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Never play him again. Welcome back Maysie

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Just now, Demonia said:

Oscar might make a good 2nd ruckman...

[censored] body on body - so I’d suggest not 

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2 minutes ago, SPC said:

[censored] body on body - so I’d suggest not 

Maybe so - not disregarding that, but I think Oscar's height might work to his advantage in ruck duels.

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12 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

CLEARLY didnt not watch tonights game. he is a spud and will be making his way out for Steven May.

There is nothing tonight that justify any sense of support whatsoever. He was pathetic. 

You didn't answer the question, may, lever, petty and hore were not available so who would you play instead. And we kicked 1.8 in the last and your blaming Oscar for it??? The forwards lost this game but our backs. Tmac, Hannan, garlett were much worse then omac

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Did we sack Todd Viney at half time and make O Mac our goal kicking coach in the second half?

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Just now, Dee Zephyr said:

Did we sack Todd Viney at half time and make O Mac our goal kicking coach in the second half?

For a lot on here it's just easier to blame the whipping boy then acknowledge the true cause of the result

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2 minutes ago, Red and Blue realist said:

For a lot on here it's just easier to blame the whipping boy then acknowledge the true cause of the result

Oh please, there were multiple reasons we lost. Set shot kicking is one. Oscars terrible performance was another.

Do you think he is a player we should continue persisting with? I have seen him take fresh airs at spoils at least 3 times this year. He is useless, zero intensity, zero footy nous, zero skills. What exactly is he good at besides being relatively tall?

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5 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Oh please, there were multiple reasons we lost. Set shot kicking is one. Oscars terrible performance was another.

Do you think he is a player we should continue persisting with? I have seen him take fresh airs at spoils at least 3 times this year. He is useless, zero intensity, zero footy nous, zero skills. What exactly is he good at besides being relatively tall?

Again, if we drop him who do you replace him with? May, lever, petty, hore?? Because none of them were available. 

We lost because we couldn't convert up forward, it's as easy as that. World I prefer a backline with may, lever, Jetta, hore in it, of course but I'm not having a go at the backline for this loss

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Every player had a job to do.

The angst with Omac is not that he cost us the game. It is that in so many ways and in so many games, he has been found incapable of executing his role.

This deficiency has been highlighted for 3 years as we had no other options. We now appear to have better options, while Oscar has failed to develop despite numerous opportunities.

The day of reckoning has now arrived.

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14 minutes ago, Red and Blue realist said:

Again, if we drop him who do you replace him with? May, lever, petty, hore?? Because none of them were available. 

We lost because we couldn't convert up forward, it's as easy as that. World I prefer a backline with may, lever, Jetta, hore in it, of course but I'm not having a go at the backline for this loss

that's a simplistic view. we lost because we were the worse side. OMac was part of that. he got beaten in crucial contests, repeatedly and easily. poor game from him, even by his low standards.

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5 minutes ago, Demon Dude said:

that's a simplistic view. we lost because we were the worse side. OMac was part of that. he got beaten in crucial contests, repeatedly and easily. poor game from him, even by his low standards.

I don't think we were the worse side at all. We just didn't convert, we kicked 1 goal 8 behinds in the last, even if we went 4.5 then most on here would be happy. I know a lot blame omac for everything, and I'm not saying he was great but we literally had no one else, and reading on here you'd think he had 10 kicked in him

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7 minutes ago, Hot as Hell said:

Every player had a job to do.

The angst with Omac is not that he cost us the game. It is that in so many ways and in so many games, he has been found incapable of executing his role.

This deficiency has been highlighted for 3 years as we had no other options. We now appear to have better options, while Oscar has failed to develop despite numerous opportunities.

The day of reckoning has now arrived.

He's the only player who had an individual topic dedicated to his performance tonight, with calls he never plays again. We don't have better options as they weren't available and if we kicked straight then we win by over 5 goals

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7 minutes ago, Red and Blue realist said:

He's the only player who had an individual topic dedicated to his performance tonight, with calls he never plays again. We don't have better options as they weren't available and if we kicked straight then we win by over 5 goals

With all due respect Red and Blue.......

The fact that you miss the point of this thread entirely seems to diminish the value of your contribution.

Do you not understand the words Oscar did not cost us the game?

I rarely post on this site, the blinkered opinions of many are simply not worth debating.

I travelled to Darwin and saw Oscar's positioning on his player long before the ball was delivered. He has a high IQ, but not for football. This thread is about improving the side, nothing else.

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2 minutes ago, Hot as Hell said:

With all due respect Red and Blue.......

The fact that you miss the point of this thread entirely seems to diminish the value of your contribution.

Do you not understand the words Oscar did not cost us the game?

