TRAINING: Thursday 8th April 2021

[Tarax Club 4,058]

1 hour ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

The thing about Gawn's kicking is that the result is consistent. Therefore, he doesn't need to change his technique. All he has to do is aim further to the right each time.

In Max’s circumstances he should always ‘aim’ for the right peg. Maybe he should consider old “Chicken Legs” as his personal goal kicking coach. Seemed to be all over it from the commentary box. That being said, have seen Max kick a super checkside goal on the run from the boundary at Mararra. Using the non-preferred hoof facing down field! Pressure was off of course,  practice shenanigans.

Edited April 8, 2021 by Tarax Club
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[picket fence 17,752]

6 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

Could one of Bowie or Laurie replace Jetta at some stage?

Lets face it it is Nev and Chunkies last year and u only gotta look at Caleb Daniels to see what could possibly occur. Caleb Daniels, now there is a thought!

[Cards13 9,117]

1 hour ago, MF-C said:

True. It has a big right to left hook. 

I just get so nervous when Max has a set shot. 

Same with Jacko and Clarry (I would of said Fritta too but I like his action, the result is just all over the place).  

I don’t, I know it is hooking left every time. Sometimes it scraps in, sometimes it doesn’t. 

[tiers 2,860]

Practicing goal kicking in the wind should force players to concentrate and focus on their approach and ball drop.

Skills and techniques learnt under pressure will apply even when there is no wind.

 

[4_Kent_Watts 897]

2 hours ago, daisycutter said:

maybe that's why big maxie always allows for the wind even when there is none?

 From the Goalsquare. Nice to see him get a couple last week, Happy for him to be resting there in the goal square instead of the pine.  

[dworship 3,342]

3 hours ago, Tarax Club said:

Picket your training posts (in this neck of the woods at least) have now achieved legendary status. Glad they're back! Best read of the week on DL by a country kilometer. Stirring stuff! Set the scene for a late Sunday showdown at the 'G'. May the PA be belting out Alice Cooper's Welcome to My Nightmare and the boyz come out with real intent.

Happy to stick with "Hells Bells"

[4_Kent_Watts 897]

1 hour ago, Rusty Nails said:

Noice PF.  When is the next training sesh anyone know yet?

Apologies for being off topic but my Boss was talking about Rusty Nails today, wouldn't happen to be part of a cover band back in the day.?

[Hellaintabadplacetobe 4,297]

4 minutes ago, dworship said:

Happy to stick with "Hells Bells"

They played Enter Sandman as they ran out against Freo! Loved it !

[dworship 3,342]

1 minute ago, Hell Bent said:

They played Enter Sandman as they ran out against Freo! Loved it !

Really? I missed that.

[Nasher 33,617]

41 minutes ago, Tarax Club said:

In Max’s circumstances he should always ‘aim’ for the right peg. Maybe he should consider old “Chicken Legs” as his personal goal kicking coach. Seemed to be all over it from the commentary box. That being said, have seen Max kick a super checkside goal on the run from the boundary at Mararra. Using the non-preferred hoof facing down field! Pressure was off of course,  practice shenanigans.

He said in his interview with Harford and co recently that when he aims right, he misses to the right.

I expect that if there was an easy and obvious fix to his goal kicking, he’d have easily and obviously fixed it ages ago.

[rpfc 28,844]

25 minutes ago, tiers said:

Practicing goal kicking in the wind should force players to concentrate and focus on their approach and ball drop.

Skills and techniques learnt under pressure will apply even when there is no wind.

 

You change how you drop the footy and your cadence to kick the footy. 
 

@sueis right. Technique is not learnt at windswept Casey 

[Deemania since 56 6,738]

57 minutes ago, picket fence said:

From my perspective each has a "Bag of Tricks" Bowey is hard at it and QUICK and at some piont might oust Spargo, however Spargo is doing all he should so put that away for the time being. Laurie has polish and great football smarts and is sure to feature at some stage. Rosman to me will be "The Enigma" can take strong grabs, kicks freak goals and is elusive. I would think the club would be very happy with these three. Cant wait to see them in Praccy game Vs Willi on Sat

Thanks pf. Keepin up-to-date ain't easy and so many get overlooked, a little. Looking fwd to your report on the Willy game with the Casey All-Stars(!) and their fwd line of perfection...

[Tarax Club 4,058]

1 hour ago, Nasher said:

He said in his interview with Harford and co recently that when he aims right, he misses to the right.

I expect that if there was an easy and obvious fix to his goal kicking, he’d have easily and obviously fixed it ages ago.

Yes Maxie’s Massive ball drop doesn’t help, provides plenty of opportunity for deviation off the perpendicular or other arcane voodoo to kick in.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,368]

2 hours ago, picket fence said:

From my perspective each has a "Bag of Tricks" Bowey is hard at it and QUICK and at some piont might oust Spargo, however Spargo is doing all he should so put that away for the time being. Laurie has polish and great football smarts and is sure to feature at some stage. Rosman to me will be "The Enigma" can take strong grabs, kicks freak goals and is elusive. I would think the club would be very happy with these three. Cant wait to see them in Praccy game Vs Willi on Sat

It's great that these kids can just work on developing their games without being thrown to the wolves if senior footy before they're ready. Such a change from where we've been for a long time

[Superunknown 4,225]

3 hours ago, Hell Bent said:

They played Enter Sandman as they ran out against Freo! Loved it !

