47 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Well the ins have mostly all been covered in demonland speculation 

Smith is a surprise but I can’t see him getting a gig this week 

Good to see u changed your post Bitter. 

If wet I’d keep Jackson in over T Mac. 
mcdonald is poor below his knees. 

12 minutes ago, Billy said:

Why? Robinson’s an overrated plodder

 

Ill never forget the comments he made when playing for Carlton years back, that he enjoyed playing Melbourne because he thought we were soft

That was 9 years ago.

He wasn't wrong.

1 minute ago, DubDee said:

If wet I’d keep Jackson in over T Mac. 
mcdonald is poor below his knees. 

Very good point. That means bring jones in for vandenberg.

44 minutes ago, Roger Mellie said:

I'm not that fussed if it's Jackson or TMac. Perhaps the best wet weather footballer if it's going to be wet. Jackson will be a gun. His ground ball work is already better than TMac's but he's not really clunking them yet and a wet slog wont help. I think we'll need Jackson over the next month to give Gawn a decent chop out - not just a couple of minutes here and there. So, I'm happy if Jackson misses and comes back in on Thursday.

 

this - "best wet weather footballer"  (maybe footballers plural)

22 minutes ago, Billy said:

Why? Robinson’s an overrated plodder

 

Ill never forget the comments he made when playing for Carlton years back, that he enjoyed playing Melbourne because he thought we were soft

I hope Viney smashes him into the ground this week!

 

Edited July 23, 20205 yr by Pates

10 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

That was 9 years ago.

He wasn't wrong.

Ah good old Bruise Free Footy, still would enjoy seeing Viney smash him into the ground (fairly of course ?). 

Bring tmac in put him on the wing and play second ruck. Try to play him in to form by getting his hands on the ball.

22 minutes ago, deelusions from afar said:

I watched last week's game again and couldn't see the turnovers from Lockhart that everyone talks about.  I saw them in our match v Geelong (or maybe it was v the Tigers).  He doesn't get a lot of the ball but has all the attributes to be a good small defender.  I thought there was a couple of plays last week that he made the right gutsy calls to leave his opponent and impact the contest which lead to a score for us - I think he wouldn't have been credited with a possession though.

With the setups of most forward lines, there's room for him and Jetta at the  moment.

Interestingly, I felt he was scared of contact where he could have marked it and Wingard got his running in to goal, goal. That was my first response and after looking at the replay, it still felt the same. I'm all for players developing capacity - and clearly the FD see a range of other things that I am not. But, good luck to the bloke.

1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

So no Stef Martin.....that is a big blow for the Lions. Oscar mcInerny to ruck?

I'd leave Jackson out and bring in Jones and Neal-Bullen. If its going to be a slog we want runners.

 

Tend to agree; I'd also think that Salem could be rested this week - for him, there have been a few pedestrian efforts across the last couple of games (and all players in a competitive, almost full list, should be 100% mojo-equipped).

That could provide a role for someone on the bench at half-back flank. Jetta possibly could be reviewed, as well but he did a fair job across the game last week - it was not just as decisive as we know The Jet to be on game day.

My preferences for the bench / onfield rotations would therefore be:

• Jones,
• Jackson,
• Tomlinson (particularly for flank run and carry), and
• Neal-Bullen.

Brayshaw would be my preferred slot for Salem on the HBF.

Another reason for these selections, in my view, is that these players could provide multiple roles in various positions against varied opponents across the ground. Smith is also worthy of consideration .... 

However, whilst this is the nominated team on a Thursday night, the actual playing slots will vary somewhat.

Edited July 23, 20205 yr by Deemania since 56

55 minutes ago, Jaded said:

Massive blow for the Lions with Martin out. Could potentially see Jackson dropped which would be a real shame. 
 

Lions have been playing two rucks all season.

Mostly Martin/McInerney but in the couple of rounds a few weeks back when Martin was out injured they brought in Archie Smith to pair up with McInerney.

1 hour ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Well the ins have mostly all been covered in demonland speculation 

Smith is a surprise but I can’t see him getting a gig this week 

I would settle for just Tomlinson onto a wing for AVB. Jackson stays in but takes a break for the next match on Thursday and TMac comes in. I can’t see first year players being able to front up every 4 days! There needs to be revolving selection of a group of younger players over the next 4 or 5 weeks. 

