I'd be really disappointed if we lost and missed top 4.

I rate Brisbane but no way are they better than us. 

Our DNA is top 4. Something doesn't sit right about us finishing 5th or 6th.

Bring It On

 

cant wait for this one. [censored] uneducated fans who think the sun shines out of Charlies fake motorbike.

time shut them, the stupid commentators who fawn of the Brisbane ‘stars’ that haven’t won anything and their miserable fans up

Back to being ruthless this week

 

Sneaky suspicion the Saints will have a very Saints-like win over the Swans…..just to give their supporters cruel hope for next season. They’re better when there’s nothing to lose. 

3 hours ago, Gorgoroth said:

I hope we win, cos not finishing top 4 after 10-0 is poor.

No matter what happens from. Here they must review the hell out of the “loading” period and make sure this [censored] is never repeated. 
Im hoping for some shake up at selection and a real edge, anything less and we get belted. We go in with a tough ferocious attitude and kick semi straight we win.

So if we win the premiership again, like we did last year with a loading period, would you say we won in spite of loading or because we loaded mid season?

We need to beat the Lions by at last 15 more points than the swans beat the saints to finish second

hopefully The Saints play one of their on games

36 minutes ago, Kent said:

How much do we need to win by to get past Sydney?? 

Eyeballing it; looks like we'd need to win by just two or three goals more than Sydney does, assuming Sydney win.

Hmm, just making a mental note of everything to check on the weekend.

If Melbourne win, our final position is either 2nd or 3rd, depending on percentage with Sydney (or Sydney losing)

If Melbourne lose, we stay in the top 4 provided one of these two things happen:

Collingwood lose to Carlton.

Sydney lose to St Kilda by a margin that drops their percentage below ours. (Our losing margin, plus two or three goals)

 

 

 

 

 

3 hours ago, Gorgoroth said:

I hope we win, cos not finishing top 4 after 10-0 is poor.

No matter what happens from. Here they must review the hell out of the “loading” period and make sure this [censored] is never repeated. 
Im hoping for some shake up at selection and a real edge, anything less and we get belted. We go in with a tough ferocious attitude and kick semi straight we win.

Wrong thread. You’re looking for the “We’re finishing OUT of the top four” thread. 
… or the “Veil of Negativity” thread. 

Edited August 17, 20222 yr by WalkingCivilWar

3 hours ago, Gorgoroth said:

I hope we win, cos not finishing top 4 after 10-0 is poor.

No matter what happens from. Here they must review the hell out of the “loading” period and make sure this [censored] is never repeated. 
Im hoping for some shake up at selection and a real edge, anything less and we get belted. We go in with a tough ferocious attitude and kick semi straight we win.

Yeah winning flags sucks. I couldnt stand the way we ran over the best teams in the league last year when finals came along.

30 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

Eyeballing it; looks like we'd need to win by just two or three goals more than Sydney does, assuming Sydney win.

Hmm, just making a mental note of everything to check on the weekend.

If Melbourne win, our final position is either 2nd or 3rd, depending on percentage with Sydney (or Sydney losing)

If Melbourne lose, we stay in the top 4 provided one of these two things happen:

Collingwood lose to Carlton.

Sydney lose to St Kilda by a margin that drops their percentage below ours. (Our losing margin, plus two or three goals)

 

 

 

 

 

Aren't you forgetting Freo? If they win they are on 62 so we'd need both of those things to happen if we lose.  Or am I confused?

8 minutes ago, sue said:

Aren't you forgetting Freo? If they win they are on 62 so we'd need both of those things to happen if we lose.  Or am I confused?

Sort of.

We still make top 4 but only if our losing % drop is less than the Swans. And we overtake them on % at 60 points each.

 

Only a couple of goals either way will be enough for this.

 

1 hour ago, Little Goffy said:

Eyeballing it; looks like we'd need to win by just two or three goals more than Sydney does, assuming Sydney win.

Hmm, just making a mental note of everything to check on the weekend.

If Melbourne win, our final position is either 2nd or 3rd, depending on percentage with Sydney (or Sydney losing)

If Melbourne lose, we stay in the top 4 provided one of these two things happen:

Collingwood lose to Carlton.

Sydney lose to St Kilda by a margin that drops their percentage below ours. (Our losing margin, plus two or three goals)

Thanks  LG very clear

Going to be an interesting and nail biting weekend 

We just have to win on Friday night!! 

Go Dees

 

 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Kent said:

How much do we need to win by to get past Sydney?? 

