2019 Draft Re-Ranked

[jnrmac 19,928]

According to the little paper the Dees have 3 inside the Top 7

Well done Jason Taylor and Tim Lamb

Re-ranked top 10

1. Luke Jackson (3)

2. Caleb Serong (8)

3. Kozzy Pickett (12)

4. Noah Anderson (2)

5. Tom Green (10)

6. Mitch Georgiades (18)

7. Trent Rivers (32)

8. Cody Weightman (15)

9. Harry Schoenberg (24)

10. Matt Rowell (1)

Edited November 9, 2021 by Grapeviney

[Demon Jack 6,757]

Also worth noting that our recruiting team was originally planning to select Georgiades with pick 32 before he was snapped up earlier than expected by Port. 

Safe to say our recruiters have an eye for finding 'it', that's for sure. 

 

 

[dee-tox 4,835]

You could even argue that Rivers has been more impressive than Anderson given the different positions they play...

[BDA 22,396]

He's a stager and quite dislikeable but Weightman should be higher in that list

[Lucifers Hero 39,029]

8 hours ago, jnrmac said:

According to the little paper the Dees have 3 inside the Top 7

Well done Jason Taylor and Tim Lamb

Re-ranked top 10

1. Luke Jackson (3)

2. Caleb Serong (8)

3. Kozzy Pickett (12)

4. Noah Anderson (2)

5. Tom Green (10)

6. Mitch Georgiades (18)

7. Trent Rivers (32)

8. Cody Weightman (15)

9. Harry Schoenberg (24)

10. Matt Rowell (1)

Credit to the development coaches and their team as well as recruiters.

A small technicality - this is the 2019 draft

[Allus Monk 568]

Three premiership players on that there list!

[durango 1,992]

18 minutes ago, Allus Monk said:

Three premiership players on that there list!

The only 3 premiership players in the list 2019 draft.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,664]

I know that it's the off-season and the Herald Sun is scrounging around for AFL stories. I also appreciate that it's November, so the Herald Sun is desperately trying to find stories with a link to the up-coming draft. But re-ordering a draft held less than 2 years ago is fatuous.

At least, that's what I would have written in any other year to justify why no Melbourne players made the top 10 or moved upwards in their personal ranking. 

(Let's be honest, it's a meaningless exercise given the brief opportunity these players have had to show their talents.)  

[DubDee 24,673]

Where is Young, Ash and Warner??

young especially looks a beauty. So quick and clean and a great kick. 
 

[Wrecker46 2,893]

53 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I know that it's the off-season and the Herald Sun is scrounging around for AFL stories. I also appreciate that it's November, so the Herald Sun is desperately trying to find stories with a link to the up-coming draft. But re-ordering a draft held less than 2 years ago is fatuous.

At least, that's what I would have written in any other year to justify why no Melbourne players made the top 10 or moved upwards in their personal ranking. 

(Let's be honest, it's a meaningless exercise given the brief opportunity these players have had to show their talents.)  

Let's go back a few years there is no doubting who is the best player in the 2014 and 2015 drafts. We had early picks but Petracca and Oliver thank you very much.

We also selected Mitch Hannan and Bayley Fritch in subsequent drafts with with much later picks and they both lit up the finals.

Our recruiting is almost exact in an inexact science.

[rjay 24,677]

Given this was actually the 2019 draft.

...in the 2020 draft Bowey would probably be re ranked in the top 5 and could be argued the new number 1 after his 7 games.

[daisycutter 29,429]

25 minutes ago, rjay said:

Given this was actually the 2019 draft.

...in the 2020 draft Bowey would probably be re ranked in the top 5 and could be argued the new number 1 after his 7 games.

they rated Bowey #4  (2020) and Clarrie #1 (2015) and Tracc #1 (2014)

[Macca 16,659]

In the same article Bayley Fritsch was re-ranked as No.3 in his draft year ... originally 31

Spargo in the same draft was originally picked at 29 but given the attrition rate of those picked above him,  he might sit just outside the top 10 (or better) in a re-ranked scenario

[Nelo 813]

11 hours ago, jnrmac said:

According to the little paper the Dees have 3 inside the Top 7

Well done Jason Taylor and Tim Lamb

Re-ranked top 10

1. Luke Jackson (3)

2. Caleb Serong (8)

3. Kozzy Pickett (12)

4. Noah Anderson (2)

5. Tom Green (10)

6. Mitch Georgiades (18)

7. Trent Rivers (32)

8. Cody Weightman (15)

9. Harry Schoenberg (24)

10. Matt Rowell (1)

Isn't this 2019?

[Demon Disciple 11,798]

If Rowell is at 10, don’t know how you can have Anderson at 4? Rowell’s 2020 was better (prior to injury) than Anderson’s 2021.

[Demons11 6,742]

4 hours ago, BDA said:

He's a stager and quite dislikeable but Weightman should be higher in that list

Weightman has played 4 good games, there is no way he should be higher 

[Macca 16,659]

47 minutes ago, rjay said:

Given this was actually the 2019 draft.

