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On 10/6/2019 at 3:19 PM, Mach5 said:

Reckon you might be right in the end.

I'll stick my neck out and agree here as well.

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Can anyone tell me, particularly Western Australians, what they think of Deven Robertson, please?

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Is it likely we will go for Serong with pick 3?

He does sound fairly enticing and will be ready to go round 1 as a small forward one would think.

Slightly concerning his height of 177cm.... but that never stopped Cyril Rioli who is the same height.

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On 10/4/2019 at 6:41 PM, pitmaster said:

At 178cm you might be on to something. Prefer a little more height thanks.

He is a gun though.

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I think the other reason we might be looking to split the pick, is to grab one of the rucks.   There is some very good early ruck talent.

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15 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

I was looking through some of the early phantom drafts and power ranking lists and noticed that there was a definite leaning or bias towards players from Victoria. 

This is despite the fact that the Under 18 NAB AFL Championships were won this year by Western Australia. In Cal Twomey’s September Draft Rankings, not a single  player from the winners made the top ten. 

Last year, it was South Australia that won the championship and that state provided three of the top five draftees. On that basis it might be worthwhile to take a closer look at the talent from WA given that state’s strengths in the national competition.

The Croweaters also did well this year and one player from their team who has attracted my eye because he has all the attributes we need in a young midfielder - a good mix both inside and out, endurance and pace and a good user of the ball. 

I think Dylan Stephens who has been mentioned by a few posters might be a player who could be in line for selection, more so if the club manages to split pick 3.

AFL Draft Wrap: SA midfielder Dylan Stephens firms as top-10 selection

Well said WJ, the WA crop this year is a very good bunch, youve got small forwards in Taylor and Henry and Taylor is a strong overhead mark. Quality players and leaders in Robertson and Rivers, Sharp is very good by foot and in decision making, whilst Jackson is a ruckman with good skills for a bigman and another leader

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3 hours ago, A F said:

Can anyone tell me, particularly Western Australians, what they think of Deven Robertson, please?

I like him  he's not a superstar but he knows how to find the footy and oozes workrate, He's not unlike Joel Selwood in terms of his leadership, desire to get the best out of himself and put his body on the line. Not quite as good but the potential is there. The Eagles and Freo would both snap him up with their second round pick. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Pennant St Dee said:

I like him  he's not a superstar but he knows how to find the footy and oozes workrate, He's not unlike Joel Selwood in terms of his leadership, desire to get the best out of himself and put his body on the line. Not quite as good but the potential is there. The Eagles and Freo would both snap him up with their second round pick. 

 

 

Thanks mate. Whenever I see a West Aussie midfielder projected to go in the mid first round that doesn't seem to get the same attention as others, I just think Cripps. The WA teams also seem to have this knack of 'hiding' some of the best WA talent.

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1 minute ago, A F said:

Thanks mate. Whenever I see a West Aussie midfielder projected to go in the mid first round that doesn't seem to get the same attention as others, I just think Cripps. The WA teams also seem to have this knack of 'hiding' some of the best WA talent.

Yeah without the TAC cup here they are able to hide them with only cameo appearances in the Champs and the PSA boys being tied to their school footy so much  you only get to see them occasionally in WAFL Colts. 

There's a lot of very good young boys starting to come through here now, the mining boom saw a big baby boom between 2004 and 2010, which co-incided with greater emphasis going into development across the board.

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On 10/6/2019 at 12:06 AM, Demon Disciple said:

I'm gonna have to politely disagree with you on that one Paulo.

fair chance your right, i just question youngs 1on1 ability and also his pace, where i like goulds aggression, overhead marking, and he is also quick for his size.

whould you rather young at pick 3

or weightman and gould if we split the pick ? 

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7 hours ago, Paulo said:

whould you rather young at pick 3

or weightman and gould if we split the pick ? 

TBH, i'm not a fan of trying to split the pick. I reckon we should try and draft Kemp (big call i know) or Young at 3 and try and try and get another pick in the top 20 and hope like hell that Weightman is still there.

Young and Weightman would help improve our kicking and small forward needs.

