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Trent Rivers Rising Star?

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3 minutes ago, Demon Jack said:

Sorry folks, all of a sudden, Sholl from the Crows might be more likely to be nominated this week. 24 touches and 2 goals against the Blues.

Perhaps this thread could be renamed "Trent Rivers, Rising Star? Without the Rising Star Nomination".

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    Deserves a nomination but there may be another player (e.g. Sholl) who played a better game this week.

    The nomination-based system for the Rising Star is dumb. 

    Anyway, the recognition is nice but it also doesn't matter much. We've seen plenty of Rising Star winners not go on with it in their careers, and vice versa.

    Let's just enjoy what we've got in Rivers, which is a young kid who has the right attitude, clear talent, and has already shown an ability and willingness to improve his game even in his first year.

    The all-too-early signs are that our 2019 draft/trade period, bringing us Jackson, Pickett, Rivers and Langdon, has been a success.

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    Rising Star is a weekly award that is bs. The last ‘star’ it captured was Selwood back in 2007.

    In it’s 27 years of identifying potentially elite players, imo only 6 have gone on to be worthy of the title (Buckley, Cousins, Goodes, Riewoldt, Mitchell and Selwood).

    Not even the likes of Judd / Hodge and Roughead / Franklin get a look in. With Koschitzke and Deledio deemed to be more ‘star’ worthy.

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    2 hours ago, Engorged Onion said:

    If only Rusty! 5 weeks without a drink, on the back of covid restrictions, whilst supporting Melbourne.... thought I'd punish myself!

    In all seriousness, it's one of the best decisions I've made in a long time, and I'm a somewhat healthy 40 something year old.

    I'm not sure self flagellation is a good idea during lockdown EO!

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    18 hours ago, Hell Bent said:

    Can't remember us recruiting a kid defender who looks as poised as Riv in his first year. His maturity is beyond his years and has not looked out if place since his first game. 

    Has already become one of those players who make you relax when he has the footy. 

    The other rivers had  the best frist year ever by a defender, that I have ever seen.

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    11 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

    Deserves a nomination but there may be another player (e.g. Sholl) who played a better game this week.

    The nomination-based system for the Rising Star is dumb. 

    Anyway, the recognition is nice but it also doesn't matter much. We've seen plenty of Rising Star winners not go on with it in their careers, and vice versa.

    Let's just enjoy what we've got in Rivers, which is a young kid who has the right attitude, clear talent, and has already shown an ability and willingness to improve his game even in his first year.

    The all-too-early signs are that our 2019 draft/trade period, bringing us Jackson, Pickett, Rivers and Langdon, has been a success.

    More often then not the winner has a good career. 

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    12 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

    Deserves a nomination but there may be another player (e.g. Sholl) who played a better game this week.

    The nomination-based system for the Rising Star is dumb. 

    Anyway, the recognition is nice but it also doesn't matter much. We've seen plenty of Rising Star winners not go on with it in their careers, and vice versa.

    Let's just enjoy what we've got in Rivers, which is a young kid who has the right attitude, clear talent, and has already shown an ability and willingness to improve his game even in his first year.

    The all-too-early signs are that our 2019 draft/trade period, bringing us Jackson, Pickett, Rivers and Langdon, has been a success.

    xx* xx
    2018 Jaidyn Stephenson Collingwood Forward/mid 26* 38
    2017 Andrew McGrath Essendon Defender/mid 41* 6
    2016 Callum Mills Sydney Defender 55* 2
    2015 Jesse Hogan Melbourne Key forward 71* 152
    2014 Lewis Taylor Brisbane Midfielder 107* 85
    2013 Jaeger O’Meara Gold Coast Midfielder 71* 44
    2012 Daniel Talia Adelaide Key defender 164* 6
    2011 Dyson Heppell Essendon Midfielder 151* 55
    2010 Daniel Hannebery Sydney Midfielder 208* 95
    2009 Daniel Rich Brisbane Lions Midfielder 183* 102
    2008 Rhys Palmer Fremantle Midfielder 123 95
    2007 Joel Selwood Geelong Midfielder 272* 152
    2006 Danyle Pearce Port Adelaide Midfielder 258 127
    2005 Brett Deledio Richmond Utility 259* 191
    2004 Jared Rivers Melbourne Defender 194 18
    2003 Sam Mitchell Hawthorn Midfielder 329 71
    2002 Nick Riewoldt St Kilda Key forward 336 718
    2001 Justin Koschitzke St Kilda Ruck/forward 200 247
    2000 Paul Hasleby Fremantle Midfielder 208 131
    1999 Adam Goodes Sydney Utility 372 464
    1998 Byron Pickett North Melbourne Midfielder/defender 204 177
    1997 Michael Wilson Port Adelaide Midfielder/defender 192 51
    1996 Ben Cousins West Coast Midfielder 270 217
    1995 Nick Holland Hawthorn Key position 179 239
    1994 Chris Scott Brisbane Bears Defender 215 79
    1993 Nathan Buckley Brisbane Bears Midfielder

