CASEY: PF vs Brisbane

[WERRIDEE 5,346]

4 minutes ago, mo64 said:

For starters, the Pies aren't going to pay half of Grundy's contract for 5 years ($500k pa). Secondly, giving up a 1st rd pick on a player who struggled in 2021 and basically missed all of 2022 through injury is insanity. He is not a current AA player, so his deeds in the past are irrelevant. 

The Pies need a majority of Grundy's contract off their books in order to get the players they have targeted. The fact that they see Grundy as being surplus to their needs is telling. He's a salary dump, and we are reportedly his only suitor. A token pick is all we should be giving up.

Give me the details on how Collingwood let Treloar go and it will be the same with Grundy. I agree with one thing a first rnd pick is a bit too steep a second rnd pick would be better. What number is our second rnd pick?

[Kick_It_To_Pickett 3,291]

16 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

Give me the details on how Collingwood let Treloar go and it will be the same with Grundy. I agree with one thing a first rnd pick is a bit too steep a second rnd pick would be better. What number is our second rnd pick?

If they want a salary dump he will go for 3rd round pick. Like the way we got Ben Brown. That is if they genuinely want him off their books. 

[chook fowler 19,248]

I saw Yze and many players at the game - but not Goodwin. Not sure if that is correct but not great if so - especially coming up to exit interviews

[adonski 10,804]

4 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

I saw Yze and many players at the game - but not Goodwin. Not sure if that is correct but not great if so - especially coming up to exit interviews

[chook fowler 19,248]

1 minute ago, adonski said:

No, just an innocent enquiry. 

[alpha33 304]

50 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

Garbage, they still would of lost.

The second part of the proposition about getting rid of Goodwin and the Match Committee is garbage but the part about whether changing up the key forward posts might have brought about a different result is very much up in the air given that Brown and the resting rucks gave us donuts!

[demon3165 2,569]

17 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

I saw Yze and many players at the game - but not Goodwin. Not sure if that is correct but not great if so - especially coming up to exit interviews

You don't think they know who will be not on the list at seasons end?

[Deeman 1,479]

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

THE CASEY SHOW by KC from Casey

The Casey Demons will play in the VFL Grand Final at Ikon Park next Sunday after overturning their final round loss to the Brisbane Lions Reserves and dominating the Preliminary Final to emerge victorious by 51 points. 

And while the distance in standards between the AFL and VFL at finals time is admittedly a wide one and the opposition and conditions different, there were a few Demons on display who excelled to the point where one was left to ask whether they could have made the difference had they taken part in proceedings the night before at the MCG. 

For instance, Casey controlled the aerial duels in this match with a superiority all over the ground of 81 marks to 36. The discrepancy was clear everywhere and it set the scene for a confidence-laden display that was in stark contrast to that of the Melbourne which busted the game apart in the first half and slowed to close to a standstill in the end. One cannot help but wonder how that forward line would have performed with the boundless enthusiasm of key forward Jacob Van Rooyen with his marking strength and the experience and the strength of Tom McDonald. Each of them contributed three goals from key forward positions.

The Demons made a slow start against the breeze at Casey Fields. They conceded the first goal and took a little over half of the opening stanza to record their first major when Andy Moniz-Wakefield took advantage of a great pass from Luke Dunstan. A couple more late in the term opened up a 13 point lead at the first break which they extended to 33 by half time.

Unlike their AFL counterparts, the Casey variety of Demonkind never relented. Indeed, they picked up a head of steam and, with winners all over the field they smashed the Lions in the premiership quarter to go into the final break with a comfortable lead and then coasted to record a comfortable victory in the end. It was a case of the best from Casey on show.

Casey had winners everywhere with their control of the key forward positions and an impenetrable defence led by Adam Tomlinson, Matt Buntine, Corey Ellison and Jake Bowey who was quite dynamic on the day and was another who showed the crowd what might have been if only the Melbourne selectors had shown some more risk and daring. 

The Demons dominated the midfield positions through veteran Jimmy Munro and Luke Dunstan with the run and pace of Toby Bedford and Kade Chandler always a factor in  overturning the Brisbane dominance of their Round 22 encounter.

Special mention should be made of Sam Weideman’s performances in the ruck. Despite his size, he has been growing (pardon the pun) nicely into the role and one wonders whether the Demons will try to develop him in the role going forward.

The Demons also have plenty to look forward to in the form of their Northern Territory Next Generation Recruit Andy Moniz-Wakefield who shows all of the trademarks of a potential X Factor player of the future. Another in that category is Blake Howes who has the height and pace to fill several roles with another pre season or two behind him. Both will benefit from the experience of a final series at this level. With Bailey Laurie, Taj Woewodin and Deakyn Smith all out this week, there is a depth of talent available for the club to reboot in future years.

