Jump to content

  • Podcast:     

  • Podcast:     

POSTGAME: Rd 01 vs Fremantle



Recommended Posts

3 hours ago, Better days ahead said:

A win is a win is a win. Better than a loss.

Positives:

Spargo - clean, composed, we have to get the ball into his hands as much as possible

Jordon – excellent debut, used the ball well, some nice I50 deliveries and kicked his goal

TMac – couldn’t give him away during the trade period but we lose that game yesterday without him. He’ll make me eat my words if he keeps this up.

Real defensive solidity. Teams will find I50 marks hard come by against us this year.

Smashed in the clearances but still won. Not sure if that’s a positive or negative but Yze needs to work overtime this week to sort out that hot mess. Gawn will dominate again against the saints. We have to figure out how to translate his dominance into winning clearances.

Negative:

Our goal kicking. It’s putrid. I can’t understand how professionals can be so poor in the absolute fundamental requirement of the game, kicking the ball between the big sticks. Fritsch again was very wayward (but not alone). How is this being coached? Is the problem between the ears? Probably worthy of a separate thread.

Onward to marvel we go. The saints are there for the taking.

Couldn't agree more. Any win is good. Doesn't matter how you get it done as long as you get it done. We bank the 4 points and agree Saints are there for the taking.

We also need to realise you can't play perfect footy all the time so this win is vital. Ask Lions and Cats if they would have preferred to play like us and win.

  • Like 7
Link to post
Share on other sites
  • Replies 406
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Posts

I thought our midfield really lacked cohesion. As an elite player, Max has next to no influence in clearances anymore, except for the occasional flash (see the Langdon goal).  Oliver constantly f

Steven May and Jake Lever were incredible really. As good as I've ever seen from a defensive duo in our colours. 

I didn't log on once during pre-season. I thought I'd take a bit of a Demonland break. I watched round one and saw us cruise to an easy win, that never at any stage looked remotely in doubt, that

Posted Images

4 hours ago, rjay said:

I think he's being told to take more time and break into space...so many on here have criticised him for being too quick to handball in the past.

I just don't think he has the balance right yet but will do and be a better player for it.

Agree with 'A F' that he's key to our midfield. Tracc gets the glory but Oliver is every bit as important if not more so.

yeah i think you're right. it looked to me like he was trying to take on the tackler more before giving off (which he hasn't always done, but needs to do if we wants to improve) and he just didn't quite get it right. 

i think early on in games when its hot he would maybe be best suited by taking first option by hand or just gaining metres by foot, then as the game slows up a bit and players begin to tire, look to take them on more often. it's a balancing act and i have no doubt he'll get better at it. the good news is that he is trying it.

  • Like 2
Link to post
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said:

They never cared about winning the tap might be more correct.

They were often well down in clearances compared to the oppo I remember it being a talking point many times 

Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Hogan2014 said:

Whilst it’s a win the reality is our kicking going into fwd 50 is poor and hasn’t changed for the last 5 seasons, yep first game understand that but we would have lost against a top team. Question is it game plan? Drafting players who can’t hit targets, development, all of the above?

Were you watching the much-maligned Charlie Spargo at all yesterday?  Directly responsible for 3 goals hitting targets inside 50 and kicked one himself - that's more than 1/3rd of our goals scored.  And we specifically picked up Bowey and Laurie because they have this trait.

  • Like 6
Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, sisso said:

Yze coming from Hawthorn they never cared about clearances much even when winning flags: could this be a different style of footy we saw for the first time yesterday? 

According to Jordan Lewis the first possession at the clearance is important but what happens after that is crucial. There is now a lot more space around stoppages and thats where we were killed yesterday.

Freo more often than not took the ball away because Melbourne were still bees around the honeypot. A break to the outside and they were away. This got better for us as thegame wore on but its a work in progress.

 

Aside from our KP backs who were outstanding , Hats off to Spargo who was very infuential, JJ was great, Nev was back to his best one on one, Hunt did some nice things, Langdon is a gun, Jacksons last quarter showed what he can do and Kozzie will frighten a few teams this year.

It was a warm day and I was worried about Freo running out the game better  but alas our fitness was very good.