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Chris25 from Bigfooty usually goes well with his phantom drafts. This was from last month ~

1. Matthew Rowell (178cm, 74kg from Vic Metro)
2. Noah Anderson (188cm, 86kg from Vic Metro)
3. Dylan Stephens (183cm, 69kg from SA)
4. Hayden Young (188cm, 82kg from Vic Country)
5. Tom Green (188cm, 85kg from NSW/ACT)
6. Will Gould (191cm, 98kg from SA)
7. Lachlan Ash (186cm, 80kg from Vic Country)
8. Finn Maginness (187cm, 80kg from Vic Metro)
9. Brodie Kemp (192cm, 82kg from Vic Country)
10. Luke Jackson (198cm, 94kg from WA)

11. Caleb Serong (178cm, 83kg from Vic Country)
12. Liam Henry (179cm, 67kg from WA)
13. Deven Robertson (182cm, 80kg from WA)
14. Sam Flanders (182cm, 81kg from Vic Country)
15. Cameron Taheny (185cm, 80kg from SA)
16. Fischer McAsey (195cm, 86kg from Vic Metro)
17. Elijah Taylor (185cm, 75kg from WA)
18. Cody Weightman (177cm, 73kg from Vic Country)
19. Will Day (187cm, 70kg from SA)
20. Josh Worrell (195cm, 74kg from Vic Metro)

21. Jeremy Sharp (187cm, 79kg from WA)
22. Karl Finlay (192cm, 88kg from SA)
23. Trent Rivers (188cm, 85kg from WA)
24. Darcy Cassar (183cm, 75kg from Vic Metro)
25. Cooper Stephens (188cm, 83kg from Vic Country)
26. Miles Bergman (186cm, 75kg from Vic Metro)
27. Kysaiah Pickett (170cm, 67kg from SA)
28. Jackson Mead (184cm, 83kg from SA)
29. Dylan Williams (185cm, 79kg from Vic Metro)
30. Mitch O’Neill (181cm, 70kg from Tasmania)

31. Dyson Hilder (196cm, 91kg from SA)
32. Trent Bianco (178cm, 70kg from Vic Metro)
33. Harrison Jones (194cm, 75kg from Vic Metro)
34. Harry Schoenberg (180cm, 78kg from SA)
35. Sam DeKoning (200cm, 85kg from Vic Country)
36. Mitch Georgiades (192cm, 80kg from WA)
37. Brock Smith (188cm, 81kg from Vic Country)
38. Sam Philp (185cm, 87kg from Vic Metro)
39. Jai Jackson (185cm, 80kg from WA)
40. Thomson Dow (183cm, 72kg from Vic Country)

41. Jay Rantall (184cm, 82kg from Vic Country)
42. Callum Park (188cm, 67kg from SA)
43. Joshua Shute (187cm, 73kg from SA)
44. Cooper Sharman (190cm, 80kg from Vic Metro)
45. Jake Pasini (192cm, 81kg from WA)
46. Flynn Perez (187cm, 82kg from Vic Country)
47. Nick Bryan (202cm, 87kg from Vic Metro)
48. Connor Budarick (175cm, 72kg from Gold Coast)
49. Malcolm Rosas Jnr (175cm, 70kg from NT)
50. Callum Jamieson (200cm, 81kg from WA

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I still think Hayden Young is someone we need looking at our deficiencies... wouldnt mind Ash or Flanders. Big decisions by the club this year. Wont want to get it wrong.

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38 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

Chris25 from Bigfooty usually goes well with his phantom drafts. This was from last month ~

1. Matthew Rowell (178cm, 74kg from Vic Metro)
2. Noah Anderson (188cm, 86kg from Vic Metro)
3. Dylan Stephens (183cm, 69kg from SA)
4. Hayden Young (188cm, 82kg from Vic Country)
5. Tom Green (188cm, 85kg from NSW/ACT)
6. Will Gould (191cm, 98kg from SA)
7. Lachlan Ash (186cm, 80kg from Vic Country)
8. Finn Maginness (187cm, 80kg from Vic Metro)
9. Brodie Kemp (192cm, 82kg from Vic Country)
10. Luke Jackson (198cm, 94kg from WA)

11. Caleb Serong (178cm, 83kg from Vic Country)
12. Liam Henry (179cm, 67kg from WA)
13. Deven Robertson (182cm, 80kg from WA)
14. Sam Flanders (182cm, 81kg from Vic Country)
15. Cameron Taheny (185cm, 80kg from SA)
16. Fischer McAsey (195cm, 86kg from Vic Metro)
17. Elijah Taylor (185cm, 75kg from WA)
18. Cody Weightman (177cm, 73kg from Vic Country)
19. Will Day (187cm, 70kg from SA)
20. Josh Worrell (195cm, 74kg from Vic Metro)

