Further turmoil at Shinbonerville...

Terrible news for a struggling club. I'd suggest that there will be more fallout than just these three. Not because I know anything, but it seems most unlikely that three people leaving like this will resolve whatever the underlying problems are.

I mean, they could probably do with some change in their recruiting and list management department tbh...

 

5 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Terrible news for a struggling club. I'd suggest that there will be more fallout than just these three. Not because I know anything, but it seems most unlikely that three people leaving like this will resolve whatever the underlying problems are.

I feel sorry for North. It is not so long ago we were in a similar position.

1 minute ago, old dee said:

I feel sorry for North. It is not so long ago we were in a similar position.

Yes a bit close to the bone OD

Everyone needs to stop feeling sorry for other clubs. The weaker other clubs are, the better positioned we are.

I sat next to enough arrogant North fans on Saturday to know that when we are down the bottom again they won't show any mercy towards us. The way they tried to physically attack us during the game, knowing full well they couldn't win on skills, talent or execution, just shows you the sort of club they are.

 

12 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Everyone needs to stop feeling sorry for other clubs. The weaker other clubs are, the better positioned we are.

I sat next to enough arrogant North fans on Saturday to know that when we are down the bottom again they won't show any mercy towards us. The way they tried to physically attack us during the game, knowing full well they couldn't win on skills, talent or execution, just shows you the sort of club they are.

 

I agree we have to stay ruthless as a club/team on the field Jaded.  More than happy to thump everyone while we can!

Norf (and most other) supporters have always laughed in our faces & kicked us while we were down (for decades).  Been on the receiving end multiple times.

Bit of Kanga Karma maybe.

Edited May 24, 20222 yr by Demon Dynasty

20 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Everyone needs to stop feeling sorry for other clubs. The weaker other clubs are, the better positioned we are.

I sat next to enough arrogant North fans on Saturday to know that when we are down the bottom again they won't show any mercy towards us. The way they tried to physically attack us during the game, knowing full well they couldn't win on skills, talent or execution, just shows you the sort of club they are.

 

That first incident involving Langers looked a bit premeditated to me..

Probably doing them a big favour. List management and recruitment has been pure [censored]. 
 

Just putting this out there.

I know there have been whispers that some @ the AFL have been pushing to still look to relocate Nth to Tasmania,  and a lot of denials etc. Can the AFL, if it actually owns the licenses for all clubs, revoke the Nth license for the AFL and award a new license to Tasmania instead?  Nth could play VFL if they didn't want to exterminate the club entirely. 

In terms of the AFL competition, it's not diluting the talent pool, Tasmania gets a new team with it's own branding etc, the complexity of 19 teams is a non issue. Clubs with loud moth presidents like Tony Cochraine who are mewling at the thought of someone taking the teat from their mouth would have less of an argument about the slice of the pie.

I absolutely get this would be a disaster for Nth, but I doubt any supporters (other than the ones who live in Tas) would come across to support the team as a relocation anyway.

Give me 2 minutes to run for cover and then fire away!!!😁 

22 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Everyone needs to stop feeling sorry for other clubs. The weaker other clubs are, the better positioned we are.

I sat next to enough arrogant North fans on Saturday to know that when we are down the bottom again they won't show any mercy towards us. The way they tried to physically attack us during the game, knowing full well they couldn't win on skills, talent or execution, just shows you the sort of club they are.

 

I wouldn't say I feel sorry for teams but I would never want any other supporter to feel the way I did during the dark years.

13 minutes ago, illbarto said:

I wouldn't say I feel sorry for teams but I would never want any other supporter to feel the way I did during the dark years.

Not even Essendon and Carlton supporters?

27 minutes ago, Deestroy All said:

Probably doing them a big favour. List management and recruitment has been pure [censored]. 
 

I don't know if Noble is part of the problem or whatever. But I agree that losing 3 of their list mangers/recruiters might be a major positive. Brad Scott left the list and contract situation in a total mess which will take 3-5 years to reverse, so the train wreck might kill off a few more careers yet.

I genuinely feel for hem - I remember the Dees being in the same position and it was absolute agony with no relief in sight. I just hope they can begin a new era of personnel management - both player and coach - and get up and doing again.. 