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I wonder if Jetta is in trouble? I thought he was okay last week.

They could bring in a McDonald/Tomlinson/ANB for Vanders and Jetta.

Agree Daz did his job But showing signs.

Love Nev, have met his parents and a more loyal family you could never find!

Nev himself ... Ripper Bloke!

We are playing Sunday night, and then back at it Thursday night vs Port. 

I think LJ will be rested this weekend so he can be cherry ripe for Thursday.  Would be very hard for an 18 year old ruck to play off such a short break.  Stefan Martin being out has made the choice an easier one.

 

Bench

T McDonald, Jones, Jetta, Brayshaw

Edited July 23, 20205 yr by Pickett2Jackson

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

Tomlinson could come in to man Robinson on the wing. 

The all-day runner, Tomlinson. If sighted by our defenders, he could open a reasonable gateway to the forwards, rather than our reliance on Gawn EVERY time. 

36 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

That was 9 years ago.

He wasn't wrong.

No he wasn’t wrong, but still didn’t need to be a smart [censored].

He played for Carlton in such a successful era haha 

 

18 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Tend to agree; I'd also think that Salem could be rested this week

Salem won't be rested this week as he is named in the starting 18.  The final four players will come from the extended interchange.  It's the same every week.

Max has monstered his opponent the past 2 weeks, now he goes against a second stringer, it's a big advantage.

With the forecast of rain Id bring in Tomlinson, keep Tmac fresh for next Thursday.

It is heavy rain forecast all week end the oval will be chopped up badly.  Bring in a big runner that can play big minutes so we can ease workload on others

Jones for VDB

Initially I was leaning towards TMac for Jackson but then I started questioning it. The only reason to bring him in is experience and a bigger body. If it's wet he's not likely to be clunking more marks than Jackson, Jackson is better below his knees and also offers a proper chopout for Maxy in the ruck. Keep Jackson in for this one then rest him against Port and bring in TMac then.

1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Jones for VDB

Initially I was leaning towards TMac for Jackson but then I started questioning it. The only reason to bring him in is experience and a bigger body. If it's wet he's not likely to be clunking more marks than Jackson, Jackson is better below his knees and also offers a proper chopout for Maxy in the ruck. Keep Jackson in for this one then rest him against Port and bring in TMac then.

Makes sense..my thinking re Tom Mac was that he could use his strength to bring the ball to ground whereas both Weid and Jackson can be questionable in that regard.

Jackson's ground play is very promising as is his ruck follow up... reminded me of a young Natanui

1 hour ago, DemonOX said:

Good to see u changed your post Bitter. 

Which post ox ? Or have I had too many Shiraz?

36 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

I would settle for just Tomlinson onto a wing for AVB. Jackson stays in but takes a break for the next match on Thursday and TMac comes in. I can’t see first year players being able to front up every 4 days! There needs to be revolving selection of a group of younger players over the next 4 or 5 weeks. 

Well my good Earl it will indeed be interesting to see how the compressed fixture is handled 

You’d  reckon training and rehab will be tailored for this. They’re not going to do Tom Haffey style post drawn grand final floggings So I reckon there won’t be large numbers of changes week to week 

I probably should open up a seperate thread for this but why is harmes no longer being used as a tagger or is he and i just haven't noticed.

i think we could all agree that he plays his best footy as a tagger and certainly not across the half back flank. 

I would love to see him shut down Neale on sunday, and simply tag the shït out of him. 

as for the team, i would think that one of jonesy or tomlinson comes in for vanders. 

12 minutes ago, Tom Dyson said:

I probably should open up a seperate thread for this but why is harmes no longer being used as a tagger or is he and i just haven't noticed.

i think we could all agree that he plays his best footy as a tagger and certainly not across the half back flank. 

I would love to see him shut down Neale on sunday, and simply tag the shït out of him. 

as for the team, i would think that one of jonesy or tomlinson comes in for vanders. 

hasn't been across the back flank for a host of games now

he's a midfield rotation who can play forward as well at the moment