Impossible to calculate as they play after our game. We need to win by as many goals as possible. Swans likely to beat saints. percentage ? anyones guess.

for me, top 4 at the start of the season was the minimum 'success' requirement

for me, top 4 at the end of the season remains the minimum 'success' requirement

if we drop out of the top 4 at the end of the home and away season it'll be a disappointment, but the end of the season is the priority, not the end of the home and away

@Gorgoroth

Melbourne's Beltings In 2022.

Fremantle - 38 points

Geelong - 28 points

Collingwood  - 26 points

Sydney - 11points

Western Bulldogs - 10 points

Collingwood - 7 points

 

 

Edited August 18, 20222 yr by Engorged Onion

29 minutes ago, Demon17 said:

Sort of.

We still make top 4 but only if our losing % drop is less than the Swans. And we overtake them on % at 60 points each.

 

Only a couple of goals either way will be enough for this.

 

Still confused - excuse my aging brain.  If we lose we stay on 60 points. If Freo win and Bris win the ladder is:

Geelong 68+
Bris.       64
Fre.        62

If C'wood win they are 64 and we are not in top 4.
If Syd win they are 64 and we are not in top 4.

So we need both of those 2 to lose if we lose regardless of percentage. No?

If only we beat Footscray (2nd game) or the Pies we could have afforded to lose tomorrow and still make top 4 with percentage 😩.

Edited August 18, 20222 yr by OhMyDees

8 minutes ago, sue said:

Still confused - excuse my aging brain.  If we lose we stay on 60 points. If Freo win and Bris win the ladder is:

Geelong 68+
Bris.       64
Fre.        62

If C'wood win they are 64 and we are not in top 4.
If Syd win they are 64 and we are not in top 4.

So we need both of those 2 to lose if we lose regardless of percentage. No?

Yes, you’re right.

2 hours ago, Clintosaurus said:

Well they had Hocking doing their work and now Brad Scott does it. Be nice to have that level of influence. Similar to what Eddie had over the fixture.

Still hasn't helped them win a flag.

Not sure how much it helps their finals preparation to play bottom of the ladder sides. 

2 hours ago, Webber said:

Sneaky suspicion the Saints will have a very Saints-like win over the Swans…..just to give their supporters cruel hope for next season. They’re better when there’s nothing to lose. 

Agreed and there is big pressure on them after their pathetic loss last week.

I think they will give the Swans a decent nudge at Marvel. 

33 minutes ago, sue said:

Still confused - excuse my aging brain.  If we lose we stay on 60 points. If Freo win and Bris win the ladder is:

Geelong 68+
Bris.       64
Fre.        62

If C'wood win they are 64 and we are not in top 4.
If Syd win they are 64 and we are not in top 4.

So we need both of those 2 to lose if we lose regardless of percentage. No?

Or if Freo and Pies both lose we are top 4 even if swans win and we lose. Play the Cats week one

2 hours ago, Webber said:

Sneaky suspicion the Saints will have a very Saints-like win over the Swans…..just to give their supporters cruel hope for next season. They’re better when there’s nothing to lose. 

Swans have been beaten twice this year at Marvel against the Dogs and bombers (both poor performances). Weren't very convincing in their one win which was against North. Not a happy hunting ground for them. If Max King can find his shooting boots the Saints are a good chance

15 hours ago, homsar said:

We're not losing to Brisbane. 

Thank you. 

1 hour ago, OhMyDees said:

If only we beat Footscray (2nd game) or the Pies we could have afforded to lose tomorrow and still make top 4 with percentage 😩.

And if your Aunty had wheels, she'd be a bicycle.   It is what it is.  Let's just beat Brisbane and go from there.

If we lose then we'll need both Freo and pies to lose or swans ..we need 2 out of three games to go our way. With our luck not likely.

Just get the job done against lions but would be nice if the Aints have one of those rare moments and win putting us 2nd. Tall order but possible.

Edited August 18, 20222 yr by deebunked

If we do win on Friday night,  the Sydney V St Kilda game is going to remind me of the round 23 Sunday twilight game of 2017 - West Coast V Adelaide. Fox Footy will be putting the live ladder after each goal and we'll be celebrating or commiserating after each goal.

In reality, we're probably finishing 3rd and heading up to Sydney assuming we win. We'd have to win by about 12-15  more points than Sydney.

Here is a possible scenario that would get us to second:

Melbourne 100 - Brisbane 76

Sydney 90 - St Kilda 78

Melbourne - 127.9%

Sydney 127.7%