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2021 Best & Fairest Night

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Amazing the talent we have, Gawn and Petracca would have won the B&F if they were at any other club. 

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      On 17/12/2021 at 12:09, adonski said:

    No Fritsch in the top 10. Sack Goodwin.

    Needs to kick 7 in next year’s premiership to secure a top 10 spot. Don’t be stupid. 
     

    Congratulations to all the winners, and especially by to Clarry. Our unicorn in red and blue. 

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    Just watched the videos and was super impressed by Kate Rothey our president. She spoke so well. I think if any of the boys disrespected a female in any way she'd rip them apart. She has a real warmth as well. Her good wishes and inclusion of Glen Bartlett was great to see. She is a very good leader. We are a good club in good hands.

    Go Dees

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    Clarry - what can you say?
    3 BnFs at 24 years of age

    could go down as one the greatest ever Demons, top 3 ever.

    An absolute beast

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    Must have been a great night unfortunately I couldn't watch the live stream as I was watching Spiderman with my daughter. It was great to see Neale Daniher inducted into the hall of fame. Great send off for Nev and the legend Jones. 

    Fritsch not in the top 10 says how strong a list we really have. Great to see Neal-Bullen in the top 10. Salem in the top 4 shows that the AA selectors got it wrong he should have been AA ahead of Dale. The top 3 will go down as greats of not only the club but the game as well.

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      On 17/12/2021 at 11:13, rpfc said:

    Of the wings, Langdon was superior. Bradshaw had an amazing GF and sacrificed for the team to play defensive wing but he still did struggle to perform offensively. 

    Not a criticism coz someone has to do the hard work but I can see why he’s outside the top 10.

    He didn't struggle to perform offensively,

    His role was to support the backline and link up with the forward line which he did in a calm and efficient role playing manner. He was never going to be in the top 10 after he relinquished his on ball position for the team.

    Will always be able to stand tall for his play all season and magnificent best game ever ( for impact and team play) in the Grand Final. 

    Angus  like Tmac is a total team player ! 

     

     

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      On 17/12/2021 at 13:13, deespicable me said:

    Just watched the videos and was super impressed by Kate Rothey our president. She spoke so well. I think if any of the boys disrespected a female in any way she'd rip them apart. She has a real warmth as well. Her good wishes and inclusion of Glen Bartlett was great to see. She is a very good leader. We are a good club in good hands.

    Go Dees

    Well put Desp. 
    we will be great if we can keep up the standard of 2021 and win another or 2 more flags.

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      On 17/12/2021 at 13:13, deespicable me said:

    Just watched the videos and was super impressed by Kate Rothey our president. She spoke so well. I think if any of the boys disrespected a female in any way she'd rip them apart. She has a real warmth as well. Her good wishes and inclusion of Glen Bartlett was great to see. She is a very good leader. We are a good club in good hands.

    Go Dees

    Classy and competent. on two points

     One above acknowledging Glenn Bartlett, and secondly her comment on the directors and thanking them, most have been along for the ride for much of the dark times , stating her thanks and that people don't see or hear from them, "...which is how it should be..."

    Pert is our spokesman and does a brilliant job at it.  

    Take note Pies and Hawks please. Interestingly the who-ha of the Pies Board elections saw 5000 members vote out or a qualified 12,000, out of a toal memebrship of 80,000 or so. Talk about elitism.

    A special shout out to Nathan Jones-  boy did he speak well and from the heart. The standing ovation he received was priceless.

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      On 17/12/2021 at 18:14, 58er said:

    He didn't struggle to perform offensively,

    His role was to support the backline and link up with the forward line which he did in a calm and efficient role playing manner. He was never going to be in the top 10 after he relinquished his on ball position for the team.

    Will always be able to stand tall for his play all season and magnificent best game ever ( for impact and team play) in the Grand Final. 

    Angus  like Tmac is a total team player ! 

     

     

    Nice refence to Tmac 58.

    Tmac's shepherd in 3rd quarter will go down as the most effective in the Dees history. His finest moment too, to get Sparrows  goal (his finest moment also - so far) done was a GF turning point. Will be in highlights reels forever.

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    Great result.

    If my maths is correct there's 1000 votes on offer if you play all 25 games.

    When I look at the numbers there must be some pretty hard markers among those coaches.

