8 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Higgins didnt bump him high. was a clash of heads.

May bumped his neck/chin

Look of the game? Did he need to do it?

The vibe?

 

Don't get greedy. Just argue it medium to low. Not concussed, unassisted from the ground and "did not return to field" it's unreasonable to use this as evidence in a JLT game when Clubs frequently pull players. Brisbane played 25 players, there was no reason for them to put him back on

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I'm glad they're appealing the decision.  I think we're a big chance of having it overturned.

15 minutes ago, The Stigga said:

Look of the game? Did he need to do it?

The vibe?

 

Mabo....

Good to see club challenge

Go Dees

6 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Mabo....

Good to see club challenge

Go Dees

In summing up, it’s the constitution, it’s Mabo, it’s justice, it’s law, it’s the vibe 

11 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

In summing up, it’s the constitution, it’s Mabo, it’s justice, it’s law, it’s the vibe 

When Steven May has the suspension overturned...

'Bad luck... ya [censored]...'

17 hours ago, monoccular said:

Burnside maybe?? ?

The MRP (or whatever the chumps choose to cal it this year) has gotten off to a great start consistency wise.

Still, Mumford is important to the AFL's pet GW$$$, May plays for Melbourne, the AFL's whipping boy.  Therein lies the difference.

 

17 hours ago, 58er said:

Christian as usual is trying to muscle his way into 2019.

Must appeal on the medium impact ruling.

I f Mummy can get off then so can Maysie.

The AFL won't be happy if Christian's year starts with multiple successful challenges to the Tribunal. Would seem to suggest that the MRO might need to rethink his approach.

17 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Update:

Christian explained how he found it to be medium impact. 

"The three things we take into account with impact is the visual look of the incident, the player reaction and also the medical report," Christian said.  "Taking all those things into account, and the fact that Berry didn't return to the ground, it was graded as medium impact."

How the visual look of the incident ie the optics affects impact is beyond me!!.  Sure, Berry went down but that was as much from surprise as it was severity of the bump.  And then there is the mysterious 'medical report'. 

I reckon Christian weighed it pretty heavily on the optics - the media was baying for a suspension and he delivered.

I reckon we should appeal not only to get May off but to show our mettle - it is time we play the hard game like other clubs do.

Not returning to the ground in a practice match? That seems an odd parameter given clubs regularly rest players in practice matches (including JLT matches) whether it's because of plans to limit game minutes or to protect players from possible injury. In itself, this should be a ground for appeal.

36 minutes ago, dieter said:

Bulldust. Watch it in real time: may stood his ground and turned at the last second to avoid being injured himself. Berry ran into him. Like I keep saying, watch the bloody thing in real time: may had a split second to decide what to do. To step out of the way was NOT  an AFL FOOTBALLER'S OPTION. 

of course he can't step out of the way. he just needed to not catch him on the chin.

having said that I am glad we are appealing.  I reckon we are a good chance to downgrade the impact to low

I am surprised we are appealing but good luck anyway. It was a ridiculous decision to be banned for a week for a bump. The tribunal is consistently inconsistent anyway.

7 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

 

The AFL won't be happy if Christian's year starts with multiple successful challenges to the Tribunal. Would seem to suggest that the MRO might need to rethink his approach.

Not returning to the ground in a practice match? That seems an odd parameter given clubs regularly rest players in practice matches (including JLT matches) whether it's because of plans to limit game minutes or to protect players from possible injury. In itself, this should be a ground for appeal.

Could not agree more. If it was for 4 points I suggest he would have gone straight back on. To say he did not come back on in a praccy game is stupid. Lions would have rested him as they had 26 players to rotate.

18 hours ago, buck_nekkid said:

Ridiculous.  No contact with the head.  Little fella bounced of big fella.

should we appeal?

