
VS Gippsland Power BoysRound 15, 07 Aug 2022 1 1 3
VS Eastern Ranges BoysRound 14, 30 Jul 2022 1 - 2
VS Western Jets BoysRound 13, 23 Jul 2022 1 1 5
VS Oakleigh Chargers BoysRound 10, 18 Jun 2022 1 1 4
VS Dandenong Stingrays BoysRound 9, 04 Jun 2022 1 - 1
VS Western Jets BoysRound 8, 28 May 2022 1 1 5
VS Murray Bushrangers BoysRound 5, 01 May 2022 1 1 1
VS Sydney Swans (NAB League) BoysRound 4, 24 Apr 2022 1 - 3
VS Geelong Falcons BoysRound 3, 14 Apr 2022 1 - 0
VS Bendigo Pioneers BoysRound 1, 02 Apr 2022 1 1 4


Mathew Jefferson :

NAB League, 2022

Oakleigh Chargers (NAB League)

NAB League

Player

6Games Played
4Best Player
14Total Goals
 
OAKLEIGH CHARGERS BOYS
GP
 
BP
 
G
 
TOTAL 6 4 14
NAB League Boys 6 4 14
VS Bendigo Pioneers BoysFinals Round 1, 28 Aug 2022 1 - 3
VS Sandringham Dragons BoysRound 16, 20 Aug 2022 1 1 4
VS Calder Cannons BoysRound 4, 23 Apr 2022 1 1 3
VS Eastern Ranges BoysRound 3, 16 Apr 2022 1 1 0
VS Northern Knights BoysRound 2, 10 Apr 2022 1 1 3
VS Sandringham Dragons BoysRound 1, 03 Apr 2022 1 - 1

 

I’m thinking the National Championship is the biggest stage these kids have played on so their respective highlights for these games should be regarded higher than their TAC games. I would not be disappointed if we selected Jefferson with our first pick.

Edited by Bombay Airconditioning
Spelling
  • Like 5
  • Thanks 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

19 minutes ago, Nascent said:

@Bombay Airconditioning

Jefferson missed games at NAB level due to APS commitments with Wesley College. The stats I could find shows he kicked 25 goals in 5 games at that level.

Including a bag of 5 when directly opposed to his Chargers/Metro teammate Max Gruzewski. In fairness to Gru, I believe it was his first game back from injury. 

  • Like 3
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

28 minutes ago, ChaserJ said:

Including a bag of 5 when directly opposed to his Chargers/Metro teammate Max Gruzewski. In fairness to Gru, I believe it was his first game back from injury. 

He can take him on again, against the Giants.

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites


On 11/12/2022 at 11:07 AM, The heart beats true said:

Then yes please! Bailey is a freak.

I think if the criticism of this kid is that he’s more a Hipwood than a Hawkins then that’s ok. We always need more skill and diverse options forward of the ball.

Said this in a different fashion last week.

JVR was not scrutinised with his life like Matthew is being  and it's majorly his physical devopment. Yes needs building up but the prototype must be Fritta whom has developed each year since 2018. And Jeffo will join some very good players in our team and on the forward line. Part of a unit Dees always play best with that part of a team all being responsible and each different. 

Get him ASAP pick 13 or higher! 

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 minutes ago, Elwood 3184 said:

Although he looks spindly thin, there have been reports that he’s put on weight since the start of the season. Does the AFL have any data on the latest height and weight information for the current draft prospects?

Matthew Is now 84kgs and 195m And believe  aware of his development and need for this change.

I am very  bullish and pick 13 must go to Matthew if he is available. 
Might even turn out better than Cadman!!! 
 

  • Like 3
  • Haha 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

My view is this. Lets ask ourselves what our key forward stock will be in 2 years time without Brown and McDonald. Yes we can get one in a trade, but good ones are very hard to get and we shouldn’t bank on that. Without picking Jefferson, in 2 years time we have JVR (in his 4th year) and Schache (a back up KPF) and that’s it! Yes, we can get a Key Fwd in next years draft, but in 2 years time he’ll have only 1 year experience. JVR and and a 19 yr old won’t hold up when we’re contending. Key forwards normally take 3 to 5 years. 

