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  On 09/06/2022 at 00:30, Ham said:

I would love an even harder stance (like NBA coaches) and just refuse to answer questions in regard to it, citing that both Max & Richardson have spoken on the topic and for him to only answer questions regarding to Monday's game and Daniher/MND.

AFL Players & Coaches are forced far too much to straight bat back to media reporters. They should just refuse to answer questions. In some instances in the NBA, certain players don't answer ANY questions from certain media reporters that they either don't like or feel they have an agenda, same with coaches as well.

In many cases you are right.

This has gone so far to the distortion of circumstances to create headlines that refusal to answer would trigger a new round of 'what are dees hiding' 

It would be a hiding to nowhere.

 

This should be the last straw for any supporters here to ever think that the Media thinks of anyone except themselves.They are scum and feed off Clubs as how and who it suits. When a footy Club runs direct competition successfully against the Media, well...

I would ban the media after this game win or lose. In fact close the shop up as much as possible for rest of home season.

Pretty human Club that we follow boys and girls..

  On 09/06/2022 at 00:31, Pates said:

 

My opinion of Melksham has actually increased since this since he was the one sticking up for his teammate and questioning a leader for drinking whilst in recovery from a concussion. 

....and then punching a bloke with concussion in the face?!

 

I'll say it again, the silence from Melksham is deafening. He has the power to come out and explain what happened and what was said. We haven't heard a thing from him. If he reckons it is all done and dusted, as May does, why wouldn't he come out and back the club's decision and clarify his involvement. 

  On 09/06/2022 at 01:25, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

I'll say it again, the silence from Melksham is deafening. He has the power to come out and explain what happened and what was said. We haven't heard a thing from him. If he reckons it is all done and dusted, as May does, why wouldn't he come out and back the club's decision and clarify his involvement. 

He doesn’t have to do jack. Clearly the Club think so to, hence the “deafening silence.” How about trusting the Club’s decisions and handling of this situation?!


  On 09/06/2022 at 01:43, Demonstone said:

I reckon we've got this week's winner of the Mixed Metaphor Medal.  :D

I was waiting for someone to spot that - should have guessed it would be your good self!!

  On 08/06/2022 at 13:11, The heart beats true said:

If we all stop giving it any thought it stops having any power. It happened. Move on. 

Remember when Spargo and Pickett got suspended for taking an Uber during Covid, or when Oliver got caught drunk driving, or when TMac said vaccines shouldn’t be mandatory? I don’t really either - as I had to google all those stories to fact check.

None of these things matter if the team plays well together. Take a deep breath, picture Gawn holding the cup, and let it blow over. The footy media is just bored as we are in the bye weeks. Don’t get sucked in.

Unless it's a different time, my recollection is that Oliver was under 0.05% but because he was on his P-plates he needed to be zero. So, not drunk driving at all.  

But the essence of you point is spot on.

 
  On 08/06/2022 at 21:49, Demon Dynasty said:

On that basis we are on track and nothing to see here RP yes?

Well, I don’t know what you’re talking about?

Everything is fine in the land of No Apologies! No one is upset or sorry for anything! 

What a magical place this is… there are fights everywhere, everyone is calling each other terrible epithets and calling into question their value both verbally and digitally. But no one should be upset according to my warped reality so no one IS upset… (birds fluttering, organ playing 🎵)

  On 08/06/2022 at 23:54, DeeZee said:

Whately won’t leave this alone , he is like a dog with a bone.

Wants an official AFL enquiry.

More like a toothless dog without a bone!


  On 09/06/2022 at 00:41, Ham said:

So your opinion of someone increases when they enact violence? 

My opinion of someone increases when they stick up for a teammate, and when one of the “leaders” is in fact acting like a complete tool. Melksham’s decision to use violence is something I don’t condone, but his actions behind it are far better than the actions of May. 

  On 09/06/2022 at 01:50, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Unless it's a different time, my recollection is that Oliver was under 0.05% but because he was on his P-plates he needed to be zero. So, not drunk driving at all.  

But the essence of you point is spot on.

See! I’ve forgotten that detail too! 🤣👍

  On 09/06/2022 at 01:25, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

I'll say it again, the silence from Melksham is deafening. He has the power to come out and explain what happened and what was said. We haven't heard a thing from him. If he reckons it is all done and dusted, as May does, why wouldn't he come out and back the club's decision and clarify his involvement. 

There's a reason why Melksham is in the clear. 

I was listening to Radio National ABC this morning. Jack Snape and Patricia Karvelas taking about Melbournes wows this week. Not only did they get the story completely wrong they added the Simon Goodwin has lost all the players . At best the story they ran was total B/S at worse it was slanderous.  Jack Snape is their Sports Reporter. 


