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No way I would like to see Max as the captain or even co-captain.  He’s under enough pressure to perform as it is, and the last thing he needs is the added burden of the captaincy.  Just let him do his thing and provide inspiration through his onfield performances.  

After last year I’d have thought it would have to be T-Mac, but his half hearted efforts this year have quashed any thoughts of that... I guess May would have to be considered and even Lever, although he’s one I’d like to see given a bit more time to mature.

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    Just a thought but doesn't the co captains issue just double the angst

    One or none is my theory.

    It's just an armband.... what's the sanctity of dropping the captain other than it is a admission by the coaching staff that they are not omnipotent.

    Time to stop being precious about such things.

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    5 hours ago, Caligula's cohort said:

    Whenever I head down to training, Max is always the most vocal of all our leaders. He is the one driving the players, encouraging them and telling them where to improve. It's so obvious he should be Captain. 

    i think there Will be a change at the end of this season.?

    I cannot see Viney becoming permanent Captain the way he is playing,  atmo.    He doesn't look like he can play at all.

     

    I think Gawn is one on the horizon for leadership,  and also Harmes...  who sort of reminds me of a young Barassi... in the manner he has come thru the ranks...   struggled,  until he built his engine,  and is now such a gutsy leader in our team.

    One of our Best.

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    4 hours ago, hardtack said:

    After last year I’d have thought it would have to be T-Mac, but his half hearted efforts this year have quashed any thoughts of that... I guess May would have to be considered and even Lever, although he’s one I’d like to see given a bit more time to mature.

    Though he's not half hearted when he argues with the umpires. Looks more interested in proving to the umpire that he's correct, than getting on with it.

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    Jones earned the captaincy. He should be the one to decide who he passes it on to. Viney should just focus on his football, he could probably do with a stint down Casey. He needs to work on his game. 

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    Whatever happens, a decision on the captaincy won't be made by anyone posting on this thread.

    Thankfully.

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    12 hours ago, daisycutter said:

    do people really think changing the captain will solve our problems?

    when did it last workat mfc and turn around a struggling team

    more a recipe to ruin a player

    Wouldn’t hurt 

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    12 hours ago, Billy said:

    Max sole skipper 

    Lever & Viney deputy’s 

    good option and sets Lever up to take role when Max retires in the distant future. Lever was seen as potential skipper at Crows which was one reason they were upset he left.

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    12 hours ago, picket fence said:

    Dazzle is right on the money. Jones retires at seasons end ( after a great career) and club moves to appoint new blood. 

    Viney is NOT a captains toenail. Period!

    For next year

    GAWN CAPT

    MAY ( Thats right MAY!) VC

    OLIVER DVC

    LEADERSHIP GROUP  LEVER, MELKS NEV 

    Another sensible and smart left field post.

    Could just be the solution.

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    If Gawn’s performances aren’t enough to inspire the team right now I’m not sure what will. Tireless and Herculean performances each and every week. Not sure how to feel about Max being captain next season. The man leads already and some don’t follow. 

    Just incredible numbers he’s putting up.

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    I like the idea of Viney and Gawn co-captains rather than Maxy as the sole skipper

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    11 hours ago, hardtack said:

    No way I would like to see Max as the captain or even co-captain.  He’s under enough pressure to perform as it is, and the last thing he needs is the added burden of the captaincy.  Just let him do his thing and provide inspiration through his onfield performances.  

    After last year I’d have thought it would have to be T-Mac, but his half hearted efforts this year have quashed any thoughts of that... I guess May would have to be considered and even Lever, although he’s one I’d like to see given a bit more time to mature.

    This.

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    9 hours ago, DV8 said:

    i think there Will be a change at the end of this season.?

    I cannot see Viney becoming permanent Captain the way he is playing,  atmo.    He doesn't look like he can play at all.

     

    I think Gawn is one on the horizon for leadership,  and also Harmes...  who sort of reminds me of a young Barassi... in the manner he has come thru the ranks...   struggled,  until he built his engine,  and is now such a gutsy leader in our team.

    One of our Best.

    Id like to know if viney is playing with the foot injury still. If he is, we are failing jack and learnt nothing from the past 8 years of ruining careers. If he can rest and return to full fitness he was showing he was next in line after jones, i think he was probably given co captaincy a year earlier than most thought as jones was still in our top 3 but couldnt question that jack deserved it. If he is going to be hampered long term, i would hope jack would step aside to focus on his game without the added pressure of playing because hes captain.

