POSTGAME: Rd 21 vs Collingwood

[Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,267]

1 minute ago, jnrmac said:

How about the tunnel ball throw!!!

Right in front of us... Flat out throw

Umpire Findlay put whistle to mouth but decided not to blow... ffs 

Blatant 

[layzie 28,514]

4 minutes ago, KingDingAling said:

I think they are peaking too early.

That would have been a fair thing to say 5 weeks ago. We're coming to the pointy end now and top 2 is in their sights. They're as good a chance as any.

[Fork 'em 6,507]

28 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

 ignore guys running free on the inside.

This also does my head in.
Blokes open running through the middle of the ground but no, ignore them and go down the line to congestion.
Cause, you know .... Defensive option even when attacking.

 

Edited August 5, 2022 by Fork 'em

[spirit of norm smith 12,839]

 

 

3rd qtr 

missed chances 🤮Kozzzzz

ANB horrible turnover!!! 🤮

May - how long  you stupid &$&$$💩

overhandballing !!!!!! Overhandballing!!!!!!💩

kick the goal ffs  🤡🤡

Brown is soft as soft as soft as 💩

Spargo-yes ✅✅

Trac kick to pocket rather than goal 🤡🤡

Last qtr: 

NO FWD CRUMBING- kozzzzzzy stay down at back or front 

Kozzy running away from the footy 💩💩💩

Brown is soft all night🤮

Fritsch fumbles costly 🤮

Viney ffs that was stupid umps 🤡elliott goal 

petty push was stupid 🤡 Johnson goal 

brown handballs back into pack 🤡  then ball up then Sidebottom kick to Johnson Pies goal 
 

Goodwin you self obsessed fugazzi … they do a slingshot and we had no one watching the middle

Goodwin- who asked them to be overhandballing all night all night 

dees - 200 kicks 210 handballs 

pies - 200 kicks 105 handballs 

missed chances - had 6 or 7 easy goals missed up to 1/2 time  - Gawns goalkicking!! Salem miss … then laughing (ffs)  . Fritsch !! Trac too nervous to kick a goal  

Edited August 5, 2022 by spirit of norm smith
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[dees189227 10,701]

4 minutes ago, DemonBlack said:

Im sick of the bombs in the front half, no one ever marks it except Max gawn!!

Who then misses

[dee-tox 4,772]

Pies are a good team. Fit, good system 22 contributors.

But we should have been six goals up at half time when we had the opportunities. We hardly fired a shot after half time but a decent buffer could have been insurmountable.

First halves of Langdon, Brayshaw, Salem were great but we need more.

Eight goals from Johnson and Elliot really hurt. 

[Lil_red_fire_engine 10,132]

They had 10 of the top 15 pressure players. We spent too much time handballing in circles. We did not take our chances in the second and just left them hanging in the game until they outworked us. 

[Boots and all 894]

8 minutes ago, Deecisive said:

Agreed, the ball went over the back of the pack to 2 or 3 collingwood players, all of our players were either going for the mark or sitting in front watching the pies run away with it. We need to do something about how clubs switch on us. All night long they switched down the same wing and we failed to cover giving them easy access to their forward 50. we need to work on how we lock down so that we dont allow that easy switch.

Yeah, why do our forwards end up under the ball so much and the other team mops up out back...[censored], still fuming about this.

[Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,267]

Petty.... 🤦‍♂️

[Swooper1987 2,725]

They are a good team.  Since 2018 they have gone second, third, sixth, 17th and currently back to second.  Last year was the outlier for them.  We played well enough to beat most teams tonight, but unfortunately not them.  Our defence was poor - possibly bar Salem every defender was beaten.  The lack of intercept marks from May and Lever inside defensive 50 was critical.  They probably got the rub of the green with the holding the ball decisions tonight, but their tackles stick, ours don't.  Jackson played too many minutes in the ruck and that cost us around the ground - being outmarked by Cox resulting in a goal, not competing strongly enough at a boundary throw in where Cameron got it down to De Goey for a snap goal.  Some relatively straightforward misses - Gawn and Salem amongst others.  When the pressure really came in the second half we went handball silly.  Yet I still think we can beat them and do it easily if we get to play them again.