I rarely post on this site, the blinkered opinions of many are simply not worth debating.

This thread is dedicated to Oscar costing us the game, I'm just saying that's not the case and we had no other real alternative to him. At no point have I said he played a good game, what cost us the game was bad kicking and bad forward play, but that's been overlooked in here

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1 hour ago, Little Goffy said:

Honestly, I don't see the point in throwing more trash at him, he has been in only because of injuries to both of our first-choice key defenders. When May and Lever return, and with the development of Hore, return of Smith, and even the impending prospect of Petty overtaking him, Oscar's time and role at the club is in a twilight.

Railing against his presence in our best 22 is about as sensible as railing against the continuing of season 2019. We know the situation, we know it will end, we know there will be a new dawn.

Might as well as least let some peace flow in the meantime. Don't cling to bitterness.

Amen. 

I am sure we didn’t go get May because we thought Oscar was the next Scarlett. But May totally [censored] us by being fat and enjoying the [censored]. Let’s hope those shenanigans are behind us now and both May and Lever return soon to bolster our diabolical backline situation. Which lets not forget is also missing the best small defender in the comp in Jetta. 

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We talk about Oscar and for good reason, but I reckon Tom is on par with him. 

Oscar rarely manages to halve contests, let alone win them, while Tom rarely marks anything, let alone kicks goals. 10 from 11 games is a pathetic return for a player of his maturity. The delivery has been rubbish, blah, blah, blah, but he doesn't mark the bloody thing.

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1 hour ago, Red and Blue realist said:

Seriously??? And play who? May was coming back from injury, lever, hore and petty were out. Plus at least he didn't turn the ball over every time he had it out of defence. He was no where near the reason we lost tonight, 1.8 in the last and stupid decisions going forward were

No offence R&B  I was a fan of OMAC and he has his faults. He is not cut out for AFL. He has lost more than his Mojo . and plays with no confidence . His mind is somewhere else.  Punched the ball away from himself when could have taken the mark in the last line of defence luckily it rolled over for a behind. More than most likely will be dropped. Keeps making the obvious. Foot skills are ordinary and has no intensity. He wasn't any better in his first 50 plus games and now he is worse than ever. Sorry Omac  you lost me.

Looked ok and thought he will improve in 2018 however he has gone backwards to a point of no return. Is there a miracle? I hope so but you are asking for the unbelievable.

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I laughed when OMac went for a spoil when he was 1 on 1 with Betts. Could you imagine any other full back going for a spoil if 1 on 1 with Spargo?

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2 hours ago, Earl Hood said:

Had 2.3 kicked on him, yes that was the difference, NOT. 

 And our 1 goal 8 b had nothing to do with it. Sheesh!

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3 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Not sure why my intial thread got taken down but, so I'll keep this simple. 

Probably one of the worst AFL players going around and its time we see the last of this potato.

With May coming in next week i expect tonight we'll be the last we'll see him in a red and blue jumper.. ever!

Seriously??

We kicked 1.8 in last qrt

You want to hang the full back who was consistently let down by midfielders letting easy ball go into our defensive 50 leaving him  exposed without support

I'm not a big fan of Omac, but you're completely missing the real issue  

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3 hours ago, At the break of Gawn said:

I don’t like player bashing but he is the definition of a liability.

Some of his defensive efforts on Jenkins were woeful.

He just falls over too much, can’t be an AFL player if you’re always on the floor, has to go 

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Have no scientific basis for this, but Oscar appears to have no fast twitch muscle fibres. He has no power. No intensity, no grunt, everything is done at one pace, slow motion.

He was an embarrassment tonight and had been all year.

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I expect that he will lose the contest any time the ball is kicked in his vicinity. And so does he.

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Historically he's done a decent job on Jenkins, which tells you he's even worse this year than previously. 

No physicality in the contest
No intercepting or strong play
Zero creativity or drive with the ball 

Like so many Melbourne players he did a few nice things in the VFL and was then promoted to a locked in spot in the senior side. At least now he should get the chance to show he can dominate at Casey. Maybe if he can he could have a future at AFL level.

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7 hours ago, picket fence said:

And just to think he has played what over 50 games??? Hnmm reason why MFC are no closer to success than in 64!!

Putrid player!

In the tight games that we have lost over the past 3 years, OMac has generally been the reason.

When we have been easily defeated, OMac has been an opposition 'surety' to ramify forward dominance. 

In the games we have won, OMac has been unsighted except for clangers.

Get him off the field immediately. He is targeted, weekly, by opposition coaches and players as an easy-beat; he is an avenue to goal for all of the teams we have played this year.

Goodwin, we do not need him - and after all of these losses, he still gets a game to weaken our few onfield advantages.

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