adonski 13,235 Posted October 7, 2020 Posted October 7, 2020 (edited) If pick 7 is the expectation for Saad, hopefully Oliver pisses off and nets us 14 first round picks. Edited October 7, 2020 by adonski 1 Quote
Demonstone 23,548 Posted October 7, 2020 Posted October 7, 2020 13 hours ago, KLV said: Why do so many key players want to go there? Williams, Saad and apparently Oliver, what’s the attraction? I think you've put two and two together and made 22 here, KLV. Oliver hasn't said anything about wanting to go to Carlton. Rather, a Carlton-supporting "journalist" filed a flimsy rumour that he was unhappy about his B & F placing and suggested that Carlton could do with a player such as him. Chinese whispers and MFCSS have unfortunately tricked a few people into the false belief that Oliver wants out. 3 Quote
Diamond_Jim 12,758 Posted October 7, 2020 Posted October 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said: Really hope that Carlton do have to pay through the nose for him after they basically got Jack Martin for free. I'd equally be ok with this all blowing up in the face of Essendon and Carlton, with something similar happening this year and Sadd walking basically free in the preseason draft to say someone like North or Hawthorn who could scoop him up with their first pick in the preseason draft. Saad needs to make it clear that he will leave if not traded. Probably the only way to deal with Dodoro. We could have had Langdon for free (pick wise) so it always amazed me that we didn't do a play similar to Carlton 1 Quote
John Demonic 5,988 Posted October 7, 2020 Posted October 7, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, titan_uranus said: So for Carlton it's OK to cherry pick one game and say "oh they just need a few tweaks and some more development", but for us if we played one good game all year the response would be "one swallow doesn't make a summer" and "how long have we been waiting for this so-called development for"? I guarantee if it was us who had lost late-season games, whilst in finals contention, to Collingwood (remember no one gives us any credit for beating an injury-depleted Collingwood), GWS (same deal) and Adelaide, no one on here would be referring to our "exciting brand" and no one on here would be suggesting we're just "a few tweaks" away from it. Err, we too have an exciting brand, are a few tweaks away, some new recruits and another year of development from competing, just like Carlton. Never said we weren't. The reference to Teague being approachable and friendly, and the players developing a good connection with him and his vision, is the major selling point by contrast. Teague doesn't come with the baggage of 17th and 9th AFTER making a prelim. IE he's not 4 years into a stint, under major review and have his job very much on the line like Goodwin. Harder and harder to sell hope as each year of failure passes. I thought you might be been clever enough to figure that out without jumping down my throat and sooking about me not pumping up the MFC like I did Carlton. It's obvious we have great unrealised potential as well. Edited October 7, 2020 by John Demonic Quote
Lucifers Hero 40,708 Posted October 8, 2020 Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) Carlton preparing to get Saad free if trade can't be done adam-saad-preseason-draft Even tho there are a few teams ahead of Carlton who could draft Saad it would be unlikely if he refuses to meet them or do a medical. It would be more a Luke Ball type situation. Some interesting posturing coming up. Dodoro might have met his match: Carlton have shown with Martin they can be stubborn and won't blink first! Edited October 8, 2020 by Lucifer's Hero Quote
Deeko2 865 Posted October 8, 2020 Posted October 8, 2020 12 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said: Carlton preparing to get Saad free if trade can't be done adam-saad-preseason-draft Even tho there are a few teams ahead of Carlton who could draft Saad it would be unlikely if he refuses to meet them or do a medical. It would be more a Luke Ball type situation. Some interesting posturing coming up. Dodoro might have met his match: Carlton have shown with Martin they can be stubborn and won't blink first! This is glorious. Essendon are my most hated team just to let people know so I couldn’t be happier about this. It seems there are some loose lips around the Bombers where people have vented about him not being particularly flexible in his role and he may have cracked the sads about it being made public and rightly so. Why you wouldn’t shut your mouth till the deal is done is beyond me. If anything, I’d be leaking how incredibly talented, hard working, positive for culture, etc he is to maximise the compensation. The club has so much arrogance in regards to list management and had so much swagger around last year in making Daniher and Faz stay. Couldn’t be happier it’s come back to bite them on the toosh and hope they lose Saad for sweet bugger all Quote
DeeSpencer 26,667 Posted October 8, 2020 Posted October 8, 2020 20 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said: Carlton preparing to get Saad free if trade can't be done adam-saad-preseason-draft Even tho there are a few teams ahead of Carlton who could draft Saad it would be unlikely if he refuses to meet them or do a medical. It would be more a Luke Ball type situation. Some interesting posturing coming up. Dodoro might have met his match: Carlton have shown with Martin they can be stubborn and won't blink first! With Zac Williams coming in I don't think Carlton will be able to front load any contract to the same extent this year and there's more than 2 teams ahead of them in the PSD order, including Essendon and the cashed up Kangas who were also keen on Saad. In Saad's case I'd imagine the PSD threat is an empty one. 2 Quote
