Apparently Macca worked very closely with Harmsey last year and for that we can be thankful. He was integral getting us into finals.

That being said, this year has been a disaster on all fronts and if that means we have to move on certain people to improve then so be it.

Its about time this club showed some ruthless aggression.

 

Edited August 5, 20195 yr by DSP

1 hour ago, Earl Hood said:

Cards I think you are referring to my training report of the morning before the coaching changes were announced. Macca was clear that the group needed to train harder, how you train is how you play! But he said they were young and would learn what was needed to get to the top. At the time I thought (maybe wrongly) that he was signalling a playing group that was content with last year’s achievements and he was trying give them a message that they had a long way to go. When I later heard he was being moved sideways away from direct player involvement I must say the alarm bells went off! The playershappy to Coast along and worse a coaching group happy with what Macca didn’t like. 

Interesting in light of today’s announcement is that he asked me if I was retired and when I said yes he responded that he wanted 2 more years to get that premiership. I can remember responding, give us 2 flags and he responded he will be happy with one. So that interchange back in June tells me he has been pushed out. If you read  the weasel word corporatespeak in the media release that is obvious.

Earl sounds like it was you. I’m obviously slightly missing what this post is trying to get across as I’m not sure what you mean by “signalling playing group content with last year (maybe wrongly)...” 

Seems pretty clear he was right if that’s what you thought, as in the players we’re taking the soft approach (amazing it took til June to work that out) and as usual the fizz weak fuschia players have won again.

 

2 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Clean out the whole lot. This year has been that bad. 

Change is a must

Goodwin... throwing everyone under the bus

we knew it was coming but it does leave you wondering about the elephant in the room

Edited August 5, 20195 yr by Diamond_Jim

2 hours ago, Little Goffy said:

We'll have Richardson, Ratten and Bolton all on our coaching panel by mid October in time to draw in Coniglio as a free agent.

Yep yep yep.

and if we do Ratten will be coach by July

We need a clean out of assistant coaches. It is a must. A reinvigoration is needed at the helm. Goody safe now but watch it next year.

3 hours ago, picket fence said:

Well In my view OLD SCHOOL is better than what Goodwin has delivered. Bad Move MFC!

“He is one of my best mates and it has been a privilege to work so closely with him.”

The pair have formed a tight relationship during their time together, as McCartney helps bring the best out of those around him.
“The impact that Macca has had on the entire football department, including the playing group, has been profound,” Goodwin said.

“He is an incredible person and the club has been extremely lucky to have someone of his calibre.”

 

Think this puts to bed that he wasn't getting on with the Coach. I also believe that this is Brendan's choice and he is looking for a change, so not a bad move by the MFC at all.

Just caught up with reading this thread/news.

For such a potentially divisive topic, the discussion has been much more....civilised and relevant than of late. Like someone has gone on holidays. 

FWIW I reckon change is good here, thanks for your time Macca. Onwards and upwards.

28 minutes ago, Redleg said:

“He is one of my best mates and it has been a privilege to work so closely with him.”

The pair have formed a tight relationship during their time together, as McCartney helps bring the best out of those around him.
“The impact that Macca has had on the entire football department, including the playing group, has been profound,” Goodwin said.

“He is an incredible person and the club has been extremely lucky to have someone of his calibre.”

 

Think this puts to bed that he wasn't getting on with the Coach. I also believe that this is Brendan's choice and he is looking for a change, so not a bad move by the MFC at all.

Correct. have heard he is interested in another senior coaching gig, may feel a senior assistant role at another club is the best way to get his name back into those conversations. wouldn't be surprised if the Suns are looking at him on decent $$ as a good football person to come up and support Dew and develop their young players.

 

36 minutes ago, Redleg said:

“He is one of my best mates and it has been a privilege to work so closely with him.”

The pair have formed a tight relationship during their time together, as McCartney helps bring the best out of those around him.
“The impact that Macca has had on the entire football department, including the playing group, has been profound,” Goodwin said.

“He is an incredible person and the club has been extremely lucky to have someone of his calibre.”

 

Think this puts to bed that he wasn't getting on with the Coach. I also believe that this is Brendan's choice and he is looking for a change, so not a bad move by the MFC at all.

You may be right Red but Macca said to me just 2 months ago that he wanted 2 years with this group to get that elusive flag (see my earlier post). He may have changed his mind but I doubt it. If you read the corporate speak release it goes on about his attributes and his great contributions and relationships with Goodwin but gives no reason why he is going! Not even the usual ones of seeking opportunities outside MFC or wanting to spend more time with his family. In short he has jumped before he was pushed! 

Surely Chaplin is on borrowed time as well. If someone of Macca’s coaching ability is leaving, surely the defensive genius that is Chaplin will no longer be required.

Isn't there a date in August when assistant coaches must be told they are no longer required?

Exit Macca

you have to wonder about how much of an impact Goodwin will actually allow assistants to have, if we got a new defensive coach would he allow them to set up their own structures?