Our kicking for goal is pathetic. and the umpires have gone backwards if that is even possible,

 

Edited by jnrmac
  • Like 3
Link to post
Share on other sites

17 hours ago, Roost it far said:

The umpiring was fine

No it wasn't. The Hunt free on Henry was ridiculous as was the Salem 'sling tackle'.

Lever received a 50m penalty that was totally wrong and Langdon gave away a 50m penalty but was next to his opponent as he ran past.

There were a least a dozen more howlers that I recall..

 

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

Learnings as yet unlearned:

1. Up and under kicks to targets gives the opposition time to apply pressure to the receiver.

2. Ditto re handballs.

3. We get beaten on the outside.

Seems to me these are basic problems that persist, despite many lessons.

  • Like 2
Link to post
Share on other sites
8 hours ago, Ugottobekidding said:

Rosman will be a suitable outside mid.

Many of us consider that to be the case, so why is he not being blooded? A soft game (in relative terms) like yesterday against Freo might have been a good choice to let him loose for a few stages of several quarters. Harmes needed to be shifted and perhaps Rosman was the bloke to be given that opportunity, even though it was not really a 'spoiler' role that Harmes was playing. Anyway, the future of our youth looks bright, to say the least.

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Anyone still think we overpaid to get Jake Lever to the club?  

  • Like 4
Link to post
Share on other sites

I must admit that I am mystified that are rucks are so dominant and our do not take advantage at nearly every stoppage. I agree give it to Spargo and Jordan both can deliver the ball to a player on the lead. ANB is a good toiler however his delivery into the 50 is suspect and so has Jones. I think strategy and game plan will adapt with the new rule. I think every coach is still trying to identify how to safely get the ball out into the open. Richmond does it best at present. In a congested situation, it is clear that the players have been drilled to always hand ball forward no matter what. You can see this in how they nearly always have a minimum linkage of two to three players that run forward almost immediately. Lets watch and see how next week unfolds. 

Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, grazman said:

Anyone still think we overpaid to get Jake Lever to the club?  

If thats the way hes going to play in the Red and Blue for the rest of his career, I would compensate Adelaide with a future 2nd rounder if allowed.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Apologies if this has been mentioned already, found it interesting on how the main forwards were used yesterday. 

Three forwards from our game were in the top 5 for total distance covered. Taberner led the way, Fritta 3rd, T Mac 5th and they all combined for 7 goals. I think that’s more than a reasonable return when you take all the running into consideration which ranged from 13.8km to 15km. 

  • Like 2
  • Thanks 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
11 minutes ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

If thats the way hes going to play in the Red and Blue for the rest of his career, I would compensate Adelaide with a future 2nd rounder if allowed.

I wouldn't do that - They'd probably just use it to get Eddie Betts back to the club.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
36 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Many of us consider that to be the case, so why is he not being blooded? A soft game (in relative terms) like yesterday against Freo might have been a good choice to let him loose for a few stages of several quarters. Harmes needed to be shifted and perhaps Rosman was the bloke to be given that opportunity, even though it was not really a 'spoiler' role that Harmes was playing. Anyway, the future of our youth looks bright, to say the least.

 

Because he played a Casey game on the wing and was bloody ordinary. You can’t convert a school footy athlete to an AFL player overnight just because you want to.

  • Like 8
Link to post
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

According to Jordan Lewis the first possession at the clearance is important but what happens after that is crucial. There is now a lot more space around stoppages and thats where we were killed yesterday.

Freo more often than not took the ball away because Melbourne were still bees around the honeypot. A break to the outside and they were away. This got better for us as thegame wore on but its a work in progress.

We’re we killed?

A midfield of Fyfe, Mundy, Brayshaw, Cerra and Serong is going to have their moments in the sun. Apart from the first 5 minutes and then a flat patch in the 3rd we were very close to even. Freo fans right now would be saying ‘how did we let Oliver and Petracca get so much space running forward’

  • Like 3
Link to post
Share on other sites
8 hours ago, 58er said:

And that for the naysayers is why "Spargypants" keeps getting selected each week Doing team acts silently and unselfishly.

He played well, happy to admit it...

But, his good games have been few and far between, and can't remember a good one in a losing side

Hoping he builds consistency!

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
22 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Because he played a Casey game on the wing and was bloody ordinary. You can’t convert a school footy athlete to an AFL player overnight just because you want to.

