Splitting Draft Pick 3

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Counter thinking is, it still doesn't land us a bonafide A grader.

[DeeSpencer 23,227]

Honestly leaking this is just a way to soften us up for losing pick 2.

I'd trade pick 3 for a couple of quality first rounders but they better be good. 

The Kelly for Salem-Tyson trade was a balls up because we didn't get near enough value. If it was Billings for Salem at 2-9 that's fine but we had to give 20 for Tyson as well and only got a late pick back. When we traded out pick 2 we should've got a fortune for it.

The same applies now for pick 3. If a team isn't willing to give us 2 top 10 picks then forget about it.

[Ted Lasso 16,874]

If we could somehow get Ash and Flanders for what would have been pick 3 i think that'd be a fantastic result. 

Ash in particular has a lot of the attributes we need and i really rate Flanders as a player. reminds me a bit of Jack Steven, powerful midfielder with a serious burst of speed. 

 

Ash, Flanders, Langdon, Amon, Newnes via F/A into the club and suddenly our midfield has a much better balance to it and great depth 

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2 hours ago, DubDee said:

it's fun to say 'Splitting the Pick' with an NZ accent

go on, try it!

Splutting the puck

[Pipefitter 2,024]

Why not. Worked so well last time. #facepalm

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2 minutes ago, Pipefitter said:

Why not. Worked so well last time. #facepalm

I'd agree if the conversation was around trading a pick that could land us Noah Anderson. 

but i don't think there is a clear drop off after the top 2 in this draft and not a huge cap from about 3-15 

[Lord Nev 13,511]

Rowell and Anderson are 100% GC bound. Green will be snapped up by GWS as an academy selection. That's the likely top 3 IMO and we're no chance at getting any of them, so I don't mind the possibility of trading the pick. Wonder if we'd be looking at either North or Port's first two picks as a swap, meaning we can trade our second rounder for Langdon and still have first and second round picks?

 

[olisik 4,060]

Salem Tyson Kelly all over again. Just take the damn pic rather then trying to get smart and dilute our talent.

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24 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Rowell and Anderson are 100% GC bound. Green will be snapped up by GWS as an academy selection. That's the likely top 3 IMO and we're no chance at getting any of them, so I don't mind the possibility of trading the pick. Wonder if we'd be looking at either North or Port's first two picks as a swap, meaning we can trade our second rounder for Langdon and still have first and second round picks?

 

No...

one will go to GC and one will go to a power club who will trade a 28 year old to GC and get salary cap relief at the same time.

You have to love this game.

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5 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

No...

one will go to GC and one will go to a power club who will trade a 28 year old to GC and get salary cap relief at the same time.

You have to love this game.

Nah, lock it in mate, both are off to GC.

 

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5 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Nah, lock it in mate, both are off to GC.

 

perhaps but as an aside and following the logic on this thread why wouldn't you split them for two more etc etc

Brings back memories of Sylvia and McLean not to mention the dynamic duo of Scully and Trengrove

[Lord Nev 13,511]

4 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

perhaps but as an aside and following the logic on this thread why wouldn't you split them for two more etc etc

Brings back memories of Sylvia and McLean not to mention the dynamic duo of Scully and Trengrove

If they do, and I reckon it's a big if, I reckon it would be because as I mentioned above the first 3 are already locked away, we might be looking at Serong or someone else for a specific need and be happy to slide a little bit given it means we keep a second pick despite trading one for Langdon. If that makes sense?

Edit - Wait, were you meaning GC's picks? Sorry, bit confused....

Edited August 27, 2019 by Lord Nev

[Palace Dees 2,021]

Coniglio has just re-signed on massive $.  GWS have to be stretched to the limit of their salary cap now.  Whitfield is a restricted free agent end of next year.  They wont get anywhere near pick 2/3 as compensation if he left. We will never be in a better position to have a real go at the exact requirement of our team. We have to explore this possibility to the hilt.

