POSTGAME: Rd 14 vs St. Kilda

[Nasher 33,607]

Soooooo, I was out and didn’t see a second of this game. I gather it went okay? ?

[leave it to deever 17,510]

11 hours ago, Pollyanna said:

Massive win. What a great effort against all odds. Petracca vs St.Kilda -how sweet that is.

Interesting that Trac was pretty quiet in the doggies game. He excelled in the 3 games before it.

Last night he didnt totally dominate (15 Disposals v average of 25 in the previous 3 wins) but he was lethal with his disposal with 4 great goals.

He really is becoming elite and a big factor of our wins. One commentator expressed joy in his new ascendency. We have all been waiting for it. To be honest he hasnt been a great player in the past (above average) but I feel he will continue to be more and more like Dangerfield and be a major part of future success.

Apologies to the poster I corrected in calling for Trac to spend more time up forward (my suggestion was Oliver for this as he is a or was a more accurate kick). You were correct.

Full credit to Trac for fixing this part of his footy. That first goal was a beauty only to be surpassed by his last.

I also sense he cares about the club and not just the $.

Thanks Christian.

[leave it to deever 17,510]

With May in the backline and Trac in the middle maybe Weid will rise to the occassion and become elite as well? The other two have taken some time before reaching new heights.

This is not a criticism of SW as he has been good. That 2nd goal of his was a glimpse of his huge talent. Just hoping that he will become a super full forward or chf. Most premiership sides have a 60 goal plus star forward.

I know we have Jackson but should we go shopping for a big forward star like we did with May for our backline?

 

 

Edited August 29, 2020 by leave it to deever

[Jack7 528]

We lost the game after quarter time but will take a FIFO win anytime,Jones's 2 turnover goals nearly cost us.

Big Ups to Maxy,May and Trac.

Should finish 6th now,above Pies and Saints.

 

 

[leave it to deever 17,510]

22 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Soooooo, I was out and didn’t see a second of this game. I gather it went okay? ?

Yes and no.

[Lord Nev 13,512]

4 minutes ago, Jack7 said:

Jones's 2 turnover goals nearly cost us.

2?

[Balance Demon 92]

Decided I would have a Scotch before the last quarter and went to bed. 

Not much change from the Bullies game; other than they played more man on man football to stop the Saints run. This is why the Saints were held up so often in their attempt to move the ball quickly.

Smashed in the centre again. Nothing new in that space. I would simply say to Gawn don't bother jumping mate and be the additional ground ball player. The midfield group have very little ability to move/release the ball to another player with and prefer to try and barge through (Viney) when it is in their best interest to knock it forward.

River's, he is a good player. Loved the way he is able to play the ground ball. Rather than drag it in and lay on the ball. He hands it to the opposition then knocks it out of their hands and repeats until a ball up is called.

Once again the ball carrier is not protected with blocks, and is constantly in danger from own fire because everyone wants to get a touch. Why not tackle or run into our own players? Seems like a plan. 

We play a much better game when Jackson is in the side. As far as I am concerned is a much better and smarter footballer now than the King brothers. The commentators were having some form of erotic verbal moment every time he went near the ball. Taylor got this selection 100% correct and the Rivers well, as I mentioned before, the boy has an IQ and can play!

Edited August 30, 2020 by Balance Demon
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[John Crow Batty 8,860]

18 minutes ago, Jack7 said:

We lost the game after quarter time but will take a FIFO win anytime,Jones's 2 turnover goals nearly cost us.

Big Ups to Maxy,May and Trac.

Should finish 6th now,above Pies and Saints.

 

 

A bigger concern for Jones than his turnovers is that he can’t  play out a full game. Again he failed to get a possession in the last quarter and spent the last 10 minutes on the bench. Been happening all season as well as most of last season. We can get away with it during the regular season but will kill us if we get into the finals.

Edited August 30, 2020 by america de cali

[godees 858]

11 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

vandenBerg, Hannan, Jones and Pickett laid 3 tackles between them.

I love vandenBerg's intent but if he's not tackling, I'm just not sure why he's playing.

I'd like to see the pressure act stat (does anyone know if it's available anywhere), as I'm sure the FD look at it, and it might be what keeps Pickett in the side.

 

[titan_uranus 24,963]

10 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Brown and Tomlinson were both ordinary until the last 10 minutes or so. Tomlinson was better down back when Hibberd went off. Brown hit the wings for a few crucial impacts late in the game, and yeah was better than his predecessor.

Rivers and Wagner at half backs were both very solid.

Again, Tomlinson was better than you're ever prepared to give him credit for.

Defended his part of the ground well, and then gave us options coming out of defence. Also thought he put his head over the ball more than in other weeks.

Brown I thought was just OK. Can't see how he was any worse than TMac so I'd be keeping him in.

9 hours ago, A F said:

Gee, it was good kicking straight. Weideman and Petracca nailing the goals that they did were clutch.

Fritsch will have a bit of trouble getting back into the team with his unreliable kicking, lofty 13 tackles and 11 1%ers for the year.

You're joking re: Fritsch, right?

[Mr Steve 3,820]

26 minutes ago, Jack7 said:

We lost the game after quarter time but will take a FIFO win anytime,Jones's 2 turnover goals nearly cost us.

Big Ups to Maxy,May and Trac.

Should finish 6th now,above Pies and Saints.

 

 

Need to finish 6th or its a likely trip back to WA to play the Eagles.

