We botched that hearing. But after all the nonsense the league has let go this year they were looking for a scalp.

Players wrestle all the time at training.

Except at Hawthorn where they stuffed up by boxing.

7 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

lucky to cop two weeks imo

Incredibly unlucky imo.....

I don't doubt what he did was stupid and was a poor look but let's not forget Viney didn't initiate the contact here.

The AFL is so inconsistent with these cases he has been dealt the harshest penalty than any like for like case and he was the only one to be dragged and held down by the other player. 

I think he is incredibly stiff.

If cotchin did that he'd end up getting a public apology from collins. Viney gets weeks. 

I love the way Jack plays the game. If the critics take the time to watch the whole sequence in real time they will note that two free kicks to Jack were ignored immediately prior to any elbow/forearm contact. They should also be aware that the action that lead to him being found guilty was brief, greatly magnified by the slow-mo used by the Media.

31 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

videos rarely lie

...but was the video conclusive.

I hope they got a better video than the one doing the rounds on the footy shows last night.

You couldn't make a decision based on that surely?

No evidence from Collins, no evidence from an umpire?

I would have given him a week for being a DH but not sure about the charge of contact with the neck.

17 minutes ago, BDA said:

2 weeks. shafted at the tribunal. again

Swings and roundabouts.

We got away with an absolute bank robbery with Fritsch in round 7.

 

Just now, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Swings and roundabouts.

We got away with an absolute bank robbery with Fritsch in round 7.

 

Fair point

3 minutes ago, rjay said:

...but was the video conclusive.

I hope they got a better video than the one doing the rounds on the footy shows last night.

You couldn't make a decision based on that surely?

No evidence from Collins, no evidence from an umpire?

I would have given him a week for being a DH but not sure about the charge of contact with the neck.

Haha I'm in favour of the DH charge.

 

I'm a bit confused, all year it has been about the outcome and not the action, part of which helped to get fritsch off back at the start of the year. 

Collins was clearly fine, played the rest of the game and hasnt had any delayed symptoms in the days following the game.

Big stitch up this. 

 

So many examples in life where stupidity results in a lot harsher penalties...

Take your whack Jack! ?

I genuinely believe this was a good ol stitch up. The AFL handed down orders for Christiansen to pass this straight onto the AFL... possibly as one poster has said, because of the Fritsch incident against Norf or the half a dozen other incidents from other teams that resulted in fines etc. 

Why we end up being that club... is it luck? i hardly think so - we are easy pickings and probably dont have any relevant authority or Melbourne people in the commission or AFL management. 

Hopefully Viney's fires right up and comes out swinging (metaphorically unless of course he was Hawkins or Franklin) against the Cats in 3 weeks time. 

44 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

videos rarely lie

The video was not conclusive. I believe this was acknowledged during the hearing

Yep Viney got stitched. I do however wonder what people here would be saying if it was Petracca or Oliver. I'd be doing cartwheels.

7 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Swings and roundabouts.

We got away with an absolute bank robbery with Fritsch in round 7.

 

inconclusive video evidence and no witness testimony from collins = shafted

nibbler = shafted

Wouldn't describe Fritsch verdict as bank robbery. Iirc it was deemed no case to answer (accidental contact) which was the correct call. But they did get the decision right so i'll give you that.

That a load of crap, 2 weeks for a "bad look" well good luck defining a "bad look" AFL make this crap up as they go, they are a joke.

Geelong have played their last 4 "home finals" (which itself is a joke) at the MCG... I'll bet anything you like if they get a home final against us it'll be down there.

Sick of being the push overs, hope someone takes a stand against this crap, we constantly ask players to take a stand on weekends yet the leaders of this club just lube themselves up to make it easier on AFL house

 

ARRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!

 

 

 

So Franklin and others can freely swing an elbow, but Viney gets 2 weeks for leaning with an elbow

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I’m glad he didn’t get 3-4. 

2 is reasonable. 

bring on Jordon and/Jonsey 

AFL is such an ameteur sport, how can one guy get a fine and another guy has to spend two weeks on the sideline. 

Man this is such a fair sport don't ya think

 

2 minutes ago, Demons1858 said:

So Franklin and others can freely swing an elbow, but Viney gets 2 weeks for leaning with an elbow

Yes I find it amazing that Franklin got off his charge. The ramifications of a flying elbow could be enormous. But that seems to be irrelevant 

Viney was stupid. But it didn’t warrant 2 weeks

 

20 minutes ago, dl4e said:

Yep Viney got stitched. I do however wonder what people here would be saying if it was Petracca or Oliver. I'd be doing cartwheels.

You’d be happy? 

11 minutes ago, Demons1858 said:

So Franklin and others can freely swing an elbow, but Viney gets 2 weeks for leaning with an elbow

Yes. That’s how the AFL works.

However - it’s worked this way for 30 years. At a certain point you have to know what you’re dealing with and adjust.

11 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Yes I find it amazing that Franklin got off his charge. The ramifications of a flying elbow could be enormous. But that seems to be irrelevant 

Viney was stupid. But it didn’t warrant 2 weeks

 

Yes, the errant elbow (causing damage) is perfectly fine these days. Dangerfield, Hawkins, Hipwood, etc.

Edited August 3, 20213 yr by dice

So [censored] ropeable right now.

The contrasting outcomes between Jack and Lance Franklin is a [censored] disgrace.

The only potential upside is that we can now micro manage Jacks training regime in the run-up to finals, get him cherry ripe ready to tear some opposition on-ballers a new one.

10 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Yes I find it amazing that Franklin got off his charge. The ramifications of a flying elbow could be enormous. But that seems to be irrelevant 

Viney was stupid. But it didn’t warrant 2 weeks

 

I'm ok with the 2 weeks, it's ridiculous and has no place, as long as that becomes the standard to witch all else are measured. It's the blatant double standards that needs to be held accountable.

This isn't a mistake, or a miss interpretation/classification. They sent him straight in, to be made an example, while other get off free. 

Ill never forget Tom Mitchell running back the the center after a North Melbourne goal, jumping 2ft off the ground to elbow Goldstein in the back of the head, while he's not looking, in-between play, he had to run 25m to catch up and premeditate his actions...

And he goes in to win a brownlow...

 

Farcical.

5 minutes ago, Josh said:

I'm ok with the 2 weeks, it's ridiculous and has no place, as long as that becomes the standard to witch all else are measured. It's the blatant double standards that needs to be held accountable.

This isn't a mistake, or a miss interpretation/classification. They sent him straight in, to be made an example, while other get off free. 

Ill never forget Tom Mitchell running back the the center after a North Melbourne goal, jumping 2ft off the ground to elbow Goldstein in the back of the head, while he's not looking, in-between play, he had to run 25m to catch up and premeditate his actions...

And he goes in to win a brownlow...

 

Farcical.

I am not ok with 2 weeks, for all the reasons you have mentioned above. The AFL Tribunal is an absolute dog’s breakfast. 
Why did Franklin get off? Sydney would have lost last week without him playing. 
I hope the MFC make Enquiries about this Clown ? School