Edited May 24, 20222 yr by Maldonboy38

25 minutes ago, Ouch! said:

Just putting this out there.

I know there have been whispers that some @ the AFL have been pushing to still look to relocate Nth to Tasmania,  and a lot of denials etc. Can the AFL, if it actually owns the licenses for all clubs, revoke the Nth license for the AFL and award a new license to Tasmania instead?  Nth could play VFL if they didn't want to exterminate the club entirely. 

In terms of the AFL competition, it's not diluting the talent pool, Tasmania gets a new team with it's own branding etc, the complexity of 19 teams is a non issue. Clubs with loud moth presidents like Tony Cochraine who are mewling at the thought of someone taking the teat from their mouth would have less of an argument about the slice of the pie.

I absolutely get this would be a disaster for Nth, but I doubt any supporters (other than the ones who live in Tas) would come across to support the team as a relocation anyway.

Give me 2 minutes to run for cover and then fire away!!!😁 

The AFL will have difficulty doing this as they have no leverage. North are pretty much debt free and have a good balance sheet. They most probably are more financial than us.

6 minutes ago, ANG13 said:

Not even Essendon and Carlton supporters?

or Collingwood eeeeew

Terrible news. What would you do if you were in control at North right now?

If it were me, I would figure out which club had the best recruiting team and target their staff with big offers.

That would be us.

34 minutes ago, Ouch! said:

Just putting this out there.

I know there have been whispers that some @ the AFL have been pushing to still look to relocate Nth to Tasmania,  and a lot of denials etc. Can the AFL, if it actually owns the licenses for all clubs, revoke the Nth license for the AFL and award a new license to Tasmania instead?  Nth could play VFL if they didn't want to exterminate the club entirely.

Hypothetical. AFL ask Tas to apply for a 19th licence. Application has to be approved by the 18 clubs. Clubs reject it. AFL says: "Well, sorry Tas. But our hands are tied, etc." Tas govt retaliates by revoking funding for Haw & North. Haw take the hit and move on. North slump financially. North go begging to AFL. AFL says: "We have funds available on conditions. Do you like apples, hiking in wilderness,  visiting Port Arthur, etc?"

1 hour ago, Jaded No More said:

Everyone needs to stop feeling sorry for other clubs. The weaker other clubs are, the better positioned we are.

I sat next to enough arrogant North fans on Saturday to know that when we are down the bottom again they won't show any mercy towards us. The way they tried to physically attack us during the game, knowing full well they couldn't win on skills, talent or execution, just shows you the sort of club they are.

 

What rubbish, a strong competition is better for everyone.  

20 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

What rubbish, a strong competition is better for everyone.  

Tasmania will be strong. 
north won’t 

4 minutes ago, BAMF said:

Terrible news. What would you do if you were in control at North right now?

"Hello, MFC? We have a ... 'Jason Horne Francis' ... on our books who wants to play at a decent club. Are you able to help? I know. I know. Yes. I know. It's just that we're mad with grief right now. Do you want a training facility based in the inner northern suburbs? It needs a good home too."

 

47 minutes ago, BAMF said:

If it were me, I would figure out which club had the best recruiting team and target their staff with big offers.

That would be us.

Our guys are interested in a brand new challenge. They already did the one about an under-resourced club building up a poor list to a powerful one. Now they're into how a powerful list can be maintained to keep challenging. Sorry, North.

they paid glenn luff a small fortune to poach him from champion data

the news about jason horne-francis going 'home' to sa - and not telling the club about it, and them only finding out cos of social snaps of him being, ahem, 'enthusiastic' on the evening away - is REALLY not good

2 hours ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Yes a bit close to the bone OD

"....close to the bone OD.."   

tibia??

Edited May 24, 20222 yr by monoccular

Time to get Peter Jackson back

1 hour ago, Demons11 said:

What rubbish, a strong competition is better for everyone.  

Ah yes, I remember soooo many fans saying this about our perils in 2013…

[censored] em.

No sympathy from me. Same North Melbourne that had Brent Harvey running around for them giving cheap shots, same North Melbourne that even their own supporters laughed at us during the dark times and same North Melbourne that beat us back in 1998 in the preliminary final (still dirty about that final system).