With Jefferson it is:

-JVR (in his 4th year).

-Jefferson (in his 3rd year).

-Schache (a back up KPF).

  • Like 3
  • Thanks 1
  • Thinking 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Not only is this behind a firewall but judging from the names of the authors, it also seems to be connected to the Herald Sun and Murdoch Media. So if you happen to already have a subscription to the HS (as I do via my wife’s account) then you still need to subscribe to this lot. Clever marketing but I’m not buying. 

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 11/18/2022 at 6:40 PM, 58er said:

Matthew Is now 84kgs and 195m And believe  aware of his development and need for this change.

I am very  bullish and pick 13 must go to Matthew if he is available. 
Might even turn out better than Cadman!!! 
 

Matthew Jefferson will play many great games for the Red and Blue if selected🤩

Edited by picket fence
  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Slowly coming around to Jefferson the more I've thought about him in depth and the position he players and just watching his video's.

My only concern is that if we were to select him, his career would pan out more as that floating 3rd tall then a key positional FF or CHF.

Similar to how Jack Watts career panned when we all hoped he was going to be that traditional key forward that we lacked since Neitz retired.

 

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites


15 minutes ago, Mach5 said:

Getting strong Lucas Cook vibes for this draft...

The 2010 draft was compromised by the Gold Coast and the recruiters had not become as professional as they are today the lad looked good in his highlights but was a 1 trick pony basically bigger and stronger than his opponents, lacked mobility required for AFL.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

58 minutes ago, durango said:

The 2010 draft was compromised by the Gold Coast and the recruiters had not become as professional as they are today the lad looked good in his highlights but was a 1 trick pony basically bigger and stronger than his opponents, lacked mobility required for AFL.


Still, I have always had the distinct impression we hitched our star to Tom Lynch, who then ended up going to Gold Coast a pick earlier. Lucas Cook was a hastily-hatched ill-considered back-up plan based off his AA credentials and little more. But we were also hamstrung by the lack of quality alternatives available once our preferred choices were gone.

Edited by Mach5
  • Like 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, Mach5 said:


Still, I have always had the distinct impression we hitched our star to Tom Lynch, who then ended up going to Gold Coast a pick earlier. Lucas Cook was a hastily-hatched ill-considered back-up plan based off his AA credentials and little more. But we were also hamstrung by the lack of quality alternatives available once our preferred choices were gone.

The fact of the matter is that Cook was selected as the All Australian CHF off the back of some very solid form at Under 18 level while Lynch had only recently shown draft worthy form. At the time, it looked like a solid drafting decision but after one training run, he was cooked (pun intended).

Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 hours ago, Elwood 3184 said:

The fact of the matter is that Cook was selected as the All Australian CHF off the back of some very solid form at Under 18 level while Lynch had only recently shown draft worthy form. At the time, it looked like a solid drafting decision but after one training run, he was cooked (pun intended).


At the time it reeked of selection based on positional needs irrespective of the talent on offer. Lynch was clearly the superior option going into the draft. 

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 11/18/2022 at 7:39 PM, xman97 said:

My view is this. Lets ask ourselves what our key forward stock will be in 2 years time without Brown and McDonald. Yes we can get one in a trade, but good ones are very hard to get and we shouldn’t bank on that. Without picking Jefferson, in 2 years time we have JVR (in his 4th year) and Schache (a back up KPF) and that’s it! Yes, we can get a Key Fwd in next years draft, but in 2 years time he’ll have only 1 year experience. JVR and and a 19 yr old won’t hold up when we’re contending. Key forwards normally take 3 to 5 years. 

With Jefferson it is:

-JVR (in his 4th year).

-Jefferson (in his 3rd year).

-Schache (a back up KPF).

We need a tall forward. Without a doubt. Jefferson is the right age, right height and will likely be picked up around our first pick in the draft.