21. Jeremy Sharp (187cm, 79kg from WA)
22. Karl Finlay (192cm, 88kg from SA)
23. Trent Rivers (188cm, 85kg from WA)
24. Darcy Cassar (183cm, 75kg from Vic Metro)
25. Cooper Stephens (188cm, 83kg from Vic Country)
26. Miles Bergman (186cm, 75kg from Vic Metro)
27. Kysaiah Pickett (170cm, 67kg from SA)
28. Jackson Mead (184cm, 83kg from SA)
29. Dylan Williams (185cm, 79kg from Vic Metro)
30. Mitch O’Neill (181cm, 70kg from Tasmania)

31. Dyson Hilder (196cm, 91kg from SA)
32. Trent Bianco (178cm, 70kg from Vic Metro)
33. Harrison Jones (194cm, 75kg from Vic Metro)
34. Harry Schoenberg (180cm, 78kg from SA)
35. Sam DeKoning (200cm, 85kg from Vic Country)
36. Mitch Georgiades (192cm, 80kg from WA)
37. Brock Smith (188cm, 81kg from Vic Country)
38. Sam Philp (185cm, 87kg from Vic Metro)
39. Jai Jackson (185cm, 80kg from WA)
40. Thomson Dow (183cm, 72kg from Vic Country)

41. Jay Rantall (184cm, 82kg from Vic Country)
42. Callum Park (188cm, 67kg from SA)
43. Joshua Shute (187cm, 73kg from SA)
44. Cooper Sharman (190cm, 80kg from Vic Metro)
45. Jake Pasini (192cm, 81kg from WA)
46. Flynn Perez (187cm, 82kg from Vic Country)
47. Nick Bryan (202cm, 87kg from Vic Metro)
48. Connor Budarick (175cm, 72kg from Gold Coast)
49. Malcolm Rosas Jnr (175cm, 70kg from NT)
50. Callum Jamieson (200cm, 81kg from WA

I'd be happy with anyone from 7-11 if we got them with pick 8. Young with Pick 3 would be my go to pick.

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If GWS get a pick before having to match Green, wouldn't be surprised to see them grab Jackson. I know clubs don't generally draft rucks early but they need a good one coming through and he's been likened to Grundy.

 

If Serong slips that far, I'd grab him as our small forward at 8. Still think Taylor will pick Weightman at 8, and hopefully one of Young/Stephens/Kemp at 3/6.

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1 hour ago, Whispering_Jack said:

Why?

go-home factor

plus recent history of sanfl kids is that whilst they might play sanfl seniors and even in finals series / multiple premierships at senior level - see aish, toumpas, trengove - they tend to struggle at afl level

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16 minutes ago, Good Lord George said:

If GWS get a pick before having to match Green, wouldn't be surprised to see them grab Jackson. I know clubs don't generally draft rucks early but they need a good one coming through and he's been likened to Grundy.

 

If Serong slips that far, I'd grab him as our small forward at 8. Still think Taylor will pick Weightman at 8, and hopefully one of Young/Stephens/Kemp at 3/6.

Weightman would be risky

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If we want Weightman we need to split 6 or 8 with Geelong for 14 and 17 and get an extra player out of it. Doubt any other team would pick a small forward (that is not Cyril Rioli) before 15. It would be crazy to take him at 8.

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i do like the look of stephens would certainly be happy to take him at 3. he looks as if he can give us some run around the ball and up forward.  kemp also looks good downside being his already out for the year.

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Hope they take Young & Stephens if available. Naturally they'll take both Serong & Weightman tho 🤢

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2 hours ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

go-home factor

plus recent history of sanfl kids is that whilst they might play sanfl seniors and even in finals series / multiple premierships at senior level - see aish, toumpas, trengove - they tend to struggle at afl level

Patrick Cripps is a WA boy, now captain of Carlton. No problem there.

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Kemp #3 and Gould at #8 for me. I know we don't address our small forward problem with those picks, but you don't draft for list holes, you draft for the best players.

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Young and Ash for me.

based purely on the 2 mins highlight packages 🤷‍♂️

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