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Goodwin has confirmed that Gawn, Lever and Nev will all be back in this week according to the MFC website.

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56 minutes ago, Demon3 said:

So we are going to bring in Nev - Slow and slowing and underdone, Lever - Slow, underdone, Max - Big and slow, keep Pruess in, Big and Slow, with Weid, Big and slow. plus we expect ANB to be the small forward.. which he is nothing like a small Fwd.  against The dogs who are quick and on a really fast deck. 

Why are we rushing Jetta back in? I

If Jetta comes in, it will be in the expectation that he is fit and has enough k’s in the legs. I still don’t understand why people automatically conclude “rushing back” when the club doesn’t apply conservatism upon conservatism upon conservatism.

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51 minutes ago, Demon3 said:

So we are going to bring in Nev - Slow and slowing and underdone, Lever - Slow, underdone, Max - Big and slow, keep Pruess in, Big and Slow, with Weid, Big and slow. plus we expect ANB to be the small forward.. which he is nothing like a small Fwd.  against The dogs who are quick and on a really fast deck. 

Why are we rushing Jetta back in? I

If Jetta comes back in he'll play deep back and it will push Hibberd and/or Frost higher up the ground to the role Petty or Hore were playing and Fritsch on a wing. That means more speed where it counts. It looks like it's either Jetta or Petty, it's not like there's a quick back flanker on the list ready to play.

Preuss and Weid will play on Trengove and Cordy, it's not like they're up against smalls. Hannan and Hunt are really the deep smaller forwards and have plenty of pace, they just don't provide consistent results. ANB has the right physical tools to play as a hard running half forward, he just often fails at the skills.

I'm far more worried about what we'll do with Lewis who won't have the speed or physicality to mix it with the Dogs mids. I guess he'll sit out on a wing opposed to guys like Lipinski and Hunter, but I'm sure the Dogs will send speed his way.

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Thinking about it instead of dropping Petty at some stage they have to at least consider dropping Hibberd don't they? He's been really bad for most of this year. Butchering the ball, letting opponents slip out of tackles or contests and not providing any leadership or composure. Obviously he's had some injuries as well and he's still capable of some very good efforts including a clutch spoil last week late in the game but it wouldn't shock me if he made way.

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16 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Thinking about it instead of dropping Petty at some stage they have to at least consider dropping Hibberd don't they? He's been really bad for most of this year. Butchering the ball, letting opponents slip out of tackles or contests and not providing any leadership or composure. Obviously he's had some injuries as well and he's still capable of some very good efforts including a clutch spoil last week late in the game but it wouldn't shock me if he made way.

Agree. With all the carnage this year Hibbo has flown under the radar in terms of his performance not getting much critique. In addition to the issues you note he has lost yard of pace (probably a combination of his injury issues and age), which takes his main weapon away and he often sell teammates into trouble with quick release handballs.

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On 7/8/2019 at 3:01 PM, binman said:

I'd love to  see frosty given a run on the wing where his pace and attacking bent  could be real weapon and his horrible short kicks not so much a risk of an imneciate goal to the opposition.

Frost no good on the wing. He's great when streaming out of the backline because he doesn't have to worry about whats behind him. Play him on the wing and it adda another direction he has to think about and then turns into a headless chook. 

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54 minutes ago, Nasher said:

If Jetta comes in, it will be in the expectation that he is fit and has enough k’s in the legs. I still don’t understand why people automatically conclude “rushing back” when the club doesn’t apply conservatism upon conservatism upon conservatism.

If he's ready, why limit him to playing a half game of VFL last week?

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10 minutes ago, chookrat said:

Frost no good on the wing. He's great when streaming out of the backline because he doesn't have to worry about whats behind him. Play him on the wing and it adda another direction he has to think about and then turns into a headless chook. 

I tend to agree.

What I would like to see though is Frost given a bit more license to be a bit more attacking and break lines with his run some more.  With Lever, Jetta and May down back to steady the ship a but more it might just allow him to do just that.

Having said that, I think with May in the side, it has freed up Frost to use his pace to run off his man and intercept the ball more, which is pehaps a more conservative, safer and predictable way to exploit his pace.  10 marks last week was a great demonstration, but not an isolated example by any means.  ...but I do love it when he cuts loose and takes players on and it can create great scoring opportunities for us when it comes off. 

Would really like to  see some more of those 60m barrel goals he can kick as well!!

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I love what Frosty has done this year. Under Steven May's Tutelage I hope he develops some Mongrel as well! Yep he makes mistakes But they are lessening with every outing!! Remember a guy called Gary Cowton?? And our very own Rhino Richards?? Frosty is not unlike these guys and at some point in Crazy Horse's case they may win you at the business End of the season.

My second favourite player behind Clarry Choo Choo is FROSTY!

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4 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

If he's ready, why limit him to playing a half game of VFL last week?

MFC site said 3/4s ge time and then given extra running as well.  But I hear you, I'm a little confused by the contrast in Demonland and MFC messaging.  We will just have to wait and see I guess.

Either way, eill be great to see him out there again - We love you Nev.

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7 minutes ago, picket fence said:

I love what Frosty has done this year. Under Steven May's Tutelage I hope he develops some Mongrel as well! Yep he makes mistakes But they are lessening with every outing!! Remember a guy called Gary Cowton?? And our very own Rhino Richards?? Frosty is not unlike these guys and at some point in Crazy Horse's case they may win you at the business End of the season.

My second favourite player behind Clarry Choo Choo is FROSTY!

Frosty has more than enough agreression and mongrel in the way he plays.  Best thing he stands to learn off Maysy is some more footy smarts.

But otherwise I agree Picket.  Frosty has been a favorite of mine for a few years now.   Say what you will about his haphazardness, but the guys always has a red hot crack at it.

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5 hours ago, ArtificialWisdom said:

 

Gawn, Lever and Jetta all in. This could mean Petty is the unlucky out regardless of concussion

Against Carlscum, I liked the way Petty, when beaten for a possession by his opponent, generally man-handled that opponent with confidence and some authority to 'the extreme letter of the law'. He does not look strong but can obviously apply it. 

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21 minutes ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Frosty has more than enough agreression and mongrel in the way he plays.  Best thing he stands to learn off Maysy is some more footy smarts.

But otherwise I agree Picket.  Frosty has been a favorite of mine for a few years now.   Say what you will about his haphazardness, but the guys always has a red hot crack at it.

Excitement machine is our Frosty. 

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