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11 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

You realize you just contradicted yourself yeah?

How?

In your initial post, you said that we could see Gawn and no Weid/Brown, with Tomlinson being back-up.  I want Weid, a recognised back-up, in so that we don't have to take Tomlinson out of his best position.

I've highlighted that Carlton did that last night (ie played without a recognised back-up ruck) and it hurt them.

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15 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

If you bothered to listen, Tommy Mc said Spargo is one the best kicks, kicking into the 50

So he will be link between mids and fwds

Thanks - I haven't seen that quote, but I saw Spargo deliver into forward 50 under pressure a few times in the 2018 finals series at the G and given his age at the time saw  potential. I also think he is a good decision maker.

Clearly Goodwin sees that his pre-season has earnt him a spot which is good to see (effort and results will be rewarded etc.. is the message here.)

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Just now, The Chazz said:

How?

In your initial post, you said that we could see Gawn and no Weid/Brown, with Tomlinson being back-up.  I want Weid, a recognised back-up, in so that we don't have to take Tomlinson out of his best position.

I've highlighted that Carlton did that last night (ie played without a recognised back-up ruck) and it hurt them.

You said it 'bit Carlton on the [censored]' when the fact is they won more of the ball, scored more and outscored their opposition once Kreuzer went off (which you admitted to saying they were more competitive).

Your statement is not factual.

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1 minute ago, JakovichScissorKick said:

I believe in Charlie Spargo.

 

As do I 

Watching Richmond last night a large majority of the delivery to their key fwds or mid sized fwds were from smaller players. 

Spargo doesn't need to jailing goals (always a bonus). He needs to be hitting up forward on the [censored] and applying pressure i50. 

ANB has to do the same. Although his kick is questionable at times...

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10 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

You said it 'bit Carlton on the [censored]' when the fact is they won more of the ball, scored more and outscored their opposition once Kreuzer went off (which you admitted to saying they were more competitive).

Your statement is not factual.

Hit outs;

Richmond - 41 to Carlton - 26

Clearances;

Richmond - 30 to Carlton - 33

If you watched the game, you would've seen Cripps almost single-handedly dragged them back in to that match with 10 individual clearances.

Facts enough?

 

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Just now, The Chazz said:

Hit outs;

Richmond - 41 to Carlton - 26

Clearances;

Richmond - 30 to Carlton - 33

If you watched the game, you would've seen Cripps almost single-handedly dragged them back in to that match with 10 individual clearances.

Facts enough?

I watched the game mate.

Again, you said it 'bit Carlton the [censored]'.

Last time I checked, games were decided by scores not hitouts. Carlton outscored the reigning premiers in the second half. How exactly is that being 'bit on the [censored]'?

Actually, don't answer. I'm gonna unsubscribe here as it's going nowhere. You're right, and me, the facts, stats and Adam Simpson are all wrong. Cheers.

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2 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

I watched the game mate.

Again, you said it 'bit Carlton the [censored]'.

Last time I checked, games were decided by scores not hitouts. Carlton outscored the reigning premiers in the second half. How exactly is that being 'bit on the [censored]'?

Actually, don't answer. I'm gonna unsubscribe here as it's going nowhere. You're right, and me, the facts, stats and Adam Simpson are all wrong. Cheers.

Ha, you're right, games are decided by scores, and Richmond's was more than Carlton's.

Cripps needed to shark the opposition ruck to drag his team back in to the game.  Imagine if Carlton had a decent ruckman so they could run their own plays?

And your last line?  Please.  Are you a child?  My opinion is different to yours, and I have actually proven with facts that my view makes sense.  Let's see what Simpson does this year.  Bet Nik Nat + 1 is his preferred line up.  We shall reassess at the end of the season.

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Just now, The Chazz said:

Ha, you're right, games are decided by scores, and Richmond's was more than Carlton's.

Cripps needed to shark the opposition ruck to drag his team back in to the game.  Imagine if Carlton had a decent ruckman so they could run their own plays?

And your last line?  Please.  Are you a child?  My opinion is different to yours, and I have actually proven with facts that my view makes sense.  Let's see what Simpson does this year.  Bet Nik Nat + 1 is his preferred line up.  We shall reassess at the end of the season.

Carlton had a 'decent ruckman' in the first quarter when they were outscored 2 goals to 7.

Also,  unsubscribe.

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When are the final teams announced?

We'll definitely be going small, as we rightly should. Bench of Pickett, Bedford, Lockhart and one tall. Could potentially go with 4 smalls on the bench. If Gawn gets injured or tired, we can have one of Tomlinson, TMac or OMac ruck. Pure rucks are the least important role on the ground, all they need to do is negate. Good midfielders will rove to the tap of whoever. I'd actually like to see us go in with a completely short bench and try to run the bastards off their feet. No long bombs into their backline, just run and handball. It's our only chance, as on paper they have us beat.

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12 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

When are the final teams announced?

We'll definitely be going small, as we rightly should. Bench of Pickett, Bedford, Lockhart and one tall. Could potentially go with 4 smalls on the bench. If Gawn gets injured or tired, we can have one of Tomlinson, TMac or OMac ruck. Pure rucks are the least important role on the ground, all they need to do is negate. Good midfielders will rove to the tap of whoever. I'd actually like to see us go in with a completely short bench and try to run the bastards off their feet. No long bombs into their backline, just run and handball. It's our only chance, as on paper they have us beat.

Conditions totally different but not dissimilar to how Port last season and Bombers in 2018 dismantled them and dominated the ground balls 

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18 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

When are the final teams announced?

We'll definitely be going small, as we rightly should. Bench of Pickett, Bedford, Lockhart and one tall. Could potentially go with 4 smalls on the bench. If Gawn gets injured or tired, we can have one of Tomlinson, TMac or OMac ruck. Pure rucks are the least important role on the ground, all they need to do is negate. Good midfielders will rove to the tap of whoever. I'd actually like to see us go in with a completely short bench and try to run the bastards off their feet. No long bombs into their backline, just run and handball. It's our only chance, as on paper they have us beat.

My concern with the above names are;

TMc (the player that many believe is our MVP) - taking our only tall out of our forward line to play ruck will just play in to the hands of the Eagles' key defenders

Tomlinson - we traded him to play wing, which is an area that we need he and Langdon to play as much as possible for as long as possible

OMc - will be required to play on either Darling or JK.

That's why, for me, it's a no-brainer that Weid plays on Sunday.

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55 minutes ago, Demon17 said:

Thanks - I haven't seen that quote

Unsurprising given the 'quote" was snippet of a 20 minute bit of commentary TMac did during the North Melbourne dees scratch match that was live streamed.

And to find the replay you had to search around on youtube or follow the helpful embedded videos on on that games thread. Which only trainspotters would do (i am one - even went to the game!).

Satyriconhome's snide  and dismissive 'if you bothered to listen' comment is yet another example of his frequent rudeness to fellow posters. 

 

 

 

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Brown is a bit of a surprise. I thought Weid would get the job. Looks like second ruck will be Brown. He's a better forward so it makes a bit of sense. I'm excited I think we will really take it up to them.

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Has anyone got the West Coast team?

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Thinking about it more I think T.McDonald will be the second ruck.

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