If pick 7 is the expectation for Saad, hopefully Oliver pisses off and nets us 14 first round picks.

Edited October 7, 20205 yr by adonski

13 hours ago, KLV said:

Why do so many key players want to go there? Williams, Saad and apparently Oliver, what’s the attraction?

I think you've put two and two together and made 22 here, KLV.  Oliver hasn't said anything about wanting to go to Carlton.

Rather, a Carlton-supporting "journalist" filed a flimsy rumour that he was unhappy about his B & F placing and suggested that Carlton could do with a player such as him.

Chinese whispers and MFCSS have unfortunately tricked a few people into the false belief that Oliver wants out.

2 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Really hope that Carlton do have to pay through the nose for him after they basically got Jack Martin for free.  I'd equally be ok with this all blowing up in the face of Essendon and Carlton,  with something similar happening this year and Sadd walking basically free in the preseason draft to say someone like North or Hawthorn who could scoop him up with their first pick in the preseason draft.

Saad needs to make it clear that he will leave if not traded. Probably the only way to deal with Dodoro.

We could have had Langdon for free (pick wise) so it always amazed me that we didn't do a play similar to Carlton

6 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

So for Carlton it's OK to cherry pick one game and say "oh they just need a few tweaks and some more development", but for us if we played one good game all year the response would be "one swallow doesn't make a summer" and "how long have we been waiting for this so-called development for"?

I guarantee if it was us who had lost late-season games, whilst in finals contention, to Collingwood (remember no one gives us any credit for beating an injury-depleted Collingwood), GWS (same deal) and Adelaide, no one on here would be referring to our "exciting brand" and no one on here would be suggesting we're just "a few tweaks" away from it.

Err, we too have an exciting brand, are a few tweaks away, some new recruits and another year of development from competing, just like Carlton. Never said we weren't.

The reference to Teague being approachable and friendly, and the players developing a good connection with him and his vision, is the major selling point by contrast. Teague doesn't come with the baggage of 17th and 9th AFTER making a prelim. IE he's not 4 years into a stint, under major review and have his job very much on the line like Goodwin. Harder and harder to sell hope as each year of failure passes.

I thought you might be been clever enough to figure that out without jumping down my throat and sooking about me not pumping up the MFC like I did Carlton. It's obvious we have great unrealised potential as well.

 

Edited October 7, 20205 yr by John Demonic

Carlton preparing to get Saad free if trade can't be done adam-saad-preseason-draft

Even tho there are a few teams ahead of Carlton who could draft Saad it would be unlikely if he refuses to meet them or do a medical.  It would be more a Luke Ball type situation.

Some interesting posturing coming up.  Dodoro might have met his match:  Carlton have shown with Martin they can be stubborn and won't blink first!

Edited October 8, 20205 yr by Lucifer's Hero

12 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Carlton preparing to get Saad free if trade can't be done adam-saad-preseason-draft

Even tho there are a few teams ahead of Carlton who could draft Saad it would be unlikely if he refuses to meet them or do a medical.  It would be more a Luke Ball type situation.

Some interesting posturing coming up.  Dodoro might have met his match:  Carlton have shown with Martin they can be stubborn and won't blink first!

This is glorious.

Essendon are my most hated team just to let people know so I couldn’t be happier about this.

It seems there are some loose lips around the Bombers where people have vented about him not being particularly flexible in his role and he may have cracked the sads about it being made public and rightly so.

Why you wouldn’t shut your mouth till the deal is done is beyond me. If anything, I’d be leaking how incredibly talented, hard working, positive for culture, etc he is to maximise the compensation.

The club has so much arrogance in regards to list management and had so much swagger around last year in making Daniher and Faz stay. Couldn’t be happier it’s come back to bite them on the toosh and hope they lose Saad for sweet bugger all 

20 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Carlton preparing to get Saad free if trade can't be done adam-saad-preseason-draft

Even tho there are a few teams ahead of Carlton who could draft Saad it would be unlikely if he refuses to meet them or do a medical.  It would be more a Luke Ball type situation.