...in the 2020 draft Bowey would probably be re ranked in the top 5 and could be argued the new number 1 after his 7 games.

Right now probably so (with the small sample size) but he looks the goods already ... most impressive aspect is his exquisite kicking to position

Remarkable for a 7 game player ... and he plays tall as well.  Big future by the looks of it

[Mickey 4,519]

54 minutes ago, rjay said:

Given this was actually the 2019 draft.

...in the 2020 draft Bowey would probably be re ranked in the top 5 and could be argued the new number 1 after his 7 games.

Going to suggest Fake Footy do a 2021 re-draft before the actual draft takes place.

How you can meaningfully re-rank a draft after 12 months, as Fox Footy have done, is beyond me.

[Macca 16,659]

All backing up that Taylor has gone past all (including Wells & Clayton*) as the best talent identifier in the business

He's on a hot streak and who is to say he can't keep going?  Recruiting with a real purpose

At some stage we could be in the unique position of being talent overloaded ... and that's the position a club needs to be in

We're not there yet but could be in the foreseeable future

*Scott Clayton for his past record going back a bit

Edited November 9, 2021 by Macca

[58er 6,067]

2 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I know that it's the off-season and the Herald Sun is scrounging around for AFL stories. I also appreciate that it's November, so the Herald Sun is desperately trying to find stories with a link to the up-coming draft. But re-ordering a draft held less than 2 years ago is fatuous.

At least, that's what I would have written in any other year to justify why no Melbourne players made the top 10 or moved upwards in their personal ranking. 

(Let's be honest, it's a meaningless exercise given the brief opportunity these players have had to show their talents.)  

Really does it matter what the time frame is? It's always as at the time the list is redrafted no matter the date. 

Yes Dogga is 1 Kossie 3 and Riv 7 now and thoroughly deserving.

Ill be surprised if our 3 are not always in the top10 or very near especially if they keep racking up "premiership player" in the next half decade.

Congrats to JT Tim Lamb and the team as usual their judgement is spot on.

[Dante 2,705]

10 minutes ago, Macca said:

All backing up that Taylor has gone past all (including Wells & Clayton) as the best talent identifier in the business

He's on a hot streak and who is to say he can't keep going?  Recruiting with a real purpose

At some stage we could be in the unique position of being talent overloaded ... and that's the position a club needs to be in

We're not there yet but could be in the foreseeable future

 

Taylor seems to genuinely love the game.

He's just signed a long term renewal of his contact which means we will have him for a few flags yet.

Its ironic that he is really good friends with Bevridge, but he suggested he go elsewhere, Collingwood first and then he came to us. He has been able to pick out players in a number of positions, not just midfielders but talls and defenders and there's no reason we can't get 4 in a row with him doing the recruiting. 

[Wrecker46 2,893]

We were gifted Petracca at pick 2, I think time will tell Sparrow was an inspired pick and everyone thought we went too early on Oliver.

Bang, Bang, Bang.

[Macca 16,659]

20 minutes ago, Dante said:

Taylor seems to genuinely love the game.

He's just signed a long term renewal of his contact which means we will have him for a few flags yet.

Its ironic that he is really good friends with Bevridge, but he suggested he go elsewhere, Collingwood first and then he came to us. He has been able to pick out players in a number of positions, not just midfielders but talls and defenders and there's no reason we can't get 4 in a row with him doing the recruiting. 

Yes Taylor has the midas touch ... Stephen Wells did go off the boil eventually but that might have had a bit to do with the policy on the age demographics of their recruits

And wasn't he shuffled elsewhere within the club into a similar area?

For whatever reason the Cats didn't miss a beat for a good period (with draftees) and then decided to change tack and top up with oldies (whilst the game had become faster with younger legs needed to do the 2-way running)

Edited November 9, 2021 by Macca

[DeeSpencer 24,886]

58 minutes ago, Macca said:

All backing up that Taylor has gone past all (including Wells & Clayton*) as the best talent identifier in the business

He's on a hot streak and who is to say he can't keep going?  Recruiting with a real purpose

At some stage we could be in the unique position of being talent overloaded ... and that's the position a club needs to be in

We're not there yet but could be in the foreseeable future

*Scott Clayton for his past record going back a bit

Simon Dalrymple at the Dogs and then Sydney might be the only one I rate above Taylor purely for having the same level of huge success with early picks (Bont, Stringer, Macrae, Naughton) and then some more late round gems.

Taylor’s been freakish in the first and second round but surprisingly colder with late round picks.

The other clubs who have done really good jobs lately are Port, Brisbane and also GWS since Sos left. 

[DeeSpencer 24,886]

I think Rowell still goes somewhere between 1-3. And I’d have Green and Georgiades a little higher too.

Still an incredible draft for the Dees no matter how you rank them.