POSTGAME: Rd 21 vs Collingwood

[Adam The God 30,261]

Kick straight and we win comfortably by 5 or so goals.

We always threatened to lose games last year with poor goalkicking. That was my one concern heading into last year's finals series. The Bulldogs round 20 game in particular, but you could argue this year poor goalkicking has cost us against Sydney, Bulldogs and now Collingwood. The most glaringly obvious was tonight's game though. 

Collingwood played out of their skins. Their pressure was elite and we let them transition too easily at times.

But we shouldn't be losing that game. It's fixable if it doesn't become mental.

Really poor result though obviously and now we could well miss the top 4.

[Mincho Mania 530]

10 minutes ago, wizardinoz said:

No should have played JVR tonight & dropped the momentum killer in ANB.

No, didn't mean play him tonight but if he gets a couple of weeks in the forward system could be some X factor for finals

[Deemania since 56 6,650]

3 minutes ago, bluey said:

Gone is to far up himself, missed three from twenty metres out, non quirky captain required! Yep 

He's a great Captain. He's got to work harder on his shots at goal - particularly the high drop and the swing foot. Jackson could have done more around the ground, particularly pick-ups, not taps into further troubles.

[Boots and all 1,000]

15 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

One trick pony got the job done.

We knew exactly what they’d try to do and we let them do it. We’re a defensive team who can’t win a shootout, yet we let the game unfold that way anyway.

This was a supremely disappointing effort from the coaching group. They’ve got work to do now as top two is likely gone. 

[censored] what a let down.

Yeah, well what are we Lingers!! Same old play going forward, same old kick into the pocket, predictable, no plan B.

[dazzledavey36 54,948]

Leaders went missing once again when the heat was turned up.

Only one who genuinely tried to will us back in the game was Oliver.

 

[titan_uranus 25,020]

1 minute ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

How do you have 93 more possessions but lose a game of footy?

Pies are unfortunately the real deal and a few have been late to the party to acknowledge this.

I’d be surprised if they don’t play in this year’s GF.

It's all going to come crashing down for them. The only question is whether that happens before the flag is won this year, or after.

There's nothing sustainable about what they're doing, it's all crazy high confidence and emotion. The game was on our terms in the first half. Much of the reason we weren't further in front by half time was our own doing, not theirs. That opens the door for a confident team riding on a huge crowd and feeding off all that emotion to get a head of steam, all of which is credit to them, but if we had had a lead at half time which reflected our first half dominance (17 points did not reflect it), they would have had a much harder task ahead of them.

Fully expect them to regress significantly in 2023 as history tells us the odds of them getting this sort of run of luck is 0% (look at Port, great record in close games last year, can't buy a win in them this year). But it won't matter if they ride this out for six more weeks and get the flag in the process.

[Dockett 32 1,239]

Conversion rate poor. Forward structure just lacks danger and devil.

Too many players without enough tricks and class  to be considered top end.

 

[BDA 22,755]

Thoroughly Sickened

best team won. They took the game on. Played with dash and dare

we were down with 2 mins left. From the kickout kicked to the wing and went nowhere. Pies would have attacked straight through the middle. 

And they’re fitter. Ran out the game much better 

We’re not as good as I thought we were

no flag playing like that this year 

Edited August 5, 2022 by BDA

[dl4e 5,851]

We were the better side on the night.  I think the difference is quite simple. They kick goals out of their [censored] and we can't kick straight to save ourselves.

[dees189227 12,394]

Is anyone going to call out gawn and his attracious kicking? I know we all love max but he is our captain and he is letting us down in front of goal.

I know what he did last year but he is costing us in front of goal and at the wrong times. 

It's getting frustrating

[Docs Demons 1,791]

3 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Bit harsh on Salem, Gawn missed an easier one, not to mention 3 goals given away by over hand balling inside our forward 50.

Coaches need to sit Kozzie down and show him 

2 x toe pokes inside forward 50 when you just need to put your head over the footy

1 x token arm thrown in at a ground ball contest inside forward 50 missing everything and allowing an easy clearance as opposed to licking it in

Goes for a mark inside 50 in the fourth but puts only one hand up and doesn’t bring ball to ground, Quaynor mops up out the back

Again contested ball on the southern wing late in the game just a hand put in, no ball or body, Pies go inside 50 and take the lead back. That was not long after the 1 arm marking contest

Those are instances which cost you in a game - simple rule ball or body. 
 