Is he actually good enough though? What if we get to 2025 and Jefferson is a bust? Most will back in Jason Taylor to make the correct decision. I just hope it's not a case of 'we needed a tall and he was what was available at the time'. Which is how I feel about the Lucas Cook draft pick.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    PODCAST: Match SIM vs Richmond

    The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Tuesday, 20th February @ 8:30pm. Join George, Binman & I as we dissect the Scratch Match loss to the Tigers and hopefully provide me with some free MFCSS therapy. You questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show. If you would like to leave us a voicemail please call 03 9016 3666 and don't worry no body answers so you don't have to talk to a

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 38

    PREGAME: Practice Match vs Carlton

    The Dees will play their final practice match before the start of the 2024 seasons against the Blues at Ikon Park. What are you wanting to see in this final hit out before the season proper? Will Clarry & Salo return to the side? 2024 AAMI Community Series | Carlton v Melbourne Date: Wednesday 28 February Time: 6:40pm (AEDT) Location: IKON Park | Wurundjeri

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 50

    POSTGAME: Match SIM vs Richmond

    The Dees were outclassed and outmuscled in its first practice hit out for the 2024 season against the Tigers going down by 23 points at Casey Fields. 

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 286

    GAMEDAY: Match SIM vs Richmond

    It's Game Day and it's been 156 days since the Demons were bundled out of the finals in straight sets for the 2nd year in a row. Our redemption starts here. Remember it's only a practice match if we lose. Date: Sunday 18th Feb Location: Casey Fields Gate open: 9.30am Match commences: 10am Watch: Foxtel & Kayo Inclusions: Seven-quarter match simulation Signing opportunities Kids' activities Partner giveaways Demons Squad: 1. Steven May 2. Jacob Van Rooyen

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 402

    TRAINING: Saturday 17th February 2024

    On the eve of the Dees first practice match for the 2024 season a couple of Demonland Trackwatchers bring you their observations from today’s Captain’s Run at Gosch’s Paddock.  KEV MARTIN’S CAPTAIN’S RUN OBSERVATIONS Looks a a dress rehearsal Captain's run. 23 out doing drills.  Included is Will Verall, Kynan Brown, Bailey Laurie, Caleb Windsor, Blake Howes, Adam Tomlinson, Kade Chandler, Jack Billings and Josh Schache. Rehab include BBB, Tom Fullarton, TMac, AMW, Woey.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    PREGAME: Match SIM vs Richmond

    The Demons will take to the field in their first hit out for 2024 against another team when they take on the Tigers at Casey Fields in a Scratch Match consisting of 7 "quarters". Melbourne vs Richmond Date: Sunday 18th Feb Location: Casey Fields Gate open: 9.30am Match commences: 10am Watch: Foxtel & Kayo Inclusions: Seven-quarter match simulation Signing opportunities Kids' activities Partner giveaways What are your expectations? What do you want to see from

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 130

    TRAINING: Monday 12th February 2024

    Clayton Oliver was integrated back into the main training group today for the first time in 2024 after completing a 2km time trial. FriendlyFellow, a new Demonland Trackwatcher hit Gosch's Paddock on a hot and windy morning to bring you his observations of the session. Disclaimer: Saw on the socials they were down at Gosch’s Paddock so headed down for a quick look. Little to no presence of other track watchers and no current live thread, so as a first time contributor, giving what the peopl

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports 6

    TRAINING: Wednesday 7th February 2024

    A bunch of Demonland Trackwatchers enjoyed the sunshine at Gosch's Paddock to watch a rapidly depleted Dees go through their paces with exactly a month to go until a ball is bounced in anger. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS REHAB: Brown, Hunter, AMW, Fullarton, Turner, Clarry, TMac, Melksham, McAdam ABSENT: Smith All players in Blue guernseys today. Clarry is in the building (Gosch’s Paddock). Petty is present with footy boots on.  Clarry doing dril

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports 1

    THAT WAS THE YEAR THAT WAS: 2023

    When the dust settled on 2023, the Melbourne Football Club coach Simon Goodwin lamented that the club knew it needed to score more to land a second premiership in the current era. He opined that an average of one more goal per game would have had his charges in football’s stratosphere.  Goodwin was right and, based on his team’s scoring opportunities, that extra goal (and more) was well within its grasp if only they had better converted their shots at goal. Take the side’s last six defeats

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Special Features 7
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!

×
×
  • Create New...