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    2 hours ago, scarlett said:

    Id like to know if viney is playing with the foot injury still. If he is, we are failing jack and learnt nothing from the past 8 years of ruining careers. If he can rest and return to full fitness he was showing he was next in line after jones, i think he was probably given co captaincy a year earlier than most thought as jones was still in our top 3 but couldnt question that jack deserved it. If he is going to be hampered long term, i would hope jack would step aside to focus on his game without the added pressure of playing because hes captain.

    Hmmn.  It's a tough one isn't it.  I don't know if jack is injured or if his foot is just weakened,  or what the story is,  but its painful to see.   He's well below his unhindered best form.

    I was screaming from the bleaches to not keep him playing with the plantar fascia...  and then again after he came back way too soon after,  as we did with Maxy...   and TMc as well, 

     

    Our 3 most important players all cut down, with hasty decisions.

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    38 minutes ago, DV8 said:

    Hmmn.  It's a tough one isn't it.  I don't know if jack is injured or if his foot is just weakened,  or what the story is,  but its painful to see.   He's well below his unhindered best form.

    I was screaming from the bleaches to not keep him playing with the plantar fascia...  and then again after he came back way too soon after,  as we did with Maxy...   and TMc as well, 

     

    Our 3 most important players all cut down, with hasty decisions.

    Goes back further than that, back when we hired misson from sydney i think. Mitch Clarke, jack trengove

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    Interesting timing.

    I don't agree with much from Lloyd, but he is also questioning whether Jones and Viney stay on as captains for the reasons stated above (age, fitness etc). Judd seems to think Viney should take an extended break.

    Lloyd also wonders whether an investigation should be called into our performance in 2019 due to pretty much everyone going backwards (so, not just injuries - actually looking at the guys who have played this year and asking why they have declined). I'm in favour of a formal enquiry into the first half of this year. There's a lot of footy to be played, but that just means that we have time to actually correct things rather than just do much of the same, and then be shocked when we're still bottom 4 (if not dead last) at the end of the year.

    https://wwos.nine.com.au/afl/melbourne-demons-football-review-called-for-by-matthew-lloyd/ec3c6bf6-3b05-4817-af22-940ee6e4be70

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    Just a related question, does it impact us that we have no forwards in the leadership group? For a part of the ground we are having so much trouble with, we have no recognized leader as such (at least officially). TMac was stripped of his leadership title so potentially would be hesitant to try and fill that void given his peers didn't recognize him enough to be in the group, (speculation only of course).

    Who is meant to be the director of traffic in forward 50?

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    3 hours ago, Wrecker45 said:

    Hawthorn

    Yeah right I could just see Clarko Giving Viney a Gig NOT!

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    Lever is the most natural leader IMO. And has shown great fortitude to comeback in such a fashion after that injury.

    If he's burning it up over pre-season I would seriously consider him for C or VC.

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    18 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

    Lever is the most natural leader IMO. And has shown great fortitude to comeback in such a fashion after that injury.

    If he's burning it up over pre-season I would seriously consider him for C or VC.

    I am with you on this one. I dont rate Viney as a captain.. at all, never have. For me the obvious choice is Lever and Gawn.

    Both just absolutely typify what you want in a leader in front of camera as they both speak extremely well and commend respect on field. Viney is the complete opposite in that he cant even string a sentence together and just mumbles his way through. He is cringe to listen too. Plus his on field performance this year has been simply poor. When the cameras went to him at the start of the 2nd qtr he was sitting on the bench with an extreme sour look on his face.. his body language wasn't great at all.

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    12 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    I am with you on this one. I dont rate Viney as a captain.. at all, never have. For me the obvious choice is Lever and Gawn.

    Both just absolutely typify what you want in a leader in front of camera as they both speak extremely well and commend respect on field. Viney is the complete opposite in that he cant even string a sentence together and just mumbles his way through. He is cringe to listen too. Plus his on field performance this year has been simply poor. When the cameras went to him at the start of the 2nd qtr he was sitting on the bench with an extreme sour look on his face.. his body language wasn't great at all.

    I saw that. Head in the palm of his hands with a big scowl on his face. Wasn’t a good look. I love what Jack V. brings to the table but a leader and a communicator he ain’t. Lever speaks very well I agree. And is very courageous. That flying mark going back with the flight in the first was seriously brave coming from a bloke returning from an ACL.

     

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    Gawn for me next year.

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