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I’m not intending to stir the pot here, but I reckon we could use this guy’s skills and he’d still absolutely be in our best 22.

Watts is simply an elite user of the ball, he has great skills, and he is fundamentally an MFC man - something which I think is relevant to this club right now.

In short, there are tangible and intangible reasons to get him back to the club. 2019 was a simply pathetic season, and it was characterised by many poor decisions. Getting Watts back could demonstrate that we know we’ve made some mistakes, and that we’re above our own ego. I reckon it’d also improve our list.

As an aside, I was at the Swans B&F last night as a guest of a former Port Adelaide player who knows him. He confirmed that: (a) he’s a ripper bloke; (b) he has extreme skills; and (c) he’s much harder at the contest than a lot of spectators appreciate.

Completely unsolicited, he then told me that every club had him as the number 1 in his draft year. I know this is probably accurate because Gubby Allen also confirmed this to me a few years ago. We just developed him completely poorly.

Let’s bring this guy back to the club. We really need some more class.

PS. I rate our number 31 - I’d just like to see him and Watts operate in tandem for the red and blue.

 

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1 minute ago, Dee*ceiving said:

I am ok with it but I'd be stunned if Goody undid that statement

Got some interesting feedback on Goodwin too.

He’s a super discliplined and hard-nosed man. He may in fact be an android. In this context, I agree that there’s no way he’d reverse his decision to trade Watts.

And this is perhaps also why we finished 17th. It’s possible he only has one gear.

 

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Much as I think Jack Watts in probably a nice guy, he's rarely excelled in the hunger for agressive high level consistent performances on an AFL field. Still hasn't at Port, as far as I'm aware.

 

Pass.

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We got rid of him because he didnt work hard enough. Was happy to be a good player and didnt want to put in the hard yards.

Whether this was our fault (product of environment) or Jacks is besides the point now.

He is gone and wont be back.

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3 minutes ago, PaulRB said:

Much as I think Jack Watts in probably a nice guy, he's rarely excelled in the hunger for agressive high level consistent performances on an AFL field. Still hasn't at Port, as far as I'm aware.

 

Pass.

He was unreal against us in round one - he’s a great distributor.

Then he did his knee.

I’d like to see him as the player responsible for delivering it into our forward 50. We lost a stack of games this year even though our forward 50 entry count was higher that the oppositions.

 

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5 minutes ago, DSP said:

We got rid of him because he didnt work hard enough. Was happy to be a good player and didnt want to put in the hard yards.

Whether this was our fault (product of environment) or Jacks is besides the point now.

He is gone and wont be back.
 

All of that hard work ethos took us to 17th.

IMO an effective group requires a broad range of skill sets and personality types - some hard working, some gifted.

One thing I’ve always observed is that poor managers always simplistically reward try-hardedness and diligence over effectiveness and talent.

It’s the very reason why Mark Neeld drove a Mack truck through our list - he loved the untalented C graders who tried their guts out over those with class.

 

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33 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said:

 

As an aside, I was at the Swans B&F last night as a guest of a former Port Adelaide player who knows him. He confirmed that: (a) he’s a ripper bloke; (b) he has extreme skills; and (c) he’s much harder at the contest than a lot of spectators appreciate.

 

 

Other than giving his opinion on the matter, what exactly did he confirm?

Or did he just confirm his opinion?

 

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51 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I think part of the reason we got rid of him was a ‘culture’ thing. Regardless of whether or not we’d like him back, it won’t happen. 

Nail head

I have never professed to have inside knowledge... but Ive heard culture in afl circles is very highly rated.

What specific culture each club is lookong for i cant comment on.

Jack had a rough time at the dees and didnt deserve  lot of the criticism but i also think Jack had other prioritues which may not have helped his cause.

I highly doubt we'll see him as a player again at the dees. I am also worried for him.beyond 2020 at port. Needs a big year.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Ron Burgundy said:

I’m not intending to stir the pot here, but I reckon we could use this guy’s skills and he’d still absolutely be in our best 22.

Watts is simply an elite user of the ball, he has great skills, and he is fundamentally an MFC man - something which I think is relevant to this club right now.

In short, there are tangible and intangible reasons to get him back to the club. 2019 was a simply pathetic season, and it was characterised by many poor decisions. Getting Watts back could demonstrate that we know we’ve made some mistakes, and that we’re above our own ego. I reckon it’d also improve our list.

As an aside, I was at the Swans B&F last night as a guest of a former Port Adelaide player who knows him. He confirmed that: (a) he’s a ripper bloke; (b) he has extreme skills; and (c) he’s much harder at the contest than a lot of spectators appreciate.

Completely unsolicited, he then told me that every club had him as the number 1 in his draft year. I know this is probably accurate because Gubby Allen also confirmed this to me a few years ago. We just developed him completely poorly.

Let’s bring this guy back to the club. We really need some more class.

PS. I rate our number 31 - I’d just like to see him and Watts operate in tandem for the red and blue.

 

You're really trolling with this garbage.

You want to trade for a dud that came 21st in Ports best and Fairest in 2018?

 

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1 hour ago, Ron Burgundy said:

I’m not intending to stir the pot here, but I reckon we could use this guy’s skills and he’d still absolutely be in our best 22.

Watts is simply an elite user of the ball, he has great skills, and he is fundamentally an MFC man - something which I think is relevant to this club right now.

In short, there are tangible and intangible reasons to get him back to the club. 2019 was a simply pathetic season, and it was characterised by many poor decisions. Getting Watts back could demonstrate that we know we’ve made some mistakes, and that we’re above our own ego. I reckon it’d also improve our list.

As an aside, I was at the Swans B&F last night as a guest of a former Port Adelaide player who knows him. He confirmed that: (a) he’s a ripper bloke; (b) he has extreme skills; and (c) he’s much harder at the contest than a lot of spectators appreciate.

Completely unsolicited, he then told me that every club had him as the number 1 in his draft year. I know this is probably accurate because Gubby Allen also confirmed this to me a few years ago. We just developed him completely poorly.

Let’s bring this guy back to the club. We really need some more class.

PS. I rate our number 31 - I’d just like to see him and Watts operate in tandem for the red and blue.

 

Ron, don't you know by now???

It's all about the contest!!!

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9 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Ron, don't you know by now???

It's all about the contest!!!

Elite kicking skills are soooooo overrated.

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I remember that Sheahan bloke who does the TAC stuff showing footage of Watts in his draft year, Clearly an elite athlete but his footage just showed him, clearly taller than his opponents leading for marks at abut 35 metres out and then kicking accurately. While he looked good I was underwhelmed for a number 1 pick as there was little or no pressure from any defenders and none of him getting his own ball. Clearly remember Sheahan saying he was a certain 10  year  player as a leading key big forward. 

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35 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Ron, don't you know by now???

It's all about the contest!!!

I think the WA Clubs and other would have gone NicNat

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