Phantom Drafts

[whatwhat say what 23,109]

1 hour ago, Whispering_Jack said:

Patrick Cripps is a WA boy, now captain of Carlton. No problem there.

yet

[Takeittothebank 17]

Young and Stephens for me. 

[Whispering_Jack 30,949]

1 hour ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

yet

There’s always a flight risk with recruits from SA and WA but ultimately, you have to back yourself and your system in to keep good interstaters happy and invested in you. 

[spirit of norm smith 16,596]

7 hours ago, godees said:

If we want Weightman we need to split 6 or 8 with Geelong for 14 and 17 and get an extra player out of it. Doubt any other team would pick a small forward (that is not Cyril Rioli) before 15. It would be crazy to take him at 8.

Yes agreed. 

[Deecisive 1,709]

definitely like stephens, then kemp or young. if we can land martin, or bennell with sam murray then i would go with kemp because i think we could wait for him.

[1 red eye 1 blue eye 771]

Agree also, Stephens and Kemp/Young.

[Mach5 4,768]

Kemp and Stephens if at all possible I think.

Although I think we’d have to settle for Kemp/Stephens and Weightman/Gould.

Still a good return.

[Demons11 7,061]

On 10/19/2019 at 2:18 PM, Whispering_Jack said:

Chris25 from Bigfooty usually goes well with his phantom drafts. This was from last month ~

1. Matthew Rowell (178cm, 74kg from Vic Metro)
2. Noah Anderson (188cm, 86kg from Vic Metro)
3. Dylan Stephens (183cm, 69kg from SA)
4. Hayden Young (188cm, 82kg from Vic Country)
5. Tom Green (188cm, 85kg from NSW/ACT)
6. Will Gould (191cm, 98kg from SA)
7. Lachlan Ash (186cm, 80kg from Vic Country)
8. Finn Maginness (187cm, 80kg from Vic Metro)
9. Brodie Kemp (192cm, 82kg from Vic Country)
10. Luke Jackson (198cm, 94kg from WA)

11. Caleb Serong (178cm, 83kg from Vic Country)
12. Liam Henry (179cm, 67kg from WA)
13. Deven Robertson (182cm, 80kg from WA)
14. Sam Flanders (182cm, 81kg from Vic Country)
15. Cameron Taheny (185cm, 80kg from SA)
16. Fischer McAsey (195cm, 86kg from Vic Metro)
17. Elijah Taylor (185cm, 75kg from WA)
18. Cody Weightman (177cm, 73kg from Vic Country)
19. Will Day (187cm, 70kg from SA)
20. Josh Worrell (195cm, 74kg from Vic Metro)

21. Jeremy Sharp (187cm, 79kg from WA)
22. Karl Finlay (192cm, 88kg from SA)
23. Trent Rivers (188cm, 85kg from WA)
24. Darcy Cassar (183cm, 75kg from Vic Metro)
25. Cooper Stephens (188cm, 83kg from Vic Country)
26. Miles Bergman (186cm, 75kg from Vic Metro)
27. Kysaiah Pickett (170cm, 67kg from SA)
28. Jackson Mead (184cm, 83kg from SA)
29. Dylan Williams (185cm, 79kg from Vic Metro)
30. Mitch O’Neill (181cm, 70kg from Tasmania)

31. Dyson Hilder (196cm, 91kg from SA)
32. Trent Bianco (178cm, 70kg from Vic Metro)
33. Harrison Jones (194cm, 75kg from Vic Metro)
34. Harry Schoenberg (180cm, 78kg from SA)
35. Sam DeKoning (200cm, 85kg from Vic Country)
36. Mitch Georgiades (192cm, 80kg from WA)
37. Brock Smith (188cm, 81kg from Vic Country)
38. Sam Philp (185cm, 87kg from Vic Metro)
39. Jai Jackson (185cm, 80kg from WA)
40. Thomson Dow (183cm, 72kg from Vic Country)

