3 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

Bowey is better I would play him ahead of those 2 even though he was injured last week.

BOWEY HAS BEEN GREAT FIR CASEY SO FAR

Viney and Salem in 

Jetta and Melksham out 

Would also seriously consider BBB 

To the naked eye I’d say bring better players in and drop poor performers.

But to the eye that has brains I’d say Jetta, Melksham out and assess fitness of Viney and Salem. If Lockhart is ready to go I don’t see why he wouldn’t be pushing. 
 

Still thinking about Weid, don’t want to change things too much but he wasn’t good. 

2 hours ago, Demons11 said:

Cmon Cassie take a step back and thing about your comments before posting.  Hindsight is a wonderful thing when it comes to knowing who should have played between Weed or Ben Brown. As for Gawn you are way off and if you think we would ever drop our captain you are kidding yourself.  Gawn hasn’t been dominating the last few weeks but to even entertain dropping him is ludicrous. 

Weid didn’t play to well in his last game either. Brown had a good last game.

Gawn has been disappointing lately and judging by other comments here I’m not the only one who believes it. If someone if playing below their skill level I don’t think they should be retained just because “they’re the captain.”

I thought long and hard about my comments before I posted them and I stand by them ?

Weightman is just the sort of guy that would kick 6 against us. We don't have a good match up for small forwards. 

5 hours ago, Jaded said:

I actually can’t believe Tmac missed his set shot last night. He hasn’t missed those all year. So costly. 
And Fritsch’s set shot was an utter disgrace. Didn’t make the distance or even landed anywhere near the goals. They kicked accurately and won. Our woeful goal kicking is just another area that is starting to hurt us badly. 

Starting? It's been hurting us all year, really

We've had five games with more goals than behinds and five the other way around. We had +7 scoring shots but only a 22 point win. Against St Kilda it was +13 scoring shots but only 19 point margin. Geelong was +10 scoring shots but only +25 points, Carlton was +11 for 26 points and then last night we lost despite having +4 scoring shots.

Only once has our opponent had more scoring shots than us and that was Sydney, where our accuracy helped us win. Too many times this year we have let sides off the hook and kept games closer than they needed to be (and gave up percentage) by missing shots.

 

in Viney, Salem, M.Brown

Out Jetta, Melksham and Weideman

In the Casey match only Bowey and Lockhart made any claims for promotion. BBB hardly touched it and Jones showed spirit but not outstanding.

 

50 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

Viney and Salem in 

Jetta and Melksham out 

Would also seriously consider BBB 

No BBB not on how he went at Casey today. 

47 minutes ago, Cassiew said:

Weid didn’t play to well in his last game either. Brown had a good last game.

Gawn has been disappointing lately and judging by other comments here I’m not the only one who believes it. If someone if playing below their skill level I don’t think they should be retained just because “they’re the captain.”

I thought long and hard about my comments before I posted them and I stand by them ?

?

Well, Ben Brown won't be coming in....

OUT: Jetta, Melksham

IN: Salem, Viney (if they're not ready, swap for Lockhart and Sparrow)

Fritsch better get a rocket this week.

Re Melksham: his replacement isn’t Sparrow - who’s a mid. It has to be another forward, and the ready to go alternative is Jones. 

Sparrow for Jordan or another mid if he’s to come in, but Viney would be first choice if ready. 

8 minutes ago, bing181 said:

Re Melksham: his replacement isn’t Sparrow - who’s a mid. It has to be another forward, and the ready to go alternative is Jones. 

Sparrow for Jordan or another mid if he’s to come in, but Viney would be first choice if ready. 

Not necessarily. Bringing in Sparrow into the mix means Harmes, Petracca or Oliver can go forward more often, OR you could just have Sparrow playing as a forward. It's not set in stone there's no flexibility in roles players are asked to play. Having Sparrow instead of Melksham as a forward gives us more pressure and intent in that part of the ground, something we've been missing for a couple of weeks.

 

10 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Not necessarily. Bringing in Sparrow into the mix means Harmes, Petracca or Oliver can go forward more often, OR you could just have Sparrow playing as a forward. It's not set in stone there's no flexibility in roles players are asked to play. Having Sparrow instead of Melksham as a forward gives us more pressure and intent in that part of the ground, something we've been missing for a couple of weeks.

 

Exactly, that's what Sparrow did in our first 4 rounds and our defensive pressure was really strong. Petracca keeps butchering it around the ground so much he's actually at his best playing forward and up for centre bounces/clearances. Cutting down the midfield time for Brayshaw, Harmes and JJ let's them be fresher when they are out there too.

It's human nature to be reactionary, and supporters are number one at this when it's such an emotional investment.

We've lost a game by a point... 

By a team that has also beaten Geelong (a top 4 contender).

Now if I was a Bulldogs supporter looking at the form line between the two, then it's lineball.

But if I was an emotional supporter of the Dog's I'd be shirting bricks...