ALLEGEDLY.....Macca had a falling out with 2 senior players and that created a divide among the others. It got to the point where several senior players wouldn't acknowledge him at all. 

Don't shoot me.  I'm only the piano player...

39 minutes ago, ProperDee said:

ALLEGEDLY.....Macca had a falling out with 2 senior players and that created a divide among the others. It got to the point where several senior players wouldn't acknowledge him at all. 

Don't shoot me.  I'm only the piano player...

Interesting. Clearly SOMETHING happened as the team morale has looked  low  for some time. McCartney does have a history of getting the senior players offside so it wouldn’t surprise. It’s his big failing.  If thats correct then I’m SO glad they acted the way they did and didn’t circle the wagons around him as they did w Schwab after 186. This is a team in terrible need of a summer reset, a big change in on and off field personal and a change in captaincy. 

10 hours ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

Apparently Caracella leaving the tigers at seasons end. i wonder if he's on our radar?

 

Already in talks with Essendon big time 

52 minutes ago, ProperDee said:

ALLEGEDLY.....Macca had a falling out with 2 senior players and that created a divide among the others. It got to the point where several senior players wouldn't acknowledge him at all. 

Don't shoot me.  I'm only the piano player...

Well play it again Sam.

9 hours ago, Earl Hood said:

You may be right Red but Macca said to me just 2 months ago that he wanted 2 years with this group to get that elusive flag (see my earlier post). He may have changed his mind but I doubt it. If you read the corporate speak release it goes on about his attributes and his great contributions and relationships with Goodwin but gives no reason why he is going! Not even the usual ones of seeking opportunities outside MFC or wanting to spend more time with his family. In short he has jumped before he was pushed! 

He had said he'd  have liked to see our his footy days at the MFc. 

His nature doesn't  suit all. Has a very singular idea about footy. This has been shown to ultimately  not be an overly successful one ( not hust with us ).

I know for a fact hes not liked in certain circles...but others praise him.

This is a huge change for us. A positive  one. Positive  because it will act as a catalyst for more changes. 

Keep going Melbourne. ..get that broon busy..  lots more to sweep out the door. 

11 hours ago, Unleash Hell said:

Some pretty poor comments as usual from the usual parrots.

All the best to Macca and thanks for the hard work.

Did some nice work with harmes and others. 

There aren't always hsopy/fairytale endings in footy

Credited with Clarry Choo Choo's development as well!

2 hours ago, ProperDee said:

ALLEGEDLY.....Macca had a falling out with 2 senior players and that created a divide among the others. It got to the point where several senior players wouldn't acknowledge him at all. 

Don't shoot me.  I'm only the piano player...

17 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

He had said he'd  have liked to see our his footy days at the MFc. 

His nature doesn't  suit all. Has a very singular idea about footy. This has been shown to ultimately  not be an overly successful one ( not hust with us ).

I know for a fact hes not liked in certain circles...but others praise him.

This is a huge change for us. A positive  one. Positive  because it will act as a catalyst for more changes. 

Keep going Melbourne. ..get that broon busy..  lots more to sweep out the door. 

RE  1st Post who Who were the Senior players?? Viney Srn should be next to go IMV!

If jumping to conclusions were an Olympic sport, the gold, silver and bronze medallists are all posting in this thread.

13 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Official. Rook is gone too I've heard on the rumour mill. Richardson to replace Macca IMO.

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2019-08-05/mccartney-set-to-depart-at-seasons-end

Thought his days were numbered after the mid season reshuffle - particularly given that our forward line set up, especially for the first half of the season, was diabolical.

I like McCartney, and I appreciate his contributions to the club, but it’s clear some changes need to be made.

Would be very happy to see Alan Richardson in this role.

 

Can someone please enlighten me as to what the sorts of things McCartney is supposedly doing to get people offside? Is it the way he delivers his messages? The messages themselves? Or something else?

As someone with zero inside knowledge of this sort of stuff, it would help me understand the consistent rumours.

 

McCartney seems like a hugely passionate person who has assisted any number of the players on the list. Hopefully this is genuinely a recognition of the end of the road for him at Melbourne and a change in coaching direction is needed, as opposed to something more problematic. Either way, he should be thanked for his efforts, even if this year hasn't worked out.

 

For the Club, I really hope this is a sign of admission that they have stuffed it up and a new approach to the game is warranted.

4 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

If jumping to conclusions were an Olympic sport, the gold, silver and bronze medallists are all posting in this thread.

Your not wrong there, you could also throw in rumor mongering, hysteria, dummy spitting, the list is endless

I think the modern player has to be handled differently !!!

Not able for tough/honest/real/criticism

A BIG NEED FOR HARDNESS AND PRIDE

My son was coached by McCartney and he liked him, I thought he was a jarring tactless boor (McCartney not my son). Different folks different strokes?