  On 09/06/2022 at 02:42, Pates said:

Melksham’s decision to use violence is something I don’t condone, but his actions behind it are far better than the actions of May. 

Completely disagree, violence is never the answer. 

  On 09/06/2022 at 01:25, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

I'll say it again, the silence from Melksham is deafening. He has the power to come out and explain what happened and what was said. We haven't heard a thing from him. If he reckons it is all done and dusted, as May does, why wouldn't he come out and back the club's decision and clarify his involvement. 

Why? The Club have come out and we now know Jake was actually doing what they all should have been doing. I mean what was Hibberd doing. Who knows if the others tried to say something. We don't need to know those details. We know that Maysie was drinking when he should not have been and got aggressive with Jake when he obviously tried to temper the situation. There is fault on all sides. Maysie has now apologised in the media and to his team mates and hopefully Joel Smith in particular. Jake has apologised to his team mates. Why does Jake need to come out and say anymore. Also while I'm at it that poster who said that Jake would come out after his retirement and try and make money out of this well just goes to show how low some posters here will go. Some here with obvious bias must have had a wonderful couple of days.

I just hate all of this. I love May, he has been so good for our club, but i hate reading about what he has said and the way he has carried on.

I love Melksham and he has given a fair bit to the club as well, love that he stood up for himself and his teammate, absolutely detest that he used violence. Hate it.

Just hate all of it, leaves me with a sick feeling in my guts. Cant say too much more about it really. Its just a huge mess.

 

  On 09/06/2022 at 01:01, willmoy said:

This should be the last straw for any supporters here to ever think that the Media thinks of anyone except themselves.They are scum and feed off Clubs as how and who it suits. When a footy Club runs direct competition successfully against the Media, well...

I would ban the media after this game win or lose. In fact close the shop up as much as possible for rest of home season.

Pretty human Club that we follow boys and girls..

I could have told you that years ago. But it has got worse tenfold 

Ch 9 regularly have Product Placement in their News (haha) Service 

  On 09/06/2022 at 03:33, Ham said:

Completely disagree, violence is never the answer. 

Hopefully the Community work that both have to do will be those concerning with violence and alcohol. Maybe REACH have a programme that both could contribute to.


  On 08/06/2022 at 23:28, Neil Crompton said:

We’ve talked about May and we’ve talked about Melksham, but I’m wondering what Joel Smith is currently thinking? We haven’t mentioned him. By all accounts he organised the dinner and presumably asked the 5 or 6 others to attend. So a close knit bunch of guys, friends, going to dinner. Then Joel, by all accounts, is verbally denigrated by one of said friends. If I was Joel, would I want to be playing down back with that person any more? He obviously doesn’t trust or believe in me. I think I might ask Goody if I can train with the forwards from now on.

It will be interesting to see how (and if) the fences can be mended after this. I have my doubts they can.

Of course they can, if May is sincere in his apology to Joel and Joel accepts it and moves on. May is clearly a bad drunk and other than a couple of drinking episodes with us, has been a model citizen. Why wouldn’t Joel accept that it was the grog talking, if May is genuinely contrite and remorseful. The boys and the team will move on.

Win or lose on QB, the bye will allow the club to reset, regroup and reconfirm the way they want to play and behave.

Edited by Redleg

Can anyone remind me if Whately called for an AFL Investigation, when DeGoey allegedly assaulted a man in the USA, by kicking and punching, after the victim was hit with a bottle, in company with a mate, in a nightclub, after allegedly, forcibly touching a female?

Did De Goey cop any punishment at all from the club or his leadership group? Did Whately question that?

Selective moral conscience is a wonderful thing!

Edited by Redleg

  On 09/06/2022 at 04:17, Redleg said:

Can anyone remind me if Whately called for an AFL Investigation, when DeGoey assaulted a man in the USA, in company with a bodybuilder/mate, in a nightclub?

Did De Goey cop any punishment at all from the club or his leadership group? Did Whately question that?

Selective moral conscience is a wonderful thing!

Complete overreaction, what does he think the AFL will uncover that hasn't already come to light. Did we ever get a clear explanation as to what happened in the chop sticks scandal?

 

From all the available info it seems milkshake was defending those disrespected by May, probably why he was not suspended. May it seems could benefit from a visit to AA. I find it difficult to believe a "sorry" is going to fix things in the short term. Our chances of a repeat GF seems to have flown out the window. If we beat the pies I will be amazed.

Edited by old dee


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