Training Ground?

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On 7/21/2023 at 11:38 PM, ElDiablo14 said:

Hate Jeelong and can't understand why they are so pampered and looked after with tax payer money.

Marginal seats all around the area

[ElDiablo14 5,053]

18 minutes ago, Mach5 said:

Someone would need deep pockets.

I’d think the facility naming rights would be a lucrative component for us to exploit irrespective of where the funding comes from.

Mind you - does Casey have such a deal? Or is it too heavily controlled by the council?

I don't recall Casey having any corporate naming. My guess is that it is being funded by local council, state gov and the club.

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18 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Presumably the 2nd oval will be in the dimensions of GMHBA given how often we are fixtured there. 

Oh Gawndy your comment had me laughing my socks off. You nailed it.

We all know that the journey down the highway is very hard for the unfortunate teams that fill Geelongs quota at GMHBA. Namely all the interstate clubs and then North, the Dogs and us. Geelong are entitled to enjoy that home ground advantage but all clubs should share in the delight of a trip down the highway.

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2 hours ago, binman said:

I think the idea is to have two ovals.

One will be the exact dimensions of the MCG.

The other can be adjusted as needed to simulate the sub standard, non elite ground the MFC might have to play on:

• Kardinia Park with it's non existent wings and 50 metre arcs that meet in the centre circle
• Boggy Tassie grounds with added wind turbine for verisimilitude
• Tiny, ammo standards grounds to simulate Cairns and Darwin with added ground water and humidifier for verisimilitude
• See above for the Gabba
• Beautiful ground with a branch from a gum tree over hanging the boundary line to simulate the Alice with added flood water and lifting turf to replicate once in century flood events
• A postage stamp ground to simulate Docklands with added capacity to dim the light towers as required to replicate the terrible lighting at a ground remarkably built in the last 30 years (they have contingency plan if finance becomes an issue - train at dusk and don't turn the lights on at all)
• The exact dimensions of Optus oval - just for feel good vibes when needed

No stone unturned. 

You forgot speakers constantly playing loud BOOS for when we play in Perth.

 

[Diamond_Jim 12,723]

I'd always thought that the Port Melbourne ground offered a good training site if you could get hold of the Australia Post site next door.

Seems as though others had similar ideas and now it's a bunfight

There have been growing tensions between footballers and cricketers over access to North Port Oval as the popularity of AFLW increases. Port Phillip Council was relying on the Australia Post site being converted to open space to relieve the pressure on the ground and keep both clubs happy.

The site was earmarked in the Andrews government’s 2018 masterplan for Fishermans Bend to be open space – a document created in close consultation with Port Phillip Council.

But Australia Post has confirmed to The Age it is in “fairly well progressed” sale discussions with the Victorian Department of Education, which is seeking to fulfil a funding commitment in the latest state budget for a new school in Fishermans Bend by 2026.

The City of Port Phillip had responded by also putting in a bid to buy the site, Australia Post confirmed.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/school-or-sports-field-state-and-council-in-absurd-bidding-war-over-fishermans-bend-site-20230807-p5duhl.html

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39 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

I'd always thought that the Port Melbourne ground offered a good training site if you could get hold of the Australia Post site next door.

Seems as though others had similar ideas and now it's a bunfight

There have been growing tensions between footballers and cricketers over access to North Port Oval as the popularity of AFLW increases. Port Phillip Council was relying on the Australia Post site being converted to open space to relieve the pressure on the ground and keep both clubs happy.

The site was earmarked in the Andrews government’s 2018 masterplan for Fishermans Bend to be open space – a document created in close consultation with Port Phillip Council.

But Australia Post has confirmed to The Age it is in “fairly well progressed” sale discussions with the Victorian Department of Education, which is seeking to fulfil a funding commitment in the latest state budget for a new school in Fishermans Bend by 2026.

The City of Port Phillip had responded by also putting in a bid to buy the site, Australia Post confirmed.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/school-or-sports-field-state-and-council-in-absurd-bidding-war-over-fishermans-bend-site-20230807-p5duhl.html

I reckon Caulfield is a far more accessible location than Port.

Poll players... think theyd prefer a geo central type locale

[binman 44,734]

Just now, beelzebub said:

I reckon Caulfield is a far more accessible location than Port.

Poll players... think theyd prefer a geo central type locale

Agree.

But I've always tgought it would be brilliant to get into the fisherman's bend area at the start of it's development phase.

Thst said, its shocking the lack of action on that front.

And caulfield, which of course has all the amenities and infrastructure (including a brilliantly located train station and mutiple bus routes) in the surrounding area, is perfectly located in terms of proximity to the traditional fan base for the dees and the Casey area (where we have a huge sunk cost).

A no brainer really.

Fingers crossed.

[Roost it far 9,803]

Caulfield would make a fantastic solution to a decades long problem

[PartyTimeJohnny 537]

Caulfield slated for announcement mid 2024- it's all moving ahead but nothing to announce yet. 

[Kent 2,920]

are there any proposed layout plans available

 

[He de mon 942]

Caulfield is great if you live south of the river, but Port Melbourne is more central, and closer to the G. It would probably be easier to make parking available as well.

[beelzebub 23,390]

41 minutes ago, He de mon said:

Caulfield is great if you live south of the river, but Port Melbourne is more central, and closer to the G. It would probably be easier to make parking available as well.

Caulfield is LITERALLY...not figuratively...but ACTUALLY  the Geo Centre of Melbourne...is does not come any more CENTRAL than Caulfield.