Bulldogs Supporter Stream of Consciousness

"Streuth, we've got the Dee's  - they've just lost to Adelaide, they're off the boil and we have them on our home deck", but heck we're going alright...aren't we? I mean,  our tails are up, we've dismantled the Saints, but only two weeks ago, we've proven we can't handle intense long term pressure, when we lost to the Tigers, with 4 of their best midfield out by 4 goals. We only kicked 2 goals after half time" 

"Actually, we only just snuck in against Carlton, after they dropped their guard in the final quarter"

"If I was a Melbourne supporter, I'd say we're ripe for the picking after a stroll in the park against a weak St Kilda side".

But..I'm an emotional Melbourne supporter - and I'll wonder out a loud and say things like

• Is Goodwin the right guy? Mmmm perhaps I'll start a thread on that one.
• Weideman has had too many chances, 6 years in the system and STILL has no presence
• Fritsch...yeah he's silk, but he is selfish and doesn't tackle and we need everyone to tackle, even if they're silk
• Gawn isn't captain material when he drops marks like that
• Lever and May are lazy/arrogant...heck they're both!
• Petty, should have been delisted
• Petracca just showboats
• We don't have depth
• Our issues haven't been fixed in all the time that Goodwin has been on as coach
• Did I mention Melksham should be dropped
• And if we have to bring in Jones from the two's then we have no depth.

Like any match - it's essentially about the pressure that is brought... time and time and time again....and the odd call or non call from an umpire.

Salem is presumably an in for Jetta if not then Lockhart.  Viney hopefully is an in for Melksham if not then either Sparrow or Chandler need to come in for more defensive pressure (or if they wanted to be really daring they could bring in Bowey) 

 

Jones in as the medical sub. 

Edited May 23, 20214 yr by grazman

It's very unlikely anyone who played today will come in for a Friday night game.  I'd be expecting very little change.  Hopefully Salem back.

If Ben Brown isn't right and Weid hasn't nailed his spot I reckon we go smaller. The forward line has functioned better with Fritsch, McDonald and Jackson. Gawn stays more engaged in the game. Jackson is our best 'bring the ball to ground' tall forward. Fritsch stays in games getting more of the ball at full forward.

The question is who to bring in. Salem for Jetta obviously.

I'd be thinking about Lockhart and Sparrow for Melksham and Weid. 

Sparrow plays half forward with some short stints on ball as the 5th on baller.

Lockhart plays a mixture of a few short stints on ball, a little on the wing and a little at half forward. I'd use him very much as an impact player to bring fresh legs. He can even take a stint on a back flank to give the half backs an extra rotation.

The secret to beating the dogs is to keep the pressure on for long enough that they start doubting their skills and to move the ball around to stop their aggressive zone defending having easy peel off spoils.

desperately hoping Viney is fit.

He and Salem in for Jetta and Melksham. Sparrow in for JJ who goes to medical sub

13 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Lockhart plays a mixture of a few short stints on ball, a little on the wing and a little at half forward. I'd use him very much as an impact player to bring fresh legs. He can even take a stint on a back flank to give the half backs an extra rotation.

The secret to beating the dogs is to keep the pressure on for long enough that they start doubting their skills and to move the ball around to stop their aggressive zone defending having easy peel off spoils.

wake up DS, lockhart is a defender and certainly not a league level onballer in a premiership contenders side, and also isn't a forward especially when we have forwards in form in the twos

We are a team that was one poor umpiring decision from being 10 straight. Absolute maximum of three changes and those depend a lot on fitness - Jetta for Salem is the obvious first one and Viney is an automatic inclusion if fit.

Can't understand how you could mount a case to drop Fritsch ahead of Weideman, though BBB may not have done enough to come back (stiff to be dropped in the first place and matches up well against dogs) and Mitch Brown would be a retrograde step.

As for the idea of dropping Max, save me Jebus...

You can argue that the ball use was a problem for Weid but reality he he didnt create a strong leading target like BBB does, you cant hit a target that doesn't exist. Brown in, I suspect Weideman will be playing elsewhere in 2022.

Jordon has hit that point that many young players hit where he needs a break, needs work on his disposal too. Brayshaw is another that needs to be discussed, poor again yesterday, the play where he shepherded one of his teammates out of the way rather than laying a tackle on Mackay who ran through him and kicked the goal was typically ridiculous. Milk great first quarter than nothing but his creativity still too valuable if fit, agree with others he needs to think more about his defensive game. Jackson is coming along really well.

2 hours ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

 

Would also seriously consider BBB 

Read the Casey thread.

5 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Read the Casey thread.

Would actually prefer M Brown over Weid right now. Through the was ok against the Hawks a few weeks ago. Took his chances.

Looking at the Casey game maybe baker comes in for hunt, if Ben Brown is a no go then maybe the other brown wouldn’t be the worst idea. He is still a tall but brings a bit more than either when it goes to ground like pedo back in the day