TEAMS: Rd 06 vs Gold Coast

[Demon17 5,188]

Just now, ArtificialWisdom said:

Nor have i but i believe he is swinging an axe

Obvious . Thanks.  Much appreciated.

[Bates Mate 4,487]

4 minutes ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

Didn’t see last game, but thought Tomlinson has been serviceable last few weeks, bit stiff?

Shades of the Mecano Man Ben Holland the way he moves and speed to execute his kicks. Not ideal for a wingman. I think we need to trial him down back if Oscar can't hold his spot. He was very good for GWS at chb a few years ago

[Tom Dyson 1,633]

Tomlinson quite stiff to miss but he hasn't been anywhere near where I think we expected him to be. 

Could O'mac coming in possibly mean my prediction/desire to see Steven May in the forward line come true?

[Leoncelli_36 2,264]

Agree with a lot of the changes, but reckon Rivers is far better than Lockhart and I would have liked to see Hunt used elsewhere. He has been good this year with the limited supply. Hardly think he has been part of the problem this season. Also, Melksham and AVB are very lucky to hold spots. Acid test this week for the FD and Goody

[WA Demon Boy 966]

1 minute ago, Watts the matter said:

Nope, has been exactly as expected and why I was disappointed we chased him. Lacks urgency/intesity in contested situations, takes to long to move the ball when marking it and then does nothing with his kicks. The only time he did something noteworthy was the accidental pass to Hunt against Carlton. The amount of times he has made good position and then dropped marks against undersized opponents is infuriating. 

 

I'd play Rivers ahead of AVB and Tomlison then

Will be focusing on AVB this week and could easily get exposed with GC pace 

 

[old dee 23,791]

12 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

All omitted too. Tomlinson is a big out for him.

 

His kicking is poor not that be didn't have plenty of mates.

[Demongirl35 1,053]

6 minutes ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

Didn’t see last game, but thought Tomlinson has been serviceable last few weeks, bit stiff?

Not after last weeks game that’s for sure!

way to many times he could have attacked the ball instead he stopped. Great crash and bash moments were it could have resulted in the ball dropping to the ground but instead Richmond player marked it or hit it to advantage 

[Demon Dude 425]

favourites AVB and Melksham survive yet again, no surprise. that fwd line looks a bit slow to me. i would of liked another quick forward in the mix at Melkshams expense. instead it looks like we expect first year player Pickett to do the pressuring all on his own again. burnout the likely outcome for him.

[spalding 1,128]

It will be very interesting to see if lever’s form improves significantly with omac in instead of Smith. 

[Pates 9,660]

Tommo out is a big call but I like it, he hasn't done a hell of a lot except do some absolutely bog ordinary turnovers. Rivers is maybe a little unlucky but I'm ok with him coming out for Jetta who I still feel has much to give this year.

In fact really I'm happy with all the changes. I think Oscar has deserved a recall and was actually hard done by to be dropped after playing quite well in the west. Bennell and Weid coming in had to happen, I think there would've been such a big outcry from the footy world that Goodwin wouldn't have anywhere to hide.

For me all of these Ins/Outs address the issues I've been talking about:
Hunt for Weid - Ineffective Mid forward for a tall (hopefully) marking forward
Tommo for Bennell - Poor disposal inside 50 for good decision making and good kicking
Smith for Oscar - Defensive structure which I think hasn't looked right since Smith came in
Rivers for Jetta - Perhaps the only one hard done by but we regain experience and usually a good kick/decision maker

I also think Rivers may be a victim of Pig returning to some form, hopefully Hibberd continues to play well.

One thing I want to see now is Sam get a clean run at it, baring him getting 1 possie and giving away a 50m penalty (basically a Spargo WC game) I think he should stay in to be given an opportunity to gel with the picked 22. I would also like to see him only take forward 50 rucking duties with TMac being the chop out ruck (and rest Gawn in the forward line for periods). 

For me this is a lot more like what I think our best 22 should look like.

[rolling fog 1,207]

Agree in most part with the changes. Tomlinson is a bit stiff to miss and less so Rivers, hope that they're just being managed. 

[Demons11 7,014]

11 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

Can’t believe AVB gets another game. Tomlinson is obviously another recruitment bust. Bah humbug!

Based on being dropped? 

