1 minute ago, Garbo said:

Just realised freo taking Jackson is payback for dees taking Jeff White, how did they do out of that trade?

pick 2 and 18 for white and 22

they traded pick 2 (brad ottens) for chris bond and pick 21

we used pick 22 to pick troy longmuir who - being a wa boy - inevitably requested a trade 'home' to freo several years later

i find it BIZARRE how much wa players some to be desperate to play in their home town 

Just now, whatwhat say what said:

pick 2 and 18 for white and 22

they traded pick 2 (brad ottens) for chris bond and pick 21

we used pick 22 to pick troy longmuir who - being a wa boy - inevitably requested a trade 'home' to freo several years later

i find it BIZARRE how much wa players some to be desperate to play in their home town 

And then 2 years later we got done for exceeding the salary cap which was apparently related to the salary we were paying White

So in 1999 we forfeited our first round draft pick (pick 5) to ... Fremantle

And they drafted Leigh Brown with pick 5 who eventually played in the Pies 2010 Premiership team

13 minutes ago, Macca said:

And then 2 years later we got done for exceeding the salary cap which was apparently related to the salary we were paying White

So in 1999 we forfeited our first round draft pick (pick 5) to ... Fremantle

And they drafted Leigh Brown with pick 5 who eventually played in the Pies 2010 Premiership team

no, our salary cap breaches were lyon, stynes, viney, and schwarz from memory - 95-98

and freo being 'gifted' an extra early pick beggars belief - one of wayne jackson's gifts for his beloved franchise

 

Edited July 9, 20222 yr by whatwhat say what

7 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

no, our salary cap breaches were lyon, stynes, viney, and schwarz from memory - 95-98

and freo being 'gifted' an extra early pick beggars belief - one of wayne jackson's gifts for his beloved franchise

 

That's probably true but somehow it was all tied in with White thus Freo got our pick 5

2 hours ago, Macca said:

That's probably true but somehow it was all tied in with White thus Freo got our pick 5

cos they were wayne jackson's franchise baby

59 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

cos they were wayne jackson's franchise baby

I remember thinking at the time that fair enough, we probably deserved a penalty but it should have stopped with the penalties handed out to our club

So we lose a pick but that pick can't be given to another club (except it was)

But did we not come clean about the salary cap breaches without any prompting? 

Fremantle ended up with picks 2, 4 & 5 in that draft year

Edited July 9, 20222 yr by Macca

12 hours ago, Garbo said:

Just realised freo taking Jackson is payback for dees taking Jeff White, how did they do out of that trade?

Jeff Framer trade requires evening up still!

14 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Personally, I wouldn’t trust a word Kevin Bacon says. 

Bacon tells porkies.

Some scenarios;

Jackson stays. In a few years he succeeds Max Gawn in the ruck, supported by some carefully recruited bigger-bodied forwards doing some ruck bashing sessions, and thereby providing a dynamism to our midfield that keeps us in premiership contention for a decade.

Jackson goes to Fremantle at the end of this season. Harmes trades out to Gold Coast and Andrew Brayshaw comes to Melbourne. Melbourne wins all the premierships for 4 more years because in the history of the VFL/AFL there has never been a midfield as quality or as balanced as Oliver, Petracca, Brayshaw & Viney.

Jackson, being the lovable young man he is, realises that Fremantle aren't able to offer a reasonable trade this season so agrees to a one year extension. At the end of 2023 the trade is made successfully, with the draft bonanza being traded for a solid worker ruck and grabbing a top quality kid. Melbourne also use the salary cap space opened up to lure both of the McKay twins as free agents, playing them forward together and ensuring we are never short of a contested marking target for the rest of the decade, going on to win multiple premierships.

I keep turning all kinds of scenarios in my head but I can't find one where we drop out of premiership contention, so, it is all fine.

 

 

21 hours ago, dl4e said:

100 pages showing how people can throw darts at a non existent board.

And only only ones throwing the darts in the first place are those who didn't poke their eye out first. 

On 7/9/2022 at 11:47 AM, Thehardtackler said:

I mean mentally on board. If Jackson does not have his heart in it, why play him?

Coz he is a good player who can help us win this year? 

The problem with ‘scorched earth’?

Nothing grows on it.

2 hours ago, Little Goffy said:

Some scenarios;

Jackson stays. In a few years he succeeds Max Gawn in the ruck, supported by some carefully recruited bigger-bodied forwards doing some ruck bashing sessions, and thereby providing a dynamism to our midfield that keeps us in premiership contention for a decade.

Jackson goes to Fremantle at the end of this season. Harmes trades out to Gold Coast and Andrew Brayshaw comes to Melbourne. Melbourne wins all the premierships for 4 more years because in the history of the VFL/AFL there has never been a midfield as quality or as balanced as Oliver, Petracca, Brayshaw & Viney.

Jackson, being the lovable young man he is, realises that Fremantle aren't able to offer a reasonable trade this season so agrees to a one year extension. At the end of 2023 the trade is made successfully, with the draft bonanza being traded for a solid worker ruck and grabbing a top quality kid. Melbourne also use the salary cap space opened up to lure both of the McKay twins as free agents, playing them forward together and ensuring we are never short of a contested marking target for the rest of the decade, going on to win multiple premierships.

I keep turning all kinds of scenarios in my head but I can't find one where we drop out of premiership contention, so, it is all fine.

 

 

Please stop this Andrew Brayshaw to Melbourne nonsense. Gus said months ago that Andy is happy in WA. His twin brother and oldest brother are there. Plus Freo are in their premiership window now, and Andy B is a big factor. They're not trading him for Jackson.

Yep, Andrew B is happy at Freo and he's their no 1 untouchable and best player. Besides, he'd be worth far more than Dogga in any trade

Remember Carlton fans saying Oliver to Blues was a lock? Lol!

Edited July 10, 20222 yr by Stiff Arm

Two years would be nice right about now Luke.

6 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Two years would be nice right about now Luke.

Maybe that is a sign that it is two years!!

And Howes' cryptic caption of 'Thursday vibes' is another sign...am I clutching at straws...

...an announcement today...???

Edited July 14, 20222 yr by Lucifers Hero

3 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Two years would be nice right about now Luke.

Thirsty Merc frontman?

6 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Two years would be nice right about now Luke.

Is this a sign.............

3 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Maybe that is a sign that it is two years!!

And Howes' caption of 'Thursday vibes' is another sign.  Clutching at straws perhaps...

There you go, always go to Blake for the vibes from now on!

I have no idea if Luke is going to stay or leave, but his body language suggests that he will stay for at least two years. 

6 minutes ago, Mr Steve said:

I have no idea if Luke is going to stay or leave, but his body language suggests that he will stay for at least two years. 

Well there you go, I thought he was playing rock, paper, scissors with Max.

He's making the scissors sign.  Oh no!  It means he plans to cut and run.

This thread is getting more and more ridiculous by the day. I love it.

10 minutes ago, Mr Steve said:

I have no idea if Luke is going to stay or leave, but his body language suggests that he will stay for at least two years. 

Steveo, I'm far more interested in his body language on game day. Some pundits on here feel as though that's the only place to really tell if he is invested and interested in staying!!

4 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

Steveo, I'm far more interested in his body language on game day. Some pundits on here feel as though that's the only place to really tell if he is invested and interested in staying!!

Spot on EO. Spot on.

16 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

He's making the scissors sign.  Oh no!  It means he plans to cut and run.

Exactly right. Looks like he was going to cut Goodwin in half.