Power player by clutch

Victory lap propaghandi 

bulls on parade RATM

fsmiliar territory Mark of Cain

the list goes on

i note someone from the Dees playing list likes the black Crowes - class

 

[tiers 2,860]

3 hours ago, rpfc said:

You change how you drop the footy and your cadence to kick the footy. 
 

@sueis right. Technique is not learnt at windswept Casey 

You learn how to control the ball drop and how be balanced for the kick. These techniques apply in all conditions.

[Hellaintabadplacetobe 4,297]

36 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

Power player by clutch

Victory lap propaghandi 

bulls on parade RATM

fsmiliar territory Mark of Cain

the list goes on

i note someone from the Dees playing list likes the black Crowes - class

 

I reckon Rusty Cage would go ok Mr Cornell!

[Cheesy D. Pun 1,765]

5 hours ago, picket fence said:

Lets face it it is Nev and Chunkies last year and u only gotta look at Caleb Daniels to see what could possibly occur. Caleb Daniels, now there is a thought!

Nev is holding his spot because of the renewed prominence of 1v1s.

I reckon this is an area where we are ahead of the curve. Our back half is full of guys who can win those contests.

Yes, having guys that can pick apart teams with great kicking is important but, dare I say it, perhaps slightly less important with the field being somewhat less congested.

Edited April 8, 2021 by Cheesy D. Pun

[Pates 9,661]

9 hours ago, sue said:

I've said this before, but how can players practise goal kicking at a windy site like Casey?  When they miss (or score) they won't know if it was their technique or the wind that was the cause.  

I have been thinking about this ever since our first two rounds of awful kicking about whether training at Casey is hampering our goal kicking practice. Fritta in particular I’ve considered it because I notice the tough angles he seems to make a damn good first of or kicks them on game day but the easy ones he misses. 

[rpfc 28,844]

6 hours ago, tiers said:

You learn how to control the ball drop and how be balanced for the kick. These techniques apply in all conditions.

Then effing learn to kick in driving rain...

Again, you will not be learning technique to be repeated under the roof at Marvel or at the swirly contained G.

What a ridiculous back and forth this is.

[BDA 22,961]

The standard of goal kicking is poor across the league no matter what the conditions.

I saw a clip of Ross Lyon recently discussing this. Said the players need to take more responsibility for their technique. They need to practice more in their own time as there in not enough time during alotted training sessions to properly hone this skill. I’ve seen players out and about training at various spots around my locality over the years. Never once have they been practicing goal kicking.

I’m no expert and will defer to more knowledgeable posters but I would have thought that there are fundamentals of technique that apply no matter what the circumstances which you adjust to account for whatever the conditions are on gameday.

[Mickey 4,752]

8 hours ago, Pates said:

I have been thinking about this ever since our first two rounds of awful kicking about whether training at Casey is hampering our goal kicking practice. Fritta in particular I’ve considered it because I notice the tough angles he seems to make a damn good first of or kicks them on game day but the easy ones he misses. 

He hits most of his warm up kicks. Not sure it's technique that's his problem, seems to be mental

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

14 hours ago, tiers said:

Practicing goal kicking in the wind should force players to concentrate and focus on their approach and ball drop.

Skills and techniques learnt under pressure will apply even when there is no wind.

This is half right. They should practice goal kicking in the wind. They should also practice it in the calm.

The learning of the technique and the refining of the skill should be done in ideal conditions. Not when under fire.

They can learn more advanced skills (like kicking in the wind) when they've got the basics down reliably.

If you teach a man to swim by throwing him into the deep end of a pool, he may learn to freestyle but more likely he'll learn to dog paddle, and from then on, that's his default swimming style when under pressure.

 

14 hours ago, Nasher said:

He said in his interview with Harford and co recently that when he aims right, he misses to the right.

I expect that if there was an easy and obvious fix to his goal kicking, he’d have easily and obviously fixed it ages ago.

Max should learn to kick to the left and to the right so he knows what the difference feels like. Once he knows that, kicking it straight is a lot easier than when you're guessing.

[58er 6,688]

31 minutes ago, Mickey said:

He hits most of his warm up kicks. Not sure it's technique that's his problem, seems to be mental

Agree completely Mickey All  in his head needs to Be a complete player with mental toughness added!! 

[BW511 2,705]

3 hours ago, Better days ahead said:

The standard of goal kicking is poor across the league no matter what the conditions.

I saw a clip of Ross Lyon recently discussing this. Said the players need to take more responsibility for their technique. They need to practice more in their own time as there in not enough time during alotted training sessions to properly hone this skill. I’ve seen players out and about training at various spots around my locality over the years. Never once have they been practicing goal kicking.

I’m no expert and will defer to more knowledgeable posters but I would have thought that there are fundamentals of technique that apply no matter what the circumstances which you adjust to account for whatever the conditions are on gameday.

I've got a question about this for Ross;

If you spent 15 minutes each training session doing proper goal kicking practice, would you benefit more from better conversion with the shots you already get or would the 15 minutes doing other [censored] that equates to perhaps one more shot on goal be more beneficial?

I would think if you get 20 shots on goal each game and that is ultimately the defining factor in who wins or loses, it is the highest priority item for any coach. 

Wonder how many shots at the sticks an NRL or NFL kicker has each week?

How many penalty kicks would soccer players take during training?

How many free throws do basketball players take a week?

 

Edited April 8, 2021 by BW511