45 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

Didn’t sound too confident… I can’t see him getting up by Friday and taking the risk… the coaches need to back in the team with trac 

17 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

Because no one knows he’s got a fracture, just a bad corky. He’s a match winner and it’s a final, of course he stays on. Petracca can turn a game with 5 possessions.  Smith, he’s not winning the game for us. 

We subbed out Luke Jackdon against Brisbane because he had a corcked calf..

Watched the replay today with the conscious effort of seeing how Trac's body would respond after his injury. 

Pretty much every time he kicked the pill he was in obvious pain... Amazing effort to play out the remaining 3 & a half Qtrs.

The timing of this injury couldn't have come at a worse time.

He'll probably end up playing due to the stakes... but he really shouldn't be.

I’m sure that Tracc is in great hands with our medical team.  He will not play if there is risk of further damage, or his performance will be significantly hindered if he takes the field. 

Not sure why we made his actual injury public, because he'll only be targeted if he now plays.. Dr Peter Larkins said in today's paper many players have played with this injury before and not been targeted because nobody knew about it.

It’s a hard area to target when standing up. He just needs to make sure he doesn’t go to ground where players will try to them jump on him to aggravate it. 

Just stick him down in the forward pocket. Brayshaw has him covered in the middle anyway. 

36 minutes ago, Glorious Day said:

Not sure why we made his actual injury public, because he'll only be targeted if he now plays.. Dr Peter Larkins said in today's paper many players have played with this injury before and not been targeted because nobody knew about it.

Yeah the idea of Zorko or Mitch Robinson targeting Trac’s injury on Friday is a horrifying and not in any way unrealistic one. 

We need Trac healthy for the next several years, and resting him this week is a no-brainer as far as I can see. 

If Trac is genuinely crucial in order to beat the Lions, then that should tell you we don’t have what it takes to beat the remaining teams. 

Edited September 4, 20223 yr by Mel Bourne

42 minutes ago, Glorious Day said:

Not sure why we made his actual injury public, because he'll only be targeted if he now plays.. Dr Peter Larkins said in today's paper many players have played with this injury before and not been targeted because nobody knew about it.

Probably because large swathes of our membership, and Demonland, would have lost it if we'd hidden it until after the finals.

Imagine: he plays, we lose, he's off, we later find out about the injury. Demonland would go off its collective rocker at the club treating us like nobodies.

2 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

Probably because large swathes of our membership, and Demonland, would have lost it if we'd hidden it until after the finals.

Imagine: he plays, we lose, he's off, we later find out about the injury. Demonland would go off its collective rocker at the club treating us like nobodies.

Seriously? Highly doubt any of this. We hid May’s injury going into the GF last year. The full extent of the injury wasn’t revealed until after the GF. The place was not going to implode if we lost the GF as a result of this. It totally worked to our advantage. The club wants to maximise chances of winning, not being open and frank in weekly communication with members and Demonland followers to ultimately, potentially, inhibit the team’s performance by putting the opposition on notice.

6 hours ago, Mel Bourne said:

Yeah the idea of Zorko or Mitch Robinson targeting Trac’s injury on Friday is a horrifying and not in any way unrealistic one. 

We need Trac healthy for the next several years, and resting him this week is a no-brainer as far as I can see. 

If Trac is genuinely crucial in order to beat the Lions, then that should tell you we don’t have what it takes to beat the remaining teams. 

This is sound and rational. Trac already has put in an enormous season for us; injury of some/any description is reason to not play him against Brisbane, allowing for an extra week or so for significant recovery. It will break Trac's heart, it is disappointing for the fans; it transfers much of the responsibility for Trac's contributions to several 'cruisers' in the team (including thoughtful football) and is an important, highly motivating reason why the whole team should lift. Brizzy have players returning so our effort needs to be 100% across four quarters of team football. Should we win the game then Trac is ready for the next battle. If we lose the game, Trac is ready for the next season with less compromise across the board. We have the talent to win the game and the necessary personnel - stand up, Dees. I feel the same way about playing TMac and to a certain extent, Salem. 

Simple, Unless he is 100% fit he misses. On that basis he shouldn't and wont play! Stuff this "Up to the player"bulltish, this is a serious injury with the potential to become more serious!

Edited September 4, 20223 yr by picket fence

It's just so frustrating. I mean no disrespect but if this was Neal Bullen or sparrow they'd be out no question & easily replaceable.

Can we just sit him forward to do something 

40 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Simple, Unless he is 100% fit he misses. On that basis he shouldn't and wont play! Stuff this "Up to the player"bulltish, this is a serious injury with the potential to become more serious!

You do realise no player is 100% this time of year?

Personally I think there’s more of a risk in playing him. Obviously to the player himself as he WILL be targeted. But more to the point the risk of keeping up the facade that everything is fine. We’re in a sudden death final and arguably our best player is down… it’s now or never.  I’d be bringing in an in form Dunstan and, as part of that, try to get the whole team to share the load and lift a notch. This isn’t business as usual anymore and now everyone has to do more. 

Murphy, the doggies captain at the time, went down on the eve of the finals and they won the flag. The whole team responded to that and we need the same ..not playing an injured trac who can barely run and can’t kick straight . 

Agree with everyone here he shouldn’t be playing this week…need to find a way to get it done without him

Please rest Trac this week. 

Would much rather a bloke like Dunstan going at 100% (after a week off) and crashing in hard than Trac hobbling around trying to play as best he can.

We need to have a team full of players that are ready to play at finals intensity and if they aren't it's not worth the risk.

For mine, Petracca plays:

• While in the midfield Oliver is less likely to be tagged.
• We need Harmes or Brayshaw to mind Neale
• Even parked in the goal square he is dangerous as his many snaps out of pack goals show. 
• He is unselfish around goal and if he can't kick he will hand ball.
• Petracca will attract a midfielder or a defender when forward.

Not playing him just makes Brisbane's life easier.

I just can't see any player we bring in being better overall value than Petracca.  

32 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

For mine, Petracca plays:

• While in the midfield Oliver is less likely to be tagged.
• We need Harmes or Brayshaw to mind Neale
• Even parked in the goal square he is dangerous as his many snaps out of pack goals show. 
• He is unselfish around goal and if he can't kick he will hand ball.
• Petracca will attract a midfielder or a defender when forward.

Not playing him just makes Brisbane's life easier.

I just can't see any player we bring in being better overall value than Petracca.  

I have a feeling you might get you wish. 

But I maintain the position that if we need to play somebody with a hairline fracture just so we can beat the Lions, then our season is over anyway. 

Love trac but... why didn't they sub him out on the weekend.  We was clearly playing hampered.

Trac if he plays I reckon plays deep forward, push BBB to CHF, drop Nibbler/Melksham and add Dunstan to the midfield. Harmes to tag Neale and waltz our way to a win.

4 hours ago, picket fence said:

Simple, Unless he is 100% fit he misses. On that basis he shouldn't and wont play! Stuff this "Up to the player"bulltish, this is a serious injury with the potential to become more serious!

I think you are right.

The problem could be that it's not really going to get better in one week,  but still, 2 weeks off playing and training is better than playing and risking a disaster with a likely restricted performance anyway.

Agree that he shouldnt be risked. If he is out there hobbling around having no impact then we get to a prelim what happens then??

16 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Agree that he shouldnt be risked. If he is out there hobbling around having no impact then we get to a prelim what happens then??

Only problem is that if he shouldn’t play this week with a hairline fracture, he really shouldn’t play for the next month