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30 minutes ago, volders said:

Jordan, maybe due for a rest?

He can have a week off after the QB game.

Was important tonight, some significant involvements.

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OUT: Wiedeman, Melksham
IN: Brown, Langdon

I would be perfectly OK with no change to our forward line too by the way. Langdon's the only certainty and no way we drop Sparrow. Hunt might be injured, so I could see that being the change.

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I don't think the Weed can survive another week. Brown's three week stint was superior to the Weed's.

Be interested to know how Hunt's shoulder is.

Hard to tell on the TV what role Melk is playing but seemed particularly quiet!

 

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There is less than nothing in that Sparrow bump. I would be filthy (but not shocked)  if he gets any time for that. 
 

In: Langdon, Brown 

Out: Hunt, Weid

I would play JJ in Hunt’s role. 

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34 minutes ago, Turner said:

OUT: Weideman, Hunt, Melksham

IN: BBrown, Bowey, Langdon

Hope Bowey gets a game sooner or later but not against Collingwood on QB. After the Jack Watts experience, we should never give debuts in that game again.

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1 hour ago, Bates Mate said:

Bowey c'mon he is going to be a player but maybe jump to be at hunts level even though he wasn't amazing knows how to complete at afl level

ones averaging 20+ and ones averaging 11ish over the last month of games played u tell me who should get to whose level. bowey won't know how to compete at afl level if he never gets to play there. and if u are so against the bowey call i'd rather lockhart played than hunt, zac bailey another 4g from a small forward tonight

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1 hour ago, Whispering_Jack said:

Hope Bowey gets a game sooner or later but not against Collingwood on QB. After the Jack Watts experience, we should never give debuts in that game again.

no better time to do it, not a hostile crowd in the harbour city and the pies r rolling out their u21s themselves

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1 minute ago, Turner said:

ones averaging 20+ and ones averaging 11ish over the last month of games played u tell me who should get to whose level. bowey won't know how to compete at afl level if he never gets to play there. and if u are so against the bowey call i'd rather lockhart played than hunt, zac bailey another 4g from a small forward tonight

Bailey clearly kicked one goal (the soccer) on Brayshaw on the wing, another when matched up by Lever or possibly Salem. Hard to know not being at the ground but I didn't see Hunt on him all that often. A lot of his damage came from being the spare half forward that we allowed to go to the stoppage and then our mids and wingers not tracking him back to then handover to a half back.

Every time I've watched Bowey he's done very little defending. The Casey system has been excellent and Bowey has been good at getting first hands on the ball like most smart players do, but there was no evidence that Bowey will help our defending at all. In fact I'd be confident to say he won't, apart from making the attack more dangerous and getting the ball up the other end.

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4 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Bailey clearly kicked one goal (the soccer) on Brayshaw on the wing, another when matched up by Lever or possibly Salem. Hard to know not being at the ground but I didn't see Hunt on him all that often. A lot of his damage came from being the spare half forward that we allowed to go to the stoppage and then our mids and wingers not tracking him back to then handover to a half back.

Every time I've watched Bowey he's done very little defending. The Casey system has been excellent and Bowey has been good at getting first hands on the ball like most smart players do, but there was no evidence that Bowey will help our defending at all. In fact I'd be confident to say he won't, apart from making the attack more dangerous and getting the ball up the other end.

hunt also isn't really defending. the goals weren't necessarily on hunt but hes contributing the least back there so if we want to tighten up that spot something has to give and u can't really make a case for the other 6. in lockhart you'd be freeing hibbo up to do more rebounding rather than being deepest. 

bowey should have license to attack as thats his strength and i don't doubt he'd have the same if not more impact on our offence as hunt is currently having 

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5 minutes ago, Turner said:

hunt also isn't really defending. the goals weren't necessarily on hunt but hes contributing the least back there so if we want to tighten up that spot something has to give and u can't really make a case for the other 6. in lockhart you'd be freeing hibbo up to do more rebounding rather than being deepest. 

bowey should have license to attack as thats his strength and i don't doubt he'd have the same if not more impact on our offence as hunt is currently having 

We've seen what a freed up Hibbo is the last two years and it isn't good. It's turnovers and getting caught with the ball. If it was 2018 then that's absolutely what we'd do but Hibbo is now at his best in a deeper role that sees him get more rest before burst efforts. Hunt's speed to close down and his aerial ability have both been important parts of the structure. Lockhart could provide some of what he does but he doesn't have the height.