And he is not ready yet. Needs a season at Casey for sure.

Link to post
Share on other sites
57 minutes ago, Grr-owl said:

Learnings as yet unlearned:

1. Up and under kicks to targets gives the opposition time to apply pressure to the receiver.

2. Ditto re handballs.

3. We get beaten on the outside.

Seems to me these are basic problems that persist, despite many lessons.

Some poor skills at times but I didn’t see hospital disposals as a huge issue. It’s AFL footy, it won’t always be clean. 

We had moments of not ideal midfield transition. Which will happen with the new rules particularly, it’s certainly room for improvement.

We didn’t strictly get beaten on the outside.   We had 104 marks to 69. Some of that is our talls having an advantage but our mids and half forwards all had marks out in space. 10 Freo players had 2 marks or less,  compared with 2 demons. 

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
35 minutes ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

If thats the way hes going to play in the Red and Blue for the rest of his career, I would compensate Adelaide with a future 2nd rounder if allowed.

Wait till the season is over and see how he continues his freakish form.

At the moment he is worth  along with May every bit of the draft choices we paid and Together we would have lost by 5 goals yesterday.

Have to pay overs for the best and Jake has his confidence plus his ability like May to organise our defense.

We desperately need onfield leaders with the same skills  in the midfield and up forward.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Grr-owl said:

Learnings as yet unlearned:

1. Up and under kicks to targets gives the opposition time to apply pressure to the receiver.

2. Ditto re handballs.

3. We get beaten on the outside.

Seems to me these are basic problems that persist, despite many lessons.

4. Goal kicking

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, 58er said:

Wait till the season is over and see how he continues his freakish form.

At the moment he is worth  along with May every bit of the draft choices we paid and Together we would have lost by 5 goals yesterday.

Have to pay overs for the best and Jake has his confidence plus his ability like May to organise our defense.

We desperately need onfield leaders with the same skills  in the midfield and up forward.

i thought it was great to see Lever educating Rivers after he gave away a free kick in front of goal yesterday when Lever was coming over the top and had it covered anyway. Jake's a real on field leader.

  • Like 2
Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

It was a warm day and I was worried about Freo running out the game better  but alas our fitness was very good.

 

Freudian slip?

  • Haha 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
59 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Because he played a Casey game on the wing and was bloody ordinary. You can’t convert a school footy athlete to an AFL player overnight just because you want to.

Fairy Nuff. Hence, I guess, a need for more direct information about Casey games required on this forum. 

Link to post
Share on other sites
On 3/20/2021 at 4:23 PM, america de cali said:

Losing the battle for the wooden spoon.

What a wannnk! Seriously I have no words 

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    THE EYE OF THE STORM by Whispering Jack

    When Melbourne monstered Richmond a few weeks back on the MCG thereby registering their sixth win on the trot, the block of games to follow looked highly appealing. After a stirring victory in difficult conditions over the reigning premier, the games to come were against a quartet of low achievers from 2020. North were winless, the Swans were the early high flyers now falling into a slump, Carlton couldn’t take a trick and the Crows had just lost an unloseable game to the Hawks in Launceston. Ev

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    DUCKING A PLUCKING by George On The Outer

    With seven consecutive wins for 2021 behind it, and not having played well in its previous game,  Melbourne was ripe for the picking (or plucking) by the Sydney Swans. However, in the end, it was the Ducks who found themselves plucked by a Demons side that continues its relentless successful roll for the Season. Or did the Demons narrowly duck a plucking themselves? Sydney brought its usual game style to the M.C.G.  Get in front and then shut down the game, scrap and refuse to mov

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    THE MERRY, MERRY MONTH OF MAY by The Oracle

    The month of May was a little more than halfway into its second day when the news came. Melbourne was on top of the AFL table for the first time since Round 3, 2005. As usual with the Demons, there was no time for celebration. They had just lost tough nut Jack Viney with yet another soft spot in his foot, Adam Tomlinson’s year was in ruins with what was subsequently confirmed as an ACL and Bayley Fritsch’s careless but unintentional fend off on North’s Tom Powell was about to see him charge

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    BLUNDSTONE BOOTED by George on the Outer