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6 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Edit - Wait, were you meaning GC's picks? Sorry, bit confused..

yep... in the sense that four is better than two and then trade their high second round pick for a player

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3 minutes ago, Palace Dees said:

Coniglio has just re-signed on massive $.  GWS have to be stretched to the limit of their salary cap now.  Whitfield is a restricted free agent end of next year.  They wont get anywhere near pick 2/3 as compensation if he left. We will never be in a better position to have a real go at the exact requirement of our team. We have to explore this possibility to the hilt.

restricted free agency does not involve compo picks.

It gives GWS the right to match any offer made by another club.

The idea is good but Whitfield will have the pick of the comp if he wants to leave

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5 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

yep... in the sense that four is better than two and then trade their high second round pick for a player

Haha yeah I guess you could take the 'logic' to that extreme if you wanted to. But the context comes in to play, and you wouldn't see it when someone has picks 1 and 2, especially when they're clear ahead of everyone else and are best mates.

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I'm warming to the idea of splitting the pick. Our list has that many glaring holes in it, a highly talented U18 player won't help, especially in their first 1-2 years. Look at what Lukosious, Rankine & King did from picks 2-4 this year..jack s$#t.

With picks 13 & 17 hypothetically instead, we can trade one or both in for talent that can make an impact, and possibly still get a 1st round draft pick. 

Edited August 27, 2019 by billyblanks29

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21 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

restricted free agency does not involve compo picks.

It gives GWS the right to match any offer made by another club.

The idea is good but Whitfield will have the pick of the comp if he wants to leave

Oh OK, but the fact remains he could leave then and from a GWS perspective they can get a guaranteed 2/3 pick and salary cap relief now. Of course we have to convince Lachie but....

 

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27 minutes ago, billyblanks29 said:

I'm warming to the idea of splitting the pick. Our list has that many glaring holes in it, a highly talented U18 player won't help, especially in their first 1-2 years. Look at what Lukosious, Rankine & King did from picks 2-4 this year..jack s$#t.

With picks 13 & 17 hypothetically instead, we can trade one or both in for talent that can make an impact, and possibly still get a 1st round draft pick. 

Well GCS are a very weak team. On the other hand Port bought in three first year draftee, Rozee, Duursma & Butters  who played 22, 20 &19 games respectively. This is an excellent return on an investment in youth. One would hope with the core group of MFC regulars high draft picks could flourish with us 

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1 hour ago, billyblanks29 said:

I'm warming to the idea of splitting the pick. Our list has that many glaring holes in it, a highly talented U18 player won't help, especially in their first 1-2 years. Look at what Lukosious, Rankine & King did from picks 2-4 this year..jack s$#t.

With picks 13 & 17 hypothetically instead, we can trade one or both in for talent that can make an impact, and possibly still get a 1st round draft pick. 

One will go to Langdon if we split it.

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6 minutes ago, olisik said:

One will go to Langdon if we split it.

Stuff that.

Get Young with pick 3 & Langdon swapped for pick 20.

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25 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

Stuff that.

Get Young with pick 3 & Langdon swapped for pick 20.

FFS if you're relying on him/her to provide any valuable input don't hold your breath.

This is the same poster who wanted us to use pick #2 on Liam Henry

Edited August 27, 2019 by Pennant St Dee

[DubDee 20,874]

Last time we had a pick in the top 5 we got Oliver so I’ll back in the current list management to make right call. 

Oliver was not expected to go that high at all

[olisik 4,060]

17 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

FFS if you're relying on him/her to provide any valuable input don't hold your breath.

This is the same poster who wanted us to use pick #2 on Liam Henry

You really think if we had a pick in the teens from the split Freo wouldn’t bend Mahoney over for it like they did last year? 

Also Liam Henry is exactly the type of player we need, a small forward who kicks goals and pressures, right now Jones is our leading goal-kicker at the club after Garlett is now gone. An AA small forward who is part of another clubs academy will cost us. As will Langdon if we split.

If you go back to the Oliver thread, I got shot down for suggesting we take him at pick 4, when Carlton were looking at him around pick 12-13. Look how that turned out, but yeah that doesn’t suit your narrative.

Anyway continue pot shotting and insulting those whose opinions you don’t agree with over the internet, must make you feel tough mate.

Edited August 27, 2019 by olisik

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Does anyone think we won when we traded pick 2 for Tyson and Salem?  I am not a fan of this plan.