I'm all for giving Bowey a taste because I want to see his attacking game but I really think we'd have to be comfortable knowing the defending would take a small hit.

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Out: Sparrow (I think he'll go)
In: Langdon

* Ben Brown got 4 possessions in the vfl last week so unless he forces his way back into the team we shouldn't change a team too much that's just beaten the dogs and now lions. 

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I cut and paste this week after week.

Out: Melksham - he plays like couldn't care less.

In: Anyone

While he's out of touch, I reckon we persist with Weid.

He's the right type of player and if we can find him a cheap kill in the next month, it might be just the thing to kick-start his season.

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At 11-1, and a bye after the pies game, I would be happy for them to give langdon a week off and Salem too ( carrying a niggle). 

Would give both players a really good breK, langdon in particular.

Tbey won't want to make too many changes, as much as anything to respect the mnd game.

And he probably wouldn't want to not play, but giving maxy a mini break wouldn't be such a bad thing too. 3 week spell so he can get set for a big second half of the year.

Id bring bowey in for Salem. Like for like and he gets a taste of afl, which might be important if he is needed at at a later point.

 

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Langdon will come back in, he got a concussion and it seemed to be at the lower end so I think he'll have already benefitted from the break he's getting. Hard to know who will come out, from what little I've seen I thought Sparrow was good tonight so harsh to drop him. Could look to give Jordon a rest, Sparrow has already had a couple of "rest weeks" due to VFL scheduling and being a sub, so for a young body it might be worth it for JJ and we can give Sparrow a good opportunity.

Salem has been very down on numbers since he returned so I do wonder if he's ok. Might be worth giving him the chance to have a couple of weeks of R&R. An Opportunity for Bowey to get a run, or perhaps Lockhart? Deakyn Smith is another thought, though I'm not sure where he's been sitting in the pecking order.

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3 hours ago, volders said:

IN: Langdon, B.Brown

OUT: Melk, Weid

?: Is Viney Ready? Think he is an automatic inclusion, but tough to find an OUT. Hunt maybe, but the defensive unit has been good, think her keeps his spot for now. Sparrow as the last one in, but he was good tonight. Jordan, maybe due for a rest?

Yes Viney is ready..

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I thought Hunt was average, but he was amongst the first praised by Goodwin for defensive efforts in his presser, so i am going to watch again. Must have done a role well, that i was not astute enough to comprehend.

Melksham definitely didn’t go on two occasions, and where I thought he squibbed it.

I am still backing Weid though, is hitting packs at exactly the right time and keeps his head up, I would be buying him in fantasy football. He is going to come good.

Langdon for Melksham only change.

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5 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

 

Pack the game up if that's a week

He's in some strife. Steps past the ball, elects to bump and gets him high with shoulder. Fine if he's lucky but wouldn't be surprised if he gets a week.

So should Zorko btw too.

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8 hours ago, Boots and all said:

1-2 weeks away I think

believe that when I see it 

4 to 6 at least

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Melksham out for Lingers. I would persevere with Weid as whilst he is not having the expected direct impact our forwardline seems to function better. I also think the SCG is not the ground to bring BBB in as I suggest him and T will get in each other’s way.  

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4 hours ago, DEE fence said:

I thought Hunt was average, but he was amongst the first praised by Goodwin for defensive efforts in his presser, so i am going to watch again. Must have done a role well, that i was not astute enough to comprehend.

Melksham definitely didn’t go on two occasions, and where I thought he squibbed it.

I am still backing Weid though, is hitting packs at exactly the right time and keeps his head up, I would be buying him in fantasy football. He is going to come good.

Langdon for Melksham only change.

On Hunt Dee f, it’s hard to see certain players roles on the TV, possessions wise he didn’t light up the stat sheet against the Dogs but every time he was visible on screen especially when the Dogs went forward he busted his chops running back to man up their wingers dropping into our attacking 50. At different times he was taking Lipinski, B Smith, Hunter and even took Weightman and fair to say all 4 hardly impacted the game that night. 
Would love to hear from the supporters that attended the game last night on how they saw Hunt.

We all like seeing him run and attack but that won’t always happen due to the game being played a certain way, his main objective is to defend and from the games I’ve seen live this year I think he’s been very good at that aspect.

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