What was May's alternative? Run away as fast as possible or stand his ground, protecting carefully against damaging contact? He well and truly achieved the latter and with the combined faking by the little bloke, was penalised very unfairly. May actually absorbed the impact - his was static until that millisecond after the contact; when he did move, he was protecting the little fella from injury by shifting his centre of gravity and secondly, protecting his own soft tissues as mass hits mass. Just because he was larger, with more mass, he gets penalised. He should be given a red poppy for exemplary fair play and the displayed concern that he exhibited to minimise the risk (to both moving masses in the collision). To make a point, if it had been Ray Biffen, the fella would not have got up.

Re the " didnt return to the ground"accusation,  it was at the 18 minute mark of the last quarter ffs. Meaning he spent 10 mins ( unconcussed) off the ground. There's decent grounds to argue right there. Glad this club has grown some teeth again. 

Leaving aside the suspension, it was plain stupid from may. Supposed to be leader.

Risks a suspension before he plays his first game for a new club. For what. Nada. Stupid 

42 minutes ago, The Stigga said:

Look of the game? Did he need to do it?

The vibe?

 

Didn't see the game but viewing the short replay here, Yes he needed to do it.

Unfortunate that Berry looked up late and couldn't protect himself from immovable object and was opened up. May did not have time to avoid or anticipate what action Berry would make he prepared for the collision but did not charge or hang out and arm or elbow. We have been accused of soft football and this sort of statement is needed. We will not shirk, we will not be moved. It's why we must appeal. 

If Christian is going to charge on the look of things the charges will be endless. Don't bring the vibe into it.

5 minutes ago, dpositive said:

Didn't see the game but viewing the short replay here, Yes he needed to do it.

Unfortunate that Berry looked up late and couldn't protect himself from immovable object and was opened up. May did not have time to avoid or anticipate what action Berry would make he prepared for the collision but did not charge or hang out and arm or elbow. We have been accused of soft football and this sort of statement is needed. We will not shirk, we will not be moved. It's why we must appeal. 

If Christian is going to charge on the look of things the charges will be endless. Don't bring the vibe into it.

I was referring to the Burton bump on Higgins, not May.

 

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1 hour ago, Smokey said:

Nothing in it. The watering down of our great game continues. 

Tough one for MFC - our backline is better with him there, and we could probably account for Port without him. Do we really want risk not having him available to match up on Hawkins in R2? Hawkins has a track record of belting anyone else we could put on him. 

There is no risk, extra week suspension no longer applies.

I've just seen the footage for the first time. Under the current rules I have no idea whether he should be suspended or not. But if we're fair dinkum about concussion and stamping out unnecessary on-field violence, then the rules should make it clear that any avoidable late bumps on players without the ball, whether they make contact with the head or not, will result in a suspension. That will stop it from happening. And that will be good for the long-term health of the players and the game itself. That would mean the only question to be asked with respect to this incident would be whether it was avoidable. 

May is a dummy, and clearly hasn't learned from his nine previous suspensions. I would much rather he took the week now and spent some time reflecting, rather than doing something equally stupid later in the year and costing the team when it matters more.

Was contact unavoidable? Possibly. Was it necessary to turn and collect a smaller player with hip and shoulder with first contact to the head? Clearly not. 

As much as there have been numerous other MRP decisions that are completely illogical, I don't have a problem with this one.

1 hour ago, poita said:

May is a dummy, and clearly hasn't learned from his nine previous suspensions. I would much rather he took the week now and spent some time reflecting, rather than doing something equally stupid later in the year and costing the team when it matters more.

Was contact unavoidable? Possibly. Was it necessary to turn and collect a smaller player with hip and shoulder with first contact to the head? Clearly not. 

As much as there have been numerous other MRP decisions that are completely illogical, I don't have a problem with this one.

Not your best work 

What the [censored] was he supposed to do ?

Step aside ? Bend over ?

He is supposed to create a contest. He is entitled to stand his ground. It's a game whereby you COMPETE 

All he did was guard himself. He could have absolutely killed Berry. He didn't. Berry is probably the most at fault here. Plainly had no idea of his surroundings. It's actually HIS responsibility to be aware. He plainly wasn't. HE has a duty of care to HIMSELF. He failed.

Run into a brick wall..... you're bound to get hurt. 

1 hour ago, binman said:

Leaving aside the suspension, it was