41. Jay Rantall (184cm, 82kg from Vic Country)
42. Callum Park (188cm, 67kg from SA)
43. Joshua Shute (187cm, 73kg from SA)
44. Cooper Sharman (190cm, 80kg from Vic Metro)
45. Jake Pasini (192cm, 81kg from WA)
46. Flynn Perez (187cm, 82kg from Vic Country)
47. Nick Bryan (202cm, 87kg from Vic Metro)
48. Connor Budarick (175cm, 72kg from Gold Coast)
49. Malcolm Rosas Jnr (175cm, 70kg from NT)
50. Callum Jamieson (200cm, 81kg from WA

If Serong was still available at 11, it would be the biggest steal of all time 

[DeeSpencer 26,091]

On 10/19/2019 at 3:33 PM, whatwhatsaywhat said:

go-home factor

plus recent history of sanfl kids is that whilst they might play sanfl seniors and even in finals series / multiple premierships at senior level - see aish, toumpas, trengove - they tend to struggle at afl level

Well we can still draft Dylan Stephens, because he might’ve played for SA but I believe he’s from Red Cliffs/Mildura in Victoria. Doubt there’s a go home factor there.

I think it’s important not to overate accumulating stats in the SANFL form. Players do seem to rack up stats, but they also lacked the athleticism to play well at AFL level. If Stephens has the fitness, speed and contested ball ability there’s no reason not to take him. 

[adonski 12,613]

Can someone link me Kemp's highlights package?

[DistrACTION Jackson 9,619]

Gee Young's kicking is a thing of beauty.

Will be one of the best quarter-back style defenders in the comp

[Skuit 10,031]

22 minutes ago, adonski said:

Can someone link me Kemp's highlights package?

 

[Mach5 4,768]

8 hours ago, Demons11 said:

If Serong was still available at 11, it would be the biggest steal of all time 

Fyfe at 20?

[JakovichScissorKick 771]

New mock draft from The Roar.  geez I hope Kemp doesnt slip to Carlton at 10

https://www.theroar.com.au/2019/10/21/afl-phantom-draft-2019-an-early-top-30/

[ArtificialWisdom 4,045]

Lots of people across many threads suggesting particular players will be available at 3 but not at 8. So for my own curiousity. Where are everyone's own top 10 Phantom drafts? (Assume no trading)

Mine (At least for now):

1. (GC) Rowell

2. (GC) Anderson

3. (MELB) Young

4. (ADEL) Stephens

5. (GWS) Green (matching bid)

6. (SYD) Serong

7. (FREM) Kemp

8. (MELB) Flanders

9. (HAW) Maginness (matching bid)

10. (CARL) Ash

Thoughts: 

Adelaide puzzles me I really don't know what they'll do, personally, I think Kemp would be their best choice to build the new era around, but given the big gap to their next pick they'll struggle to go past the talented local.

Serong suits Sydney the most, with Jones on the move and Paley likely following next year but clearly they bid

With 2 late top 10 picks Freo is in the perfect position to take the punt on Kemp. Working with Fyfe would do wonders for his development

If Flanders or Serong slip to 8 I think we'd be negligent not to take them, my current list has Flanders slip. But if they're gone we'll probably as expected take Weightman

Maginness would slot right into Carltons midfield next to Cripps and Walsh, so they bid and have it matched. Before taking Ash as the ready replacement for Simpso

[Demons11 7,061]

7 hours ago, Mach5 said:

Fyfe at 20?

Ok I just exaggerated, geeezzzz

[Sydee 4,562]

8 hours ago, ArtificialWisdom said:

Lots of people across many threads suggesting particular players will be available at 3 but not at 8. So for my own curiousity. Where are everyone's own top 10 Phantom drafts? (Assume no trading)

Mine (At least for now):

1. (GC) Rowell

2. (GC) Anderson

3. (MELB) Young

4. (ADEL) Stephens

5. (GWS) Green (matching bid)

6. (SYD) Serong

7. (FREM) Kemp

8. (MELB) Flanders

9. (HAW) Maginness (matching bid)

10. (CARL) Ash

Thoughts: 

Adelaide puzzles me I really don't know what they'll do, personally, I think Kemp would be their best choice to build the new era around, but given the big gap to their next pick they'll struggle to go past the talented local.