    The tough Aussie Blundstone boot is made for true blue collar workers, and so it was at this aptly named stadium in Hobart, that the Demons were made to work their hardest for their seventh consecutive win of the season. From the outset, North Melbourne put scoreboard pressure on Melbourne with two majors at an early stage in the first quarter. The Demons fought back and temporarily had the lead but the Kangaroos responded to lead by five points at quarter time. This was not what the public

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    UNTROUBLED by KC from Casey

    The Casey Demons were untroubled for the third week in a row as they went on a four quarter romp at Marvel Stadium to record a 107 point win over an undermanned bottom-of-the-ladder North Melbourne VFL. The scoring riot began about ten minutes into the game when Sam Weideman notched the first of four goals that could easily have been six or seven but for some uncharacteristic misses from close in. The Demon forward, spurned so far by the club’s AFL selectors, demonstrated a strong work rate

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Casey Articles

    I’LL GIVE THEE A WIND by Whispering Jack

    The football world was reminded this week about the last time Melbourne opened a season with six wins or more in a row. That was in 1965 when Sir Robert Gordon Menzies was Prime Minister of Australia and the country was fighting a war in faraway Vietnam. It was before Jack Viney’s father, Todd, was born — a time when the game was played almost exclusively on Saturdays and when Demon fans used to wake up in the morning mostly safe in the knowledge that there was not even the remotest possibility

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    MAKING HISTORY by KC from Casey

    This was a weekend of history with Anzac Day commemorations throughout the community including the sporting world including the VFL. For the Casey Demons, which originated from the Springvale Football Club founded in 1903, it was a double celebration as Saturday’s game was a celebration of the club’s 750th VFA/VFL match since admission to the competition in 1982. Springvale became the Casey Scorpions in 2005 when the club moved to Casey Fields and since 2017 has been known as the Casey Demo

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Casey Articles

    THE TWO ELEPHANTS NOT IN THE ROOM by WJ

    After another slow start when they conceded 2.3.15 to nothing in a handball-happy opening 15 minutes, the unflappable Demons delivered a warning sign of major proportions to the rest of the competition with their 34-point win over the reigning premiers in their Anzac Eve contest. And what made things even more ominous is that they did it without two elephants in the room - key forwards Ben Brown and Sam Weideman who have been amassing goals at VFL level while coming back from injuries that

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    A TALE OF TWO HEROES by Whispering Jack

    On Saturday night at the ANZAC Day Eve game between Melbourne and Richmond, we will give recognition to the achievements of two great Demons who made significant contributions to the Melbourne Football Club over substantially different time spans. The first is the late Frank V “Checker” Hughes who was born on 26 February 1894 and began his career as a Richmond player in 1915. Shortly after, Hughes was called on to serve his country when he went to war during WW1. He returned from battle and

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Special Features

    TURNING POINT by The Oracle

    It wasn’t that long ago when Melbourne held sway in its Anzac Eve matches against Richmond. The early versions of the blockbuster saw the Demons home by 32 points in 2015 and 33 in 2016. When the turning point came it was dramatic and sudden. The Demons might have been on an upward curve in 2017 under new coach Simon Goodwin but so were the Tigers who had finished a disappointing 13th in 2016. When the teams met in Round 5 under lights in front of a crowd of 85,657 — the highest ever betwee

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    STARTING OVER by KC from Casey

    The Casey Demons made a successful return to the playing field with a 51 point away from home victory over the Box Hill Hawks. The visitors were starting over after a hiatus of almost 20 months and fielded a strong team of 14 AFL listed players against an undermanned opponent. And they showed from the first bounce that they were out to make up for lost time with an aggressive opening that saw them off to 21 point lead at the first break with thanks to a dominant midfield and two key forward

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Casey Articles

    NUTCRACKER by George on the Outer

    Q: How to crack a tough nut? A: Use a bigger hammer! It took Melbourne until the last quarter to crack the Hawthorn nut. These days, the Hawks under Alastair Clarkson simply don’t have the talent that served them so well in years gone, and they have to rely on not losing rather than trying to win.   The result is that the match became a slog for three quarters, as Hawthorn clogged the game, flooded heavily and simply stopped the Melbourne run.  Even in the first quarter the signs

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports


×
×
  • Create New...