Last year he’s hungry and takes ball or body, needs to do better

Also with Kozzie he needs to be told he is a small forward with some pace and X factor and to NOT sit at back of packs looking for the easy one. He and Spargo need to be at bottom front of packs. Did not see them at all front and centre.

[monoccular 17,432]

Game plan: kick it long to a contest in the left pocket even when we are being repeatedly outmarked.  Wow. What could possibly go wrong. 
Seriously we will be very lucky to finish top 4 and the dreaM of back  to back looks just that, a dream. 
Desperately need to find a strong marking tall forward and the whole forward line needs to learn to convert their chances.  Had we done so we would have had a barely deserved win tonight. 

[BDA 22,755]

And our problems start in the forward 50. We don’t lock the ball in anymore 

[Queanbeyan Demon 6,852]

Clueless . . . and I'm not talking about the coach or players.

[Mr Steve 3,820]

Last point, as much as it hurt would have hurt a lot more if it been a final. They won't get us next time.

[gOLLy 401]

Kozzie goes missing in big games

[dees189227 12,394]

Just now, Docs Demons said:

Also with Kozzie he needs to be told he is a small forward with some pace and X factor and to NOT sit at back of packs looking for the easy one. He and Spargo need to be at bottom front of packs. Did not see them at all front and centre.

Yep towards the end kozzie was waiting for the easy handball out the back then putting pressure on.

[dees189227 12,394]

1 minute ago, Mr Steve said:

Last point, as much as it hurt would have hurt a lot more if it been a final. They won't get us next time.

Why not? They have it over us. 

[Maldonboy38 6,403]

I am struggling to think because the fog of rage will not disperse.

Our game plan has been figured out. When beaten this year it is in the same style - fast with accurate kicking. 

I'm not sure what we can do about our forward play. BBB is taking some marks (and dropping lots) and presenting well but we have no aerial authority at all. 

Our midfield got trounced in the 2nd half. How is that possible with our personnel?

How many marks did they take inside 50.

We only lost by a goal, feels like a 5 goal loss.

and that habit of receiving the ball, stopping, turning around to fend of the tackler (the Pies tackled in pairs tonight) then handballing blind is so rage-inducing. Hate it. Hate it. Hate it.

[Undeeterred 3,124]

Absolutely spewing 

[Mr Steve 3,820]

1 minute ago, dees189227 said:

Is anyone going to call out gawn and his attracious kicking? I know we all love max but he is our captain and he is letting us down in front of goal.

I know what he did last year but he is costing us in front of goal and at the wrong times. 

It's getting frustrating

I think it was the one when he marked on 50, his fav spot. Time for a Captains goal and he went the short pass into the pocket.

[Deecisive 1,709]

11 minutes ago, Mr Steve said:

No one seems to stay down when the ball goes forward.  That said play the game again and you will get a different result.

Agreed, the ball went over the back of the pack to 2 or 3 collingwood players, all of our players were either going for the mark or sitting in front watching the pies run away with it. We need to do something about how clubs switch on us. All night long they switched down the same wing and we failed to cover giving them easy access to their forward 50. we need to work on how we lock down so that we dont allow that easy switch.

[ElDiablo14 4,999]

12 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Enough with your obsession about blaming umps, so tiresome Clint. 

He is not completely wrong.

The umpires kept them in the game in the first half, granted our goal kicking deficiency too.

There was also a goal that came from Ginivan dropping the ball, what the F**K is that?!

[Deemania since 56 6,650]

11 minutes ago, gOLLy said:

Possibly out coached?

You betcha.

[Travy14 1,917]

Was a repeat of the Dogs game, we played well but defensively [censored] house.

To much hand-balling across the HF line, when we should be getting it to Brown advantage and let our smalls go to work.

ANB has been ave of recent times and I've been an advocate of his at times, but he took the tackle on way to many times today and in moments when we were surging fwd and he just needed to keep the ball moving fwd.  He wasn't alone but he stood out the most.

we just didn't have the match ups for their fwd line.  De goey was given way to much space at stoppages fwd of center, where they look to tap it to him every time when they are in scoring areas

Like the dogs loss, its one with a lot of positives in it. and maybe it is just a change in our game plan for Collingwood not necessarily a change all together.  a lot of other teams we would have blown them away enough to cruise after 3/4 time