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      On 17/12/2021 at 21:01, old55 said:

    Great result.

    If my maths is correct there's 1000 votes on offer if you play all 25 games.

    When I look at the numbers there must be some pretty hard markers among those coaches.

    Take Brayshaw for example. 332 votes from 25 games.averaging 13.28 votes a game from 4 coaches. 

     

    Ie each coach on average gave him on average 3.32 votes out of a possible 10.

     

    Is that right. Sounds too low

     

    Oliver scored 6.7 votes on average from each coach.. 

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    What criteria are adopted for the votes is unknown. Impact on the result, commitment to team plans, fulfilling roles, plugging gaps, versatility, innovation at the contest, exceeding expectations etc may also be relevant criteria in addition to accumulation of possessions and scores.

    Be proud of all players. They all contributed.

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    I tipped the top 5 in the comp on the night but didn’t win the cash money 😞 

    Edited by wonnabeeri

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    I used to live 2 doors down from Clarko. When I came home from a very long lunch I saw him  in his driveway and asked him if he would prefer Cripps or Oliver. He said Cripps. I argued.

    No wonder he got the sack.

    He was great bloke though by the way.

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      On 17/12/2021 at 21:29, jnrmac said:

    Take Brayshaw for example. 332 votes from 25 games.averaging 13.28 votes a game from 4 coaches. 

     

    Ie each coach on average gave him on average 3.32 votes out of a possible 10.

     

    Is that right. Sounds too low

     

    Oliver scored 6.7 votes on average from each coach.. 

    If the voting system is exponential and a 3-4 out of 10 is doing your job for the team then that sounds about right. Gus had a huge number of games where he really was ordinary at best, I'm thinking at least 6 or more where he wouldn't have hit the 3 mark. Then a lot of his games were probably around the 3-5. With a small handful of very good games scoring 6+ that counter out the games where he didn't play well.

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    Petty had 293 votes in 19 games. 15.4 a game.

    Lever 498 in 25 games. 19.2 a game.

    May  431 in 23 games (or 22.5 really).  18.7

    It's another leap from an average of 3/10 per coach to 4/10 and the role in the team for Petty is easier than the other guys but I thought that was interesting from the leaderboard. Clearly the coaches really liked Petty's year.

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    Not only did Clarry win the B&F in a premiership year he also has the most famous symbolic gesture in the MFC modern era when he raises his arm after his goal in the GF.

    Truly one of our greatest ever and at 24 he might prove to be our greatest ever.

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    Just finished watching the speeches. I saved the Daniher hall of fame induction until last. The tribute from Nathan Jones and Neale’s speech as delivered by David Neitz hit me straight in the heart.

    If you don’t like people seeing you cry I recommend watching it in private.

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      On 17/12/2021 at 10:22, Whispering_Jack said:

    The Norm Smith Memorial Trophy is a coach’s award and this year the winner was Alex Neal-Bullen.

    ANB is a testament to persistence and determination, with faith and guidance from the coaching staff thrown in.

    Were round by round scores given?  Interested in particular who would have got the votes in the PF (Max obviously) and the GF.

     

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    Clarry will go down as an all time great not just of the club but of the competition. Congratulations to him and all winners of various awards. 

    Interesting (and really good) to see that ANB won the coaches award. I remember when he got unfairly screwed by the MRO for his dangerous tackle against Adelaide last year (deserved suspension but not the length), I genuinely thought that could be the end of him. But the club stuck fat with his, he came into the pre-season same as TMac with a clean slate and rejuvenated attitude, and became the true definition of a clubman and a role player. He clearly loves the club, and is loved by his teammates. I’m more than happy to eat humble pie with my previous beliefs on what he would be as a player. 

    The other thing to note, as you’d expect from such a great year, is the players that ended up outside the top 10. Fritta had an incredible year, Brayshaw sacrificed to play a team oriented position, Spargo always cracked in, and Jackson won the Rising star. I don’t think any of them would begrudge their positions, they ultimately got to taste the greatest victory of all!

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    Says a lot about how the club deals with players that TMac and Nibbler, both told to look at their options in the off season, performed so strongly in the B&F voting. We really are in great shape culture wise

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    Congrats Clarry 

    I hope someone is there to help him with public speaking going forward 

    He was really struggling last night

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