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Trac unfortunatley has to practice his set shot (and bal drop) instead of speechmaking.  WHen he can kick gaols under pressure he would make a great captain.

Max  (c)

TMac (VC)

Jetta  and Harmesy in leadership group

Clarrie needs to get over his dinky handballing and Gus has to cure his colour blinded kicking.
Then we will be away !!!!!

I hope every player watched the Toiges and WC on SUnday to understand what commitment is all about.

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On 8/17/2019 at 9:15 PM, 640MD said:

Probably get howled down for this but

why not May for captain if he comes back with the correct skin folds ?

he does not take a back ward step, goes hard at it !  And he had some experience .

What are u talking about? I had him pegged for this in another thread about 6 weeks ago!!

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So what happens when Gawn has an average year in 2020, and Frost wins the B&F?

 

Simpletons reward the best player with the captaincy every year or 2.

Viney should co-captain with Gawn.  End of story.  Jones has served well and enjoy his last year or so captaincy-free.

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“The players have to have a good look at themselves, and the football department need to have a good look at themselves.

“I suspect there will be a change in leadership next year.”

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Total leadership spill. No one holds any position based upon the past.  Leadership positions to be earned based upon actions around the team and on the track.  real leadership on display on the paddock, but not ending there.  Expect there to be a leadership group of May, Gawn TMac (Line generals) and one or two others (Lever? Viney?). But have to be earned from day 1 back at the club.  C and VC decided from amongst the leadership group.

Hard to lead that Rabble, regardless of who you are..

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1 hour ago, picket fence said:

What are u talking about? I had him pegged for this in another thread about 6 weeks ago!!

Sorry had not read that thread,   but its not an universally popular position to take.    Most posters (80%) here advocate for Viney as a hard at it player or Jones for his past endeavours, when no one else seemed to be capable,   Neither are capable of grabbing a game by the throat and making it ours.

Ricciutto, Voss, Hird or Selwood  they are not.

Neitz was OK apart from his last year. Ditterich made the others walk tall.  who else.

If May was fit and not injured then he plays a hard game and might be an answer, I think time will tell, but I don't think I am looking forward to 2020 with much confidence unless there is great change. and May into a major leadership role would be a BIG change.

Especially if Viney and Jones were demoted, as it were.    It will be the offseason soon,  Number 2 pick and pick 20 ? 

last year was better !!

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13 hours ago, TGR said:

So what happens when Gawn has an average year in 2020, and Frost wins the B&F?

 

Simpletons reward the best player with the captaincy every year or 2.

Viney should co-captain with Gawn.  End of story.  Jones has served well and enjoy his last year or so captaincy-free.

If Viney is anywhere near Captain next year we are in deeper stuff than now! Must make clear sweeping changes.

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17 hours ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Trac possibly....Petracca is possibly one of the overrated players in the game at the moment. Still waiting for him to play a whole game. He fits your self absorbed and uninspiring brief perfectly. I’d trade him at seasons end but the club won’t. 

Well that is just a ridiculous post, because he has had a great year, built on it really well. Lucky you are not in our FD.

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On 8/19/2019 at 10:42 AM, praha said:

Nick Maxwell became a decent player after being named captain. You could argue he wouldn't have been best 22 in a near unbeatable Pies team if he wasn't captain. Except he, like all strong leaders, excelled and exerted +100% to lead from the front. He was an average player striving to be the best. That's great leadership.

Yep. There was only one role for Nick Maxwell in that team. To be the Captain 

 

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Did I read correctly in the Sun today ('One Jones for Dees' p62) that Jones "is expected to surrender the co-captaincy"? 

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6 minutes ago, RedButMostlyBlue said:

Did I read correctly in the Sun today ('One Jones for Dees' p62) that Jones "is expected to surrender the co-captaincy"? 

Fingers crossed 🤞 

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16 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

It’s Viney to retain the captaincy in his own right.  Lots of other issues to worry about.

This probably won't happen, but Jack needs to focus all of his energy in getting his body and form back in 2020.

The Captaincy needs to be our most Influential Player and media performer Maxy Gawn with Tmac as his VC. 

Likely scenario though, Gawny and Jack Co-Captains.

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17 hours ago, picket fence said:

What are u talking about? I had him pegged for this in another thread about 6 weeks ago!!

May!

The guy is a worn out average player on his good days who is here to top up his Super.

Based on this year he will struggle to play 10 games, you need a captain who is capable of 20+ PA.

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1 minute ago, old dee said:

May!

The guy is a worn out average player on his good days who is here to top up his Super.

Based on this year he will struggle to play 10 games, you need a captain who is capable of 20+ PA.

We're not talking about the off spin bowler here 'old'...

May is an A grader, has struggled to get on the park but if he does (and should with a solid preseason)  next year will push for AA.

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4 hours ago, picket fence said:

If Viney is anywhere near Captain next year we are in deeper stuff than now! Must make clear sweeping changes.

Could not agree more. The May option even in LG would be a big change and worthy of consideration.  I will be surprised if he's not at least In LG if he does a gawn and returns in mint condition 

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Healy said a few weeks ago that Viney shouldn't have been made co-captain as '...he was not in control of his game... and said so at the time.  That sounds like an essential criteria, among several others.  

Max is the only one that fulfills that and the other criteria:  match winner, media performer, good front man for sponsors,  affable, respected, motivational, works hard and drives standards. 

Jack fails on several of those.  May, Lever, Mcdonald etc are not in control of their games/current roles.  The VC/LS from them or Jetta, Melksham.

Let the players have a say.

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3 minutes ago, rjay said:

We're not talking about the off spin bowler here 'old'...

May is an A grader, has struggled to get on the park but if he does (and should with a solid preseason)  next year will push for AA.

May AA.

I think you have the wrong definition of that rjay.

jokes aside I have seen nothing to suggest he is AA material. 

The only times I heard his name mentioned at GCS was when he was reported which was often. 

They did not seem overly upset when he said he was going, that says plenty to me.

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27 minutes ago, old dee said:

May!

The guy is a worn out average player on his good days who is here to top up his Super.

Based on this year he will struggle to play 10 games, you need a captain who is capable of 20+ PA.

May made a mistake and I think will come good next year, that said I don't think he should be in the leadership group given the events of this year. 

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1 minute ago, Robbie57 said:

May made a mistake and I think will come good next year, that said I don't think he should be in the leadership group given the events of this year. 

Serious question. Do you think he is anything above an average backman?

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1 hour ago, Win4theAges said:

This probably won't happen, but Jack needs to focus all of his energy in getting his body and form back in 2020.

The Captaincy needs to be our most Influential Player and media performer Maxy Gawn with Tmac as his VC. 

Likely scenario though, Gawny and Jack Co-Captains.

Viney should not under ANY circumstances be Capt next year. Place will continue to go backwards IMV if so!

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40 minutes ago, old dee said:

Serious question. Do you think he is anything above an average backman?

May is a very, very good backman...

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3 minutes ago, rjay said:

May is a very, very good backman...

Hope you are right rjay.

I have yet to see it.

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