[DemonOX 8,779]

The goal umpire was never 1 meter from wheee the call went through and called it a goal. 
 

I think he would be in the best position to make the call. 
 

All this talk is bs but gives something for the media to gasbag about and being Melb it will be even more of an issue. 

[Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,772]

1 hour ago, Hogan2014 said:

How many goals have forwards kicked on May this season? Should AA

Just showed list on Sunday Footy Show and suggested AA

[3183 Dee 2,841]

2 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

You can tell by the way Viney was walking off that he had a turtle head. 

Where I come from, that's called the "Sour Apple Quickstep'.

[Demongirl35 1,025]

Way to many turnovers and if were playing a port, Brisbane or Richmond type team they would have made us pay. I’m not taking anything away from st kilda as they’ve been a great team this season and it’s a huge win against a quality Opposition but I don’t think they have the ability to make teams pay for errors like the other teams listed above. 
 

Steven may - wow. It’s like he’s bled red and blue his whole life the way he goes about it. He’s exactly like Viney in The sense he’s not done nor satisfied until the final siren. There’s no relaxing no matter how much we are winning by. 
trac- is just Trac. What a season by him.

Fridge players in this game - i believe Wagner had a ‘okay’ game but I want us to be passed players like Wagner still being able to crack into our 22. 
Jones - I love him but he just can’t be in our 22 anymore

omac- though I do love lever and mays game more with him in it I just can’t deal. He makes my heart panic everytime he is near the ball or has the ball.

Edited August 30, 2020 by Demongirl35

[loges 6,767]

8 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Even though I tipped St Kilda by 64 points, I’ll take the win. 

Told you before Ethan you've become the kiss of death, so please keep tipping the opposition.

[BenJamin on Deesy St 805]

9 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

. . . Kossie is a pressure king! 

The stats ignore a lot of his crucial tap ons and spoils as well. 

Hopefully he settles down and just hits the crumbing spot a little slower, that's all he needs to do to get his disposals way up

Agree in part with this but I’d like to see him be more assertive (in terms of taking responsibility in possession) and actually grab the ball as his default first option, instead of doing cute flicks, tap-ons and - even last night - tunnel-balls. This will come with experience, improved awareness and confidence in own ability. Timing his acceleration in and out of contests, as you say, will help too.

[Lucifers Hero 39,320]

Oh, by the way, Goodwin looked very animated and passionate after the game ?

Unlike those that criticised his 'statuesque' demeanor in the box or at press conf, I think he cares!

Edited August 30, 2020 by Lucifer's Hero

[Watts the matter 1,235]

19 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Again, Tomlinson was better than you're ever prepared to give him credit for.

Defended his part of the ground well, and then gave us options coming out of defence. Also thought he put his head over the ball more than in other weeks.

Brown I thought was just OK. Can't see how he was any worse than TMac so I'd be keeping him in.

You're joking re: Fritsch, right?

Thought the same with the Fritsch comment, our half forwards couldn't have contributed much less. Vandanberg can't even change direction now, so can't isn't able to apply any pressure despite his intentions.

[Mel Bourne 4,515]

10 hours ago, Fanatique Demon said:

Pickett needs a rest. No doubt he will be great one day, but it wasn't today and is unlikely to be any day soon.

A game here and there, for sure. But I’d like to see him on the track for the most part. You’re right, he will be great one day but I think getting games into him is the fastest way to make that happen. 

He does get a bit too clever quite often, but he’s often just centimetres from pulling off some ridiculous [censored] (that mark he went up for and very nearly took down would have been a MOTY contender),  the kind of stuff that spooks the opposition and gives huge confidence to his side. I’d like him to hone his timing and balance playing AFL, not scratch matches. 

Edited August 30, 2020 by Mel Bourne

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

14 minutes ago, Watts the matter said:

Thought the same with the Fritsch comment, our half forwards couldn't have contributed much less. Vandanberg can't even change direction now, so can't isn't able to apply any pressure despite his intentions.

Harmes and/or Harley a must in for AVB and/or Jones imho.  We need some extra run and finish on the outside and the odd goal from either when they push forward.

Our defence is rock solid.  It's this outside / forward craft area that needs urgent tweaking to take things to another level on the scoreboard.  Too much is being left to Tracc and that's not going to get us a winning score or out of jail card much of the time against the better clubs.

[Half forward flank 1,022]

Anyone else think the fact Goody had to coach from the boundary was a blessing in disguise. he really engaged with the players on interchnge and directed players on the field as well. Great work. Credit where due.

[nosoupforme 3,085]

Steven May completely shut Max King out of the game. As we all know he played a blinder. Not only did he keep King to 3 possessions but  May was so filthy on himself for letting  King  kick a goal on him. 

That is how determined he is at the moment. Well done Maysie you are having a great season so far and there is no stopping you.

 

 

[Sir Why You Little 36,909]

12 minutes ago, Half forward flank said:

Anyone else think the fact Goody had to coach from the boundary was a blessing in disguise. he really engaged with the players on interchnge and directed players on the field as well. Great work. Credit where due.

Absolutely. I love seeing him down there directing traffic. 
Sitting in the Box with a blank stare helps no one. 
Richo can stay elevated and watch the wider ground

[Vagg 2,437]

2 hours ago, Dr.D said:

I want a personal apology from the afl first thing Monday morning 

Let us know if you receive it!