Farewell Sam Frost

[Moonshadow 17,673]

Wish Frosty all the best.

Very happy with the outcome for us.

What was his contract length with Hawks?

[demoniac 1,330]

Thanks and Good Luck Frosty.

I note that the Frosty highlights package on his new club's web site don't include any highlights of Frosty playing as a Key Defender one on one in an aerial contest against a Key Forward.

[Red But Mostly Blue 4,547]

So long, Frosty!

I won't miss some of that decision making, but I will miss those wild dashes out of the backline! 

That said, I hope that whoever is on him in the future kicks 10 against him.

[Demonstone 22,261]

Can't wait to play Hawthorn just so we can all yell out "That's why we got rid of ya, Frost!".

[binman 42,544]

3 hours ago, Mel Bourne said:

I recently spent some of my precious time on earth sifting through a thread where one person said they had info about a rumoured trade, which was followed by four pages of people guessing (in vain) who it was. 

The “I know something you don’t” post, is becoming increasingly irritating  

 

 

 

Some advice. For what its worth.

Know your poster.

[Garbo 1,517]

1 hour ago, one_demon said:

Difficult to tell if it was a good trade because the jury is still out on Frost.

How many players still have a question mark at 26 years of age and turn it round. I think what we saw this year is as good as it gets for him. 

[Mydee 288]

So we let go a player who can, but kept a coach that can't

 

Pathetic

[Rab D Nesbitt 8,336]

Better to be marmite than vanilla. Thanks for the memories Frosty. 

[layzie 33,729]

Thanks for the efforts Frosty. He has a bit to offer although I think he played a bit above himself this year. All the best 

[frankie_d 1,471]

He saved the game for us against Hawthorn this year with his efforts (including a brilliant little throw) in the last 5 mins. He had desperation and he really cared. 

I'll miss him. 

 

[layzie 33,729]

Definitely struggling to see he value in his trade. Been pretty flat out this week so haven’t been quite as up with the news this week but it hasn’t passed the eyeball test with flying colours. 

Was always open to trading Frost as I felt he didn’t quite fit the plans going forward and played a ‘trade bait’ year. Thought something might have come in return that could help us instantly. Instead we’ve given up more picks and Frost for essentially a second rounder next year. 

[Dr. Gonzo 24,129]

8 hours ago, Sydee said:

We are making a big bet on two players (Lever not key position IMO and May) that have spent very little time out on the ground - hope they can play most games next year otherwise I'm not sure our back line stocks are that flash

Perhaps the club rates Petty as a better 2 to 3 year prospect than Frost - OMac well the least said the better 

May 106 of a possible 132 games between 2013-2018 (including a 5 game suspension for his bump on Martin - not sure if any other suspensions?)

Lever 67 of a possible 77 games since debut up until injuring his knee in 2018.

[Adam The God 30,105]

9 hours ago, Sydee said:

Perhaps the club rates Petty as a better 2 to 3 year prospect than Frost

They absolutely should and clearly do.

Petty is a footballer. One who understands positioning, he's a neat kick, a good decision maker and a good mark.

Frost is not an athlete who likes to run and can take a good mark. 

Talk about providing Hawthorn with a trojan horse. Is Clarko planning to move on from Hawthorn soon?

Edited October 11, 2019 by A F

[Satan 2,870]

So when we play Hawks , make sure we have the mids 30 meters in front of Frost when he does the chaos kick our 

[Adam The God 30,105]

4 hours ago, one_demon said:

Difficult to tell if it was a good trade because the jury is still out on Frost.

After 8 years on two AFL lists. And some posters here are disappointed. Absolute comedy.

[kallangurdemon 551]

a second round pick next is a surprisingly good outcome .Frosty always reminded me of Gary Cowton so his deficiencies were apparent and generally surfaced at the worst possible time .He was a trier who never wanted to leave so I wish him all the best .

 

 

 

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[DSP 1,488]

See ya Frosty.

It was always heart in mouth stuff, but you gave it all.

I'll never forget that booming kick and run and gun coming off the back line.

[Older demon 2,741]

7 hours ago, binman said:

But Rusty that is exactly what the club did - or didn't do in terms airing any dirty laundry.  I did not hear one bad word from the club about Frosty - they played it wit the deadest of dead bats. 

They handled it all expertly. Which is big reason we ave done pretty well with the trade. 

On airing any dirty laundry Go The Biff wrote this earlier:

'Interesting. A relative of mine - Demon fan - met him out & about a few weeks ago and was surprised at how readily he mouthed off about the club to a perfect stranger.'

 

Given the way he has been treated by the club no surprise. He did not want to leave and was effectively hung out to dry. Gawn is holidaying with him and did not want the club to ditch him.

Content that the club had too many backs and saw a way to balance the list but some of the unfounded rumours thrown about here are just that rumours. I wish Sam well and the chapter is closed 

[Demonland 71,228]

A Hawthorn perspective on the trade. 

 

[Yokozuna 1,004]

1 hour ago, layzie said:

Definitely struggling to see he value in his trade. Been pretty flat out this week so haven’t been quite as up with the news this week but it hasn’t passed the eyeball test with flying colours. 

Was always open to trading Frost as I felt he didn’t quite fit the plans going forward and played a ‘trade bait’ year. Thought something might have come in return that could help us instantly. Instead we’ve given up more picks and Frost for essentially a second rounder next year. 

Wondering what you would have liked from hawthorn that helps us immediately?

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

https://www.zerohanger.com/hanger-trade-grade-sam-frost-35819/amp/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=Zero%2BHanger&__twitter_impression=true

[Mydee 288]

Gave away a player who can but kept a coach who can't

[whatwhat say what 22,622]

10 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

https://www.zerohanger.com/hanger-trade-grade-sam-frost-35819/amp/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=Zero%2BHanger&__twitter_impression=true

pretty much this - hawks needed a key defender to assist and then take over from chip, we didn't want to / couldn't afford to pay him what he wants, and we wanted the picks to do other deals / maintain positions in the drafts of 2019 / 20

it's a win-win trade as it helped facilitate us getting langdon, which is much more important to us going forward as a 24 year old wingman as opposed to a 28 year old key defender in 2020

[Cards13 9,117]

17 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

In 3x the games

pBS

In a season we finished second last after making a prelim and Lewis was in his retirement season.... talk about putting a narrative together to suit your argument.

[spirit of norm smith 16,236]

1 hour ago, Mydee said:

Gave away a player who can but kept a coach who can't

Old chinese proverb!