    List of winners not many duds

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    19 hours ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

    Has already made a half back flank his own but i reckon he has all the traits to be a seriously good mid as his tank improves. 

    I'll go one better as a midfielder and also a get out of jail firward (Kenny Hunter Carlton style).

    Also he will be a Melbourne Captain Within 5 years 

    No pressure Riv 

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    18 hours ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

    Yup, hes too good to be sitting in a back pocket minding  a player.  Will be a very attacking half back or a winger.

    Well if Goody played our best back pocket Riv would be on a HB flank 
    ( not so sure he wasn't on HB flank last night actually) Reckon Nev was minding Daniels most of the night nearer the goals.

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    Just now, 58er said:

    Well if Goody played our best back pocket Riv would be on a HB flank 
    ( not so sure he wasn't on HB flank last night actually) Reckon Nev was minding Daniels most of the night nearer the goals.

    BTW Locky is our best back pocket!!

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    Reckon Rivers had this week in the bag until this Crow lad came along. Oh well there’s always next week and he’s probably still eligible next year. His time will come. He’ll probably end up playing 300 games and be captain so ...

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    21 hours ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

    Yup, hes too good to be sitting in a back pocket minding  a player.  Will be a very attacking half back or a winger.

    Looks like a winger to me

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    So Rivers kicks the winning goal in a tough elimination finals type game and he misses out.  Surely you have look beyond the pure stats. Even Rivers spoil in the last 15 seconds showed his heart and toughness to match his skill and run.

     Sholl played a good game in a match that counted for nothing really.  

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    On 9/13/2020 at 12:04 AM, dazzledavey36 said:

    Claimed him as my boy from from the moment we drafted him.

    Have been saying that while all the draft hype was on Jackson and Pickett, this is is as good if not better then both. 

    Absolute steal who i rated in the top 20.

    Spot on. Seems to have a great balance of competitiveness and composure, well beyond his years.

    Can see him pushing into the midfield once he develops his tank, and, being really, really damaging. 

     

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    I thought they looked at a data range of games in the recent past, i.e. not just this week in making their decision.

    Typical of the AFL to pick and choose. Swing like a rusty barn door on one hinge in the wind. I can see the internal decision making process now - if we give it to the Crows, it builds some hope over the off season that they've got a good up and coming list....blah blah blah   

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    Quaynor getting the nomination is a joke. Rivers and Scholl were significantly better than him this week. Also if you're looking at body of work Rivers and Quaynor have basically the same stats this season.

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    Ridiculous decision that makes a mockery of this award. Rivers won us the game. Quaynor got pantsed by his opponent and had 17 touches

    wouldnt have minded Sholl getting it but Quaynor???  wtf

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    What a joke!! Quaynor.  
     

    1- Rivers kicks the winning goal in a tough elimination finals type game and he misses out.  Rivers kicks two crucial goals.  Even Rivers spoil in the last 15 seconds showed his heart and toughness to match his skill and run.

    2- Quaynor got 17 possessions against Rivers 16 possessions.   Often running past for a handball.  Trent Rivers got 8 contested possessions compared to Quaynor 4 contested. 

    3- Sexton kicks 3 goals in the first quarter on Quaynor who gets moved.  Somehow that must have been missed !! 

     

    There is bias in the decision. Just my opinion. 

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    They're pretty consistent with the way they judge these.

    Form across multiple weeks outweighs one big game. To be honest, I don't mind it.

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