Serong suits Sydney the most, with Jones on the move and Paley likely following next year but clearly they bid

With 2 late top 10 picks Freo is in the perfect position to take the punt on Kemp. Working with Fyfe would do wonders for his development

If Flanders or Serong slip to 8 I think we'd be negligent not to take them, my current list has Flanders slip. But if they're gone we'll probably as expected take Weightman

Maginness would slot right into Carltons midfield next to Cripps and Walsh, so they bid and have it matched. Before taking Ash as the ready replacement for Simpson

Flanders highlights are not great - looks pretty slow and his kicking isn't great - a big no from me 
Young on the other hand is a great option  

[Mach5 4,768]

My read:

Not really a fan of Flanders. I think he’ll struggle to get to 50 AFL games. Just don’t see what is exceptional about him.

Young good, but I think heavily overrated. Similar to a smaller Haynes if you’re lucky, but that’s best case scenario.

Serong has smarts, but a bit slow & small.

Kemp could be a Dangerfield or a Blake Acres, hard to gauge. Do you roll the dice on him?

Stephens will be a gun wingman, if that’s what you are after. I’d like him and I’d take him at 3.

Ash like Adam Saad. Handy, but not elite.

Weightman will be similar to Jack Higgins or a modern-day Tiprat Milne at best. Fills a long term need for us.

I’d stay away from talls. Too easy for them against little to no opposition.

I’d happily bid on and take Green also. We might be a bit heavy in terms of contested inside mids, but it’s a good problem to have & you take the quality when it’s on offer.

[Demon3 2,541]

Its Young.. then one of Stephens, Kemp or Weightman i m imagine, they are the players that fit. Assuming Serong will go at 5, 6 or 7.

[Colm 2,188]

Jeez if it worked out like that Freo would be the big winners with them getting Serong, Stephens and Henry

[Whispering_Jack 30,949]

In his expanded Phantom Draft, Knightmare predicts Melbourne will take Hayden Young  with pick 3 (not splitting the pick or nominating Tom Green) and Brodie Kemp with its next pick.

Expanded AFL Phantom Draft: Risers, sliders and new names

[deebug 1,754]

22 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

In his expanded Phantom Draft, Knightmare predicts Melbourne will take Hayden Young  with pick 3 (not splitting the pick or nominating Tom Green) and Brodie Kemp with its next pick.

Expanded AFL Phantom Draft: Risers, sliders and new names

Right on the money ?

[Mickey 4,752]

1 hour ago, Whispering_Jack said:

In his expanded Phantom Draft, Knightmare predicts Melbourne will take Hayden Young  with pick 3 (not splitting the pick or nominating Tom Green) and Brodie Kemp with its next pick.

Expanded AFL Phantom Draft: Risers, sliders and new names

This would be the best outcome. But given what Mahoney has said about drafting a small forward and Taylor's reported love of Weightman, I wouldn't be surprised if we picked him and let Kemp slide. I'd be [censored], though.

[olisik 4,060]

3 minutes ago, Good Lord George said:

This would be the best outcome. But given what Mahoney has said about drafting a small forward and Taylor's reported love of Weightman, I wouldn't be surprised if we picked him and let Kemp slide. I'd be [censored], though.

Only MFC would take a player expected to go around 15 at pick 8

[rjay 25,202]

6 hours ago, Mach5 said:

My read:

Not really a fan of Flanders. I think he’ll struggle to get to 50 AFL games. Just don’t see what is exceptional about him.

Young good, but I think heavily overrated. Similar to a smaller Haynes if you’re lucky, but that’s best case scenario.

Serong has smarts, but a bit slow & small.

Kemp could be a Dangerfield or a Blake Acres, hard to gauge. Do you roll the dice on him?

Stephens will be a gun wingman, if that’s what you are after. I’d like him and I’d take him at 3.

Ash like Adam Saad. Handy, but not elite.

Weightman will be similar to Jack Higgins or a modern-day Tiprat Milne at best. Fills a long term need for us.

I’d stay away from talls. Too easy for them against little to no opposition.

I’d happily bid on and take Green also. We might be a bit heavy in terms of contested inside mids, but it’s a good problem to have & you take the quality when it’s on offer.

What do you think of Gould 'Mach'???

I've only seen highlights but a lot to like in those...