However, there’s a premiership to be won in the meantime. Casey’s opponent will be decided later today when Southport and Gold Coast Reserves meet in the Second Preliminary Final.

CASEY DEMONS 3.3.21 7.6.48 12.7.79 15.9.99

BRISBANE LIONS 1.2.8 2.3.15 4.3.27 7.6.48

Goals 

Casey Demons McDonald Van Rooyen 3 Bedford Bowey Brown Chandler Grey Howes Moniz-Wakefield Valentine Weideman 

Brisbane Lions Lohmann 2 Coleman Cockatoo Mathieson Sharp Tunstill 

Best

Casey Demons Munro Bowey Tomlinson McDonald Van Rooyen Weideman

Brisbane Lions Robinson Smith Madden Cockatoo 

Statistics 

Oskar Baker 11 kicks 7 handballs 18 disposals 3 marks 4 tackles 72 dream team points
Toby Bedford 1 goal 1 behind 11 kicks 7 handballs 18 disposals 2 marks 9 tackles 95 dream team points
Jake Bowey 1 goal 14 kicks 9 handballs 23 disposals 3 marks 2 tackles 83 dream team points
Mitch Brown 1 goal 13 kicks 9 handballs 22 disposals 9 marks 2 tackles 96 dream team points
Matt Buntine 10 kicks 3 handballs 13 disposals 5 marks 2 tackles 58 dream team points
Kade Chandler 1 goal 1 behind 13 kicks 12 handballs 25 disposals 6 marks 8 tackles 115 dream team points
Luke Dunstan 15 kicks 10 handballs 25 disposals 6 marks 10 tackles 120 dream team points
Corey Ellison 3 kicks 2 handballs 5 disposals 1 marks tackle 20 dream team points
George Grey 1 goal 1 behind 11 kicks 8 handballs 19 disposals 3 marks 1 tackle 66 dream team points 
Blake Howes 1 goal 2 kicks 7 handballs 9 disposals 3 marks 3 tackles 47 dream team points
Tom McDonald 3 goals 2 behinds 9 kicks 11 handballs 20 disposals 1 mark 4 hit outs 79 dream team points 
Judd McVee 4 kicks 6 handballs 10 disposals 4 marks 1 tackle 40 dream team points 
Andy Moniz-Wakefield 1 goal 2 behinds kicks handballs disposals marks tackles dream team points
James Munro 15 kicks 12 handballs 27 disposals 6 marks 8 tackles 112 dream team points 
Fraser Rosman 1 kick 1 disposal 3 dream team points [injured]
Joel Smith 5 kicks 3 handballs 8 disposals 3 marks 2 tackles 38 dream team points
Roan Steele 5 kicks 4 handballs 9 disposals 1 mark 2 tackles 34 dream team points
Adam Tomlinson 18 kicks 4 handballs 22 disposals 4 marks 5 tackles 93 dream team points
Daniel Turner 6 kicks 1 handball 7 disposals 4 marks 7 tackles 57 dream team points
Ryan Valentine 1 goal 4 kicks 4 handballs 8 disposals 1 mark 26 dream team points
Jacob Van Rooyen 3 goals 1 behind 8 kicks 6 handballs 14 disposals 6 marks 3 tackles 4 hit outs 86 dream team points
Sam Weideman 1 goal 1 behind 9 kicks 4 handballs 13 disposals 4 marks 7 tackles 37 hit outs 117 dream team points
Mitch White 11 kicks 6 handballs 17 disposals 1 mark 12 tackles 93 dream team points

Congratulations to KC on becoming a Kings Counsel (I assume that’s what it stands for) now that Charlie has been promoted.

[gs77 3,915]

27 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

I saw Yze and many players at the game - but not Goodwin. Not sure if that is correct but not great if so - especially coming up to exit interviews

Maybe he's preparing for 40-odd exit interviews to be held in a couple of days?

[Lord Nev 13,512]

 

[layzie 32,775]

11 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

 

Haha get a game Mitch.

[Dee Viney Intervention 1,817]

21 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Didn’t need a shower. Casey have them a bath.

 

[drysdale demon 4,686]

1 hour ago, alpha33 said:

The second part of the proposition about getting rid of Goodwin and the Match Committee is garbage but the part about whether changing up the key forward posts might have brought about a different result is very much up in the air given that Brown and the resting rucks gave us donuts!

The caliber of player that both would have been playing on on Friday night would have been far greater than that of yesterday afternoon and Tmac only playing 1 game after around 10 weeks out is the major concern.

[drysdale demon 4,686]

1 hour ago, chook fowler said:

I saw Yze and many players at the game - but not Goodwin. Not sure if that is correct but not great if so - especially coming up to exit interviews

So just because you didn't see him there means he wasn't there, yeah okay.