Parking for who...you ??   who cares..No disrespect but training facilities are about the Club and Players.  There is NO WHERE in the Port area that has the potential space that Caulfield has.  As to how amenable either is...  the Port area is easily tied up with traffic . There will be ample parking within any new development...   It will be accessible via all three modes of PT

It's time to move on from this idea of we MUST be next to Mummy G...I mean ffs...    Great Sporting Clubs around the world pick locations that afford the greatest potential to create world class facilities...they are often NO WHERE near where their so called 'heart' exists. 

Caulfield is a very rare opportunity....  if we dont do something we'll be nomadic forever.  

Edited August 16, 2023 by beelzebub

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2 hours ago, He de mon said:

Caulfield is great if you live south of the river, but Port Melbourne is more central, and closer to the G. It would probably be easier to make parking available as well.

Unless we are training during a horse race meeting which I’m tipping we wouldn’t be there is plenty of parking at Caulfield. Serviced by a public transport network and major arterial roads. Ticks all the boxes. Can’t wait for it to happen.

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5 hours ago, PartyTimeJohnny said:

Caulfield slated for announcement mid 2024- it's all moving ahead but nothing to announce yet. 

Not asking for sources… but,  from what you hear, will that announcement come with some financial backing? That bit is definitely as important as the first. 

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3 hours ago, beelzebub said:

Caulfield is LITERALLY...not figuratively...but ACTUALLY  the Geo Centre of Melbourne...is does not come any more CENTRAL than Caulfield.

i thought Glen Iris was the centre, but there you go.

I should clarify, I mean't Fishermans Bend. There is a heap of space there and plenty of potential. And it is close to the G. 

Yes it is about the club, the players the staff, and the members. And I think it is a better option than Caulfield.

Personally i couldn't care less about the car parking, but there are plenty of members who do.

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18 minutes ago, He de mon said:

i thought Glen Iris was the centre, but there you go.

I should clarify, I mean't Fishermans Bend. There is a heap of space there and plenty of potential. And it is close to the G. 

Yes it is about the club, the players the staff, and the members. And I think it is a better option than Caulfield.

Personally i couldn't care less about the car parking, but there are plenty of members who do.

i remember waverley park was supposedly near the centre, then it moved closer to casey

it's all rubbish and irrelevant, except maybe to those who live close to whatever suburb is the new flavour of the month centre-of-something.

port melbourne/fisherman's bend is a bee's nest of indecision when it comes to development and is over infested with nimbys, could take decades to unravel.

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5 hours ago, beelzebub said:

Caulfield is LITERALLY...not figuratively...but ACTUALLY  the Geo Centre of Melbourne...is does not come any more CENTRAL than Caulfield.

Parking for who...you ??   who cares..No disrespect but training facilities are about the Club and Players.  There is NO WHERE in the Port area that has the potential space that Caulfield has.  As to how amenable either is...  the Port area is easily tied up with traffic . There will be ample parking within any new development...   It will be accessible via all three modes of PT

It's time to move on from this idea of we MUST be next to Mummy G...I mean ffs...    Great Sporting Clubs around the world pick locations that afford the greatest potential to create world class facilities...they are often NO WHERE near where their so called 'heart' exists. 

Caulfield is a very rare opportunity....  if we dont do something we'll be nomadic forever.  

Yeah, my care factor is so low on this that I won’t say much but yes - this is for the effing players and staff. It’s got nothing to do with proximity to the G because that was always a dumb reason to locate a training base. It has nothing to do with getting fans there because that is the nuffiest reason (if I can use that as a pejorative adjective - and I think I can) ever conceived on this topic. 

Anyway, yay, one training base…

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8 hours ago, He de mon said:

Caulfield is great if you live south of the river, but Port Melbourne is more central, and closer to the G. It would probably be easier to make parking available as well.

Port Melbourne is similar driving time to MCG as Caulfield even if Port Melbourne is closer in terms of distance in kms.

When it come to public transport, Caulfield is much quicker to get to. Richmond Station to Caulfield Station in only 10 minutes via the Cranbourne/Pakenham line trains.

[george_on_the_outer 7,855]

21 hours ago, PartyTimeJohnny said:

Caulfield slated for announcement mid 2024- it's all moving ahead but nothing to announce yet. 

At a sponsors event in early 2021 we were told there would be an announcement by year end by the CEO. 

...still running the same line.....

[old dee 24,028]

24 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

At a sponsors event in early 2021 we were told there would be an announcement by year end by the CEO. 

...still running the same line.....

The never ending story George. I doubt I will ever see a finished product. 

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31 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

At a sponsors event in early 2021 we were told there would be an announcement by year end by the CEO. 

...still running the same line.....

Are they still talking about the MCG precinct?  I don’t really care but they do treat us like fodder. 

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46 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

At a sponsors event in early 2021 we were told there would be an announcement by year end by the CEO. 

...still running the same line.....

you mean immediately before a worldwide pandemic upended lives, livelihoods, and killed millions?

mcg precinct was a pipedream then, and the prospect of a caulfield home base is much betterer / more likely

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3 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

you mean immediately before a worldwide pandemic upended lives, livelihoods, and killed millions?

That would be early 2020, not 2021.

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4 hours ago, george_on_the_outer said:

At a sponsors event in early 2021 we were told there would be an announcement by year end by the CEO. 

...still running the same line.....

That doesn’t sound like something Pert would do...

However I’ll absolve him of all past sins once it lands.

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1 hour ago, Demon Disciple said:

That would be early 2020, not 2021.

sorry, in the midst of, then