Ted Lasso 19,586 Posted October 8, 2020 Posted October 8, 2020 I hate the PSD method for players to get to clubs, i personally would favour contracts for draftees being locked at a certain amount to close this loophole 1 1 Quote
Adam The God 30,706 Posted October 8, 2020 Posted October 8, 2020 On 10/7/2020 at 8:57 AM, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said: Really hope that Carlton do have to pay through the nose for him after they basically got Jack Martin for free. I'd equally be ok with this all blowing up in the face of Essendon and Carlton, with something similar happening this year and Sadd walking basically free in the preseason draft to say someone like North or Hawthorn who could scoop him up with their first pick in the preseason draft. I wonder if this did happen whether it'd bring in other clubs like us. We get deals done and don't leave players hanging like Essendon do. Managers know this too. 2 Quote
JTR 2,910 Posted October 8, 2020 Posted October 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Deeko2 said: This is glorious. Essendon are my most hated team just to let people know so I couldn’t be happier about this. It seems there are some loose lips around the Bombers where people have vented about him not being particularly flexible in his role and he may have cracked the sads about it being made public and rightly so. Why you wouldn’t shut your mouth till the deal is done is beyond me. If anything, I’d be leaking how incredibly talented, hard working, positive for culture, etc he is to maximise the compensation. The club has so much arrogance in regards to list management and had so much swagger around last year in making Daniher and Faz stay. Couldn’t be happier it’s come back to bite them on the toosh and hope they lose Saad for sweet bugger all LOL @ Essendon for sure, but I'm not too thrilled about Carlton getting Martin and now potentially Saad for nothing. Makes a completely mockery of the trade, draft & PSD period. 2 Quote
Ethan Tremblay 31,388 Posted October 8, 2020 Posted October 8, 2020 Dodoro doesn't want pick 7, he wants 7 first rounders. 1 2 Quote
defuture15 902 Posted October 8, 2020 Posted October 8, 2020 He can get 7 GWS first rounders from Carlton! Quote
Whispering_Jack 31,363 Posted October 8, 2020 Posted October 8, 2020 He’s nominated Carlton as his club of choice, so he’s no longer of direct relevance to the MFC recruiting drive. Shipping this thread off to the Melbourne Demons Board where it will stay unless the situation changes. Quote
Dr.D 1,771 Posted October 8, 2020 Posted October 8, 2020 Zac Williams, Saad, Dees chasing Daniher, Gaff, Andrew Brayshaw, Viney to Cats, Oliver wants out. Glad I don't read into any demonland dribble until it eventuates Quote
Adam The God 30,706 Posted October 8, 2020 Posted October 8, 2020 56 minutes ago, Dr.D said: Zac Williams, Saad, Dees chasing Daniher, Gaff, Andrew Brayshaw, Viney to Cats, Oliver wants out. Glad I don't read into any demonland dribble until it eventuates Yeah, you're so level-headed, Doc. Quote
Wrecker45 3,381 Posted October 8, 2020 Posted October 8, 2020 7 hours ago, Dr.D said: Zac Williams, Saad, Dees chasing Daniher, Gaff, Andrew Brayshaw, Viney to Cats, Oliver wants out. Glad I don't read into any demonland dribble until it eventuates I only buy into Demonland trade rumours if there is a riddle. Quote
Demonland 74,325 Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 Tipping this one will go down to the wire. Quote
DubDee 26,663 Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, Demonland said: Tipping this one will go down to the wire. Well that’s just Saad 1 Quote
whatwhat say what 23,807 Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 popcorn gif definitely required for the peptides this offseason 1 Quote
Demon Disciple 12,529 Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 Saad is a mid first round pick at best, classic Dodo BS. Bloke is a deadset drop kick. Quote
Roger Mellie 4,205 Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 I'm torn on this one. I want Essendon to get nothing and I want Carlton to pay through the nose. 5 1 4 Quote
Go the Biff 3,474 Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 18 minutes ago, Roger Mellie said: I'm torn on this one. I want Essendon to get nothing and I want Carlton to pay through the nose. Or have him go to the PSD as per Carlton's plan B. Only to be greeted by Matthew Nicks holding a Welcome to Adelaide sign 2 Quote
Nascent 9,345 Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, Go the Biff said: Or have him go to the PSD as per Carlton's plan B. Only to be greeted by Matthew Nicks holding a Welcome to Adelaide sign This would be my favourite outcome. Quote
The heart beats true 18,201 Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 Dodoro is a waste of time. What’s the point of trying to play poker when everyone knows you’ve got a bad hand and all you can do is bluff? So instead anyone wanting to get out of Essendon now is clearly advised by their manager to announce it early so Dodoro can do his posturing, waste 3 weeks, and then get the deal done once the adults enter the room. 1 Quote
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