[BAMF 3,783]

Either we don't lock it in the forward line anymore, or we have been figured out a bit.

Games like this make those small forwards like Spargo and Nibbler nearly redundant.

People thinking Tom McDonald is the sole missing thing are dreaming. Tmac didn't exactly play that well for the previous 8 months before being injured. While we are missing what he brings, we should be getting more from our forwards.

Fritsch is Fritsch. Everyone elses spot is up for grabs next year in the forward line in my opinion.

[Boots and all 894]

1 minute ago, dee-tox said:

Pies are a good team. Fit, good system 22 contributors.

But we should have been six goals up at half time when we had the opportunities. We hardly fired a shot after half time but a decent buffer could have been insurmountable.

First halves of Langdon, Brayshaw, Salem were great but we need more.

Eight goals from Johnson and Elliot really hurt. 

Early in the third we were all over them but didn't impact the scoreboard, they scored and that was it...the game changed from there.

[Fork 'em 6,507]

1 minute ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Right in front of us... Flat out throw

Umpire Findlay put whistle to mouth but decided not to blow... ffs 

Blatant 

Yeah, blatant throw.
But the umpiring is so bad these days I don't even get annoyed anymore.
Just part of the game these days.

All swings and roundabouts.
Win some, lose some yadda, yadda, yadda .....

[ANG13 1,421]

I am sitting here thinking we should have won that but at the same time going our forward line is was a mess, just about everyone in the backline were poor and all bar Oliver went missing in the midfield after halftime. 
 

Collingwood are playing bloody good football and are one of the two teams I don’t feel confident about beating, Sydney being the other. 

[demon3165 1,908]

15 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

He's a great Captain. He's got to work harder on his shots at goal - particularly the high drop and the swing foot. Jackson could have done more around the ground, particularly pick-ups, not taps into further troubles.

No he has back to his old ways, he started kicking straight over the mark for those 30mtr goals, now he is back to kicking on an arc again, which will bring you kicking action out to in that's the problem, track does it as well.

[Deecisive 1,651]

What i would like to see is our forwards actually work together when someone is kicking the ball into the forward 50 we have 3 or 4 players who can mark who all should be leading in different directions instead of all standing still. other players should be helping to run interference or clear areas so that our forwards have space to run into, or they drag their players away from the contest to give our forwards a better chance of marking. instead we kick it deep into a forward pocket, i still dont understand why you dont go to the front of the goal square or have players leading up. need to work together to give the kicker options to go to.  We have a massive number of inside 50's but our crumbing forwards did bugger all, one goal was the best we got out of any of them, which is not great considering the number chances they had.

[Sydney_Demon 1,175]

19 minutes ago, adonski said:

OUT: Goodwin

Is this the right thread?

Ridiculous. It wasn't Goody's fault the players couldn't kick straight to save themselves and Collingwood couldn't miss.

15 minutes ago, layzie said:

Premiership is firmly on Collingwood's sights now. Top 2 very much on the agenda, pretend all you want. This is happening 

Let's not get carried away. Melbourne should've been 8 goals in front at half-time and the game would have been over. Colingwood won by 7 points despite losing every category except the final score and the umpiring. They played brilliantly in the 2nd half but it should've been too late by then.

12 minutes ago, D4Life said:

Should have been six in front at half time

Hard for Demons to get a free second half

Pies probably got 6 or 7 goals from frees

the last to Johnson unbelievably soft

Agree. When it mattered all the decisions went Collingwood's way. Petracca gets a holding the ball decision when he handpassed it. A Collingwwood players lies all over the ball and gets a minute to tap it out. I don't want to blame the umpires for the loss but in a close game it matters.

10 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Lingers, next time say nothing 

In retrospect it wasn't wise. But it was ridiculous at the start of the game Collingwood try to drive his head into the ground and then 4 players  come in to join the tackle after Lingers had been brought to the ground. Naturally the umpire calls for a ball-up.