[BW511 2,669]

Milkshake and AVB must be very good trainers

[WA Demon Boy 966]

1 minute ago, Pates said:

Tommo out is a big call but I like it, he hasn't done a hell of a lot except do some absolutely bog ordinary turnovers. Rivers is maybe a little unlucky but I'm ok with him coming out for Jetta who I still feel has much to give this year.

In fact really I'm happy with all the changes. I think Oscar has deserved a recall and was actually hard done by to be dropped after playing quite well in the west. Bennell and Weid coming in had to happen, I think there would've been such a big outcry from the footy world that Goodwin wouldn't have anywhere to hide.

For me all of these Ins/Outs address the issues I've been talking about:
Hunt for Weid - Ineffective Mid forward for a tall (hopefully) marking forward
Tommo for Bennell - Poor disposal inside 50 for good decision making and good kicking
Smith for Oscar - Defensive structure which I think hasn't looked right since Smith came in
Rivers for Jetta - Perhaps the only one hard done by but we regain experience and usually a good kick/decision maker

I also think Rivers may be a victim of Pig returning to some form, hopefully Hibberd continues to play well.

One thing I want to see now is Sam get a clean run at it, baring him getting 1 possie and giving away a 50m penalty (basically a Spargo WC game) I think he should stay in to be given an opportunity to gel with the picked 22. I would also like to see him only take forward 50 rucking duties with TMac being the chop out ruck (and rest Gawn in the forward line for periods). 

For me this is a lot more like what I think our best 22 should look like.

thoughts on Hunt as the other winger? 

[Pates 9,660]

Just now, BW511 said:

Milkshake and AVB must be very good trainers

Both are very lucky. I had Hunt or Melksham being dropped and AVB being on notice. Both should be told their spot in the 22 is on the line this week.

[Maybe next year 170]

1 minute ago, BW511 said:

Milkshake and AVB must be very good trainers

Agree.  Melksham is apparently the forward line leader so he was always going to be given more time. AVB may be given the license to kill mad if he can regain his form of years ago can be a bold selection. Personally though I would have dropped him and brought in ANB. Overall I’m happy with changes

[Pates 9,660]

1 minute ago, MF-C said:

thoughts on Hunt as the other winger? 

I have often thought that Hunt could be a good winger for us given his pace but he just doesn't seem to get enough of the ball. Even when he's put into spots where he really should get it.

I feel like Hunt is in a similar position to Spargo in that I actually don't know where he fits into the side.

[whatwhat say what 22,757]

my goodness, a forward line built around two key forwards! who'da thunk it?!??

i don't care it it doesn't work - i personally expect gc17 to be far too quick and skilled for us - but at least it's a proper structure

Edited July 9, 2020 by whatwhatsaywhat

[Deemania since 56 6,639]

17 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/740069

Great selections!

 

It might be expected that these are not the starting team slots. There are big and small gaps in the skills for position - and form. However, it is also hoped that these personnel can be more effective - and this team listing is just a decoy for what will be utilised. The bench holds some potency and some of those on the field selections might well start the game or expend significant time during the game comfortably bum-warming as the match progresses. 

[ProperDee 1,698]

Bit harsh on AVB guys.  Deserves a few games to find some touch after what he has endured. Adds some much needed physicality when on song. He will have more than a few oppo players looking over their shoulder. 

[chook fowler 19,459]

6 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Based on being dropped? 

It’s not exactly a ringing endorsement 

[CHF 2,738]

I would have retained Tomlinson in the team ahead of VdB as he would give us more flexibility to cover ruck chop out.

As it is, it looks as if Wiedeman will cover Gawn for a while in the ruck each quarter. that being the case I want to see Gawn out of the goal square when not rucking.

In my view, the inclusion of OMac will allow Lever to play his natural game with a bit more freedom and confidence.

[John Demonic 5,796]

[Salems Lot 2,535]

Not unhappy at all, kossie on the bench gives the extra forward pace

[Pates 9,660]

4 minutes ago, Pates said:

Both are very lucky. I had Hunt or Melksham being dropped and AVB being on notice. Both should be told their spot in the 22 is on the line this week.

In a different idea, thoughts on Hannan being a winger? He's quick enough, got good hands, and usually good disposal. I just question his tank given the time off he has had.