[titan_uranus 24,562]

2 hours ago, mo64 said:

For starters, the Pies aren't going to pay half of Grundy's contract for 5 years ($500k pa). Secondly, giving up a 1st rd pick on a player who struggled in 2021 and basically missed all of 2022 through injury is insanity. He is not a current AA player, so his deeds in the past are irrelevant. 

The Pies need a majority of Grundy's contract off their books in order to get the players they have targeted. The fact that they see Grundy as being surplus to their needs is telling. He's a salary dump, and we are reportedly his only suitor. A token pick is all we should be giving up.

It's telling as to their horrendous list management, not so much to his ability.

They want him off their books because they don't have a choice - they can keep paying him, and he can probably come back and play good football for them, but given Cameron/Cox, that won't help them as much as moving him on and getting in the mids they're targeting to help replace Pendlebury, Sidebottom and Adams who are all ageing.

That's not to say Grundy's a lock to be an A-grader next year, and I agree that we shouldn't be falling over ourselves to pay for him. No matter what the motivation, if Collingwood want him off their list, we have the upper hand in the negotiations.

[cantstandyasam 700]

2 hours ago, mo64 said:

For starters, the Pies aren't going to pay half of Grundy's contract for 5 years ($500k pa). Secondly, giving up a 1st rd pick on a player who struggled in 2021 and basically missed all of 2022 through injury is insanity. He is not a current AA player, so his deeds in the past are irrelevant. 

The Pies need a majority of Grundy's contract off their books in order to get the players they have targeted. The fact that they see Grundy as being surplus to their needs is telling. He's a salary dump, and we are reportedly his only suitor. A token pick is all we should be giving up.

100% agree let's not get sucked in - we've always come away the loser in deals with those flogs

[george_on_the_outer 7,427]

12 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

It's telling as to their horrendous list management, not so much to his ability.

They want him off their books because they don't have a choice - they can keep paying him, and he can probably come back and play good football for them, but given Cameron/Cox, that won't help them as much as moving him on and getting in the mids they're targeting to help replace Pendlebury, Sidebottom and Adams who are all ageing.

That's not to say Grundy's a lock to be an A-grader next year, and I agree that we shouldn't be falling over ourselves to pay for him. No matter what the motivation, if Collingwood want him off their list, we have the upper hand in the negotiations.

Exactamundo!

They had to get rid of Stephenson and Treloar so they could stay under salary cap.  Getting rid of Grundy enables them to pay for the increases that will be expected from Daicos x2, Ginnivan and others on their recruiting radars.

[cantstandyasam 700]

2 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

Give me the details on how Collingwood let Treloar go and it will be the same with Grundy. I agree with one thing a first rnd pick is a bit too steep a second rnd pick would be better. What number is our second rnd pick?

As it currently stands 32

[Demon Jack 6,738]

 

[Bystander 899]

Perhaps Malthouse can help the demons negotiate the Grundy deal as he did for Carlton with Daisy.

Oh, hang on...

[old dee 23,486]

3 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

It's telling as to their horrendous list management, not so much to his ability.

They want him off their books because they don't have a choice - they can keep paying him, and he can probably come back and play good football for them, but given Cameron/Cox, that won't help them as much as moving him on and getting in the mids they're targeting to help replace Pendlebury, Sidebottom and Adams who are all ageing.

That's not to say Grundy's a lock to be an A-grader next year, and I agree that we shouldn't be falling over ourselves to pay for him. No matter what the motivation, if Collingwood want him off their list, we have the upper hand in the negotiations.

This could be a replay of the dogs last year. It may go down to the wire, I agree play hard ball. If the unexpected happens and Jackson stays what then? I assume we are out of the market for Grundy. 

[chook fowler 19,248]

Watching the Sun vs Sharks - I must get a life. Very poor standard. No way should Casey lose to either of them 

[jnrmac 19,890]

Where will the GF be played?

[Thehardtackler 785]

13 hours ago, drysdale demon said:

Garbage, they still would of lost.

You are entitled to your opinion but this is a coach who refused to play Luke Dunstan for most of the season and he would have had a huge impact when Petracca went down. We should have played him against Brisbane and rested Petracca. Petracca had little to no influence after half time. Petracca is one of the best players in the league when fit but he has a fractured leg. It is unethical and not in his best health interests to have played him in that condition. Sometimes player welfare comes above everything else. Goodwin needs to take a good long, hard look at himself and his part in this disastrous season.

Edited September 11, 2022 by Thehardtackler

[WalkingCivilWar 39,256]

24 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Where will the GF be played?

Next Sunday, Sept. 18th at Ikon Park (Princes Park). First bounce at 2:30pm. 

Tickets are $20 for adults, $15 for concession/pensioners and for kids under 15yo it’s free entry.