Some interesting posturing coming up.  Dodoro might have met his match:  Carlton have shown with Martin they can be stubborn and won't blink first!

With Zac Williams coming in I don't think Carlton will be able to front load any contract to the same extent this year and there's more than 2 teams ahead of them in the PSD order, including Essendon and the cashed up Kangas who were also keen on Saad.

In Saad's case I'd imagine the PSD threat is an empty one.

I hate the PSD method for players to get to clubs, i personally would favour contracts for draftees being locked at a certain amount to close this loophole 

On 10/7/2020 at 8:57 AM, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Really hope that Carlton do have to pay through the nose for him after they basically got Jack Martin for free.  I'd equally be ok with this all blowing up in the face of Essendon and Carlton,  with something similar happening this year and Sadd walking basically free in the preseason draft to say someone like North or Hawthorn who could scoop him up with their first pick in the preseason draft.

I wonder if this did happen whether it'd bring in other clubs like us.

We get deals done and don't leave players hanging like Essendon do. Managers know this too. 

1 hour ago, Deeko2 said:

This is glorious.

Essendon are my most hated team just to let people know so I couldn’t be happier about this.

It seems there are some loose lips around the Bombers where people have vented about him not being particularly flexible in his role and he may have cracked the sads about it being made public and rightly so.

Why you wouldn’t shut your mouth till the deal is done is beyond me. If anything, I’d be leaking how incredibly talented, hard working, positive for culture, etc he is to maximise the compensation.

The club has so much arrogance in regards to list management and had so much swagger around last year in making Daniher and Faz stay. Couldn’t be happier it’s come back to bite them on the toosh and hope they lose Saad for sweet bugger all 

LOL @ Essendon for sure, but I'm not too thrilled about Carlton getting Martin and now potentially Saad for nothing.

Makes a completely mockery of the trade, draft & PSD period.

Dodoro doesn't want pick 7, he wants 7 first rounders.

He can get 7 GWS first rounders from Carlton!

He’s nominated Carlton as his club of choice, so he’s no longer of direct relevance to the MFC recruiting drive. 

Shipping this thread off to the Melbourne Demons Board where it will stay unless the situation changes.

Zac Williams, Saad, Dees chasing Daniher, Gaff, Andrew Brayshaw, Viney to Cats, Oliver wants out. Glad I don't read into any demonland dribble until it eventuates

56 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

Zac Williams, Saad, Dees chasing Daniher, Gaff, Andrew Brayshaw, Viney to Cats, Oliver wants out. Glad I don't read into any demonland dribble until it eventuates

Yeah, you're so level-headed, Doc.

7 hours ago, Dr.D said:

Zac Williams, Saad, Dees chasing Daniher, Gaff, Andrew Brayshaw, Viney to Cats, Oliver wants out. Glad I don't read into any demonland dribble until it eventuates

I only buy into Demonland trade rumours if there is a riddle.

Tipping this one will go down to the wire. 

 

5 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Tipping this one will go down to the wire. 

 

Well that’s just Saad

popcorn gif definitely required for the peptides this offseason

Saad is a mid first round pick at best, classic Dodo BS. Bloke is a deadset drop kick.

I'm torn on this one. I want Essendon to get nothing and I want Carlton to pay through the nose. 

 

18 minutes ago, Roger Mellie said:

I'm torn on this one. I want Essendon to get nothing and I want Carlton to pay through the nose. 

 

Or have him go to the PSD as per Carlton's plan B. Only to be greeted by Matthew Nicks holding a Welcome to Adelaide sign

That works a treat!

7 minutes ago, Go the Biff said:

Or have him go to the PSD as per Carlton's plan B. Only to be greeted by Matthew Nicks holding a Welcome to Adelaide sign

This would be my favourite outcome.

Dodoro is a waste of time. What’s the point of trying to play poker when everyone knows you’ve got a bad hand and all you can do is bluff?

 So instead anyone wanting to get out of Essendon now is clearly advised by their manager to announce it early so Dodoro can do his posturing, waste 3 weeks, and then get the deal done once the adults enter the room.