8 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

Getting overrun something shocking

Well, it was 4 goals to 2 in the last. With a bit of luck we could have won.  Let's be honest here. Collingwood have won 11 in a row and with just ordinary luck for each team it would be at best 8-3.

6 minutes ago, DemonWA said:

That one stung. 

Pies made the most of their chances. Felt like a final and we came up short.  Few players looking tired and sore. 

We don't quite have the spark we had last year but we'll be around the mark. 

All of the part time supporters throwing the toys out of the cot and saying their over the team can gtfo. 

Buckle up. Get behind the boys. 

Well said DemonWA. We won the Inside 50s 65-41 plus nearly every stat apart from the only one that counts. It's frustrating to lose an unlosable game but to all the posters who have decided to vent their spleen just get over yourselves. Collingwood played as well as they possibly could, beat us by 7 points, and Melbourne should have won by 6 goals. It wasn't a disgraceful effort by the Dees. We lost by a narrow margin to a hard-tackling, attacking & extremely lucky opponent.

[D4Life 2,299]

10 minutes ago, BAMF said:

Unfortunately all of Elliotts free kicks were there in my opinion

 it was infuriating as we probably should have had a free kick moments before the first one where he pinged Hibberd.

Viney needed to put that on the boot as soon as he got it. He had a tiny moment and might have been a little bit stiff but those get paid all the time 

 

Yep and the one he got in the 2nd came after Collingwood did fend off got caught in goalsquare, should have been holding the ball.

instead ball up and Elliot got free - goal!

[demon3165 1,908]

Just now, Deecisive said:

What i would like to see is our forwards actually work together when someone is kicking the ball into the forward 50 we have 3 or 4 players who can mark who all should be leading in different directions instead of all standing still. other players should be helping to run interference or clear areas so that our forwards have space to run into, or they drag their players away from the contest to give our forwards a better chance of marking. instead we kick it deep into a forward pocket, i still dont understand why you dont go to the front of the goal square or have players leading up. need to work together to give the kicker options to go to.  We have a massive number of inside 50's but our crumbing forwards did bugger all, one goal was the best we got out of any of them, which is not great considering the number chances they had.

That's the game style that they played last year, we have been worked out by the opposition, they don't even bother to look inside first thought pockets.

[The heart beats true 16,020]

I hate their supporters. People on the train home watching the replay loudly and trying to antagonise and start fights. 

[BAMF 3,783]

9 minutes ago, Docs Demons said:

Felt sorry for Viney there. Hibberd just didn't want the pill and hand balled it to him from about 2 feet away. In other words he [censored] himself and just wanted someone else to take the heat.

Yep. Viney had to play the game though and slam it on the boot. It would have been a wild kick and probably would have landed in a Collingwood players lap.

It was more Hibberds free kick than anyone else's.

Viney maybe a bit stiff though. There are a few like that each way every game though.

[dees189227 10,701]

AFL website has trac and Oliver as our best. No way they may have got the ball plenty of times but did not use it effectively

[Diamond_Jim 11,678]

2 minutes ago, Deecisive said:

What i would like to see is our forwards actually work together when someone is kicking the ball into the forward 50 we have 3 or 4 players who can mark who all should be leading in different directions instead of all standing still. other players should be helping to run interference or clear areas so that our forwards have space to run into, or they drag their players away from the contest to give our forwards a better chance of marking. instead we kick it deep into a forward pocket, i still dont understand why you dont go to the front of the goal square or have players leading up. need to work together to give the kicker options to go to.  We have a massive number of inside 50's but our crumbing forwards did bugger all, one goal was the best we got out of any of them, which is not great considering the number chances they had.

Think

we only play from the defensive pocket

Ask the coach

[layzie 28,514]

7 minutes ago, Return to Glory said:

Good thing this isn't a forum

Nice little jokette there buster!

If you want to rebut then fine I'll discuss. Let's see if you can bring something to the table other than a drive by.

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 5,789]

Missed opportunities inside 50, so many entries wasteful entries, almost doubled there clearances, Filth tackled well and took all there opportunities.

65 forward 50 entries to 41 there conversion rate was insane.

Should not be losing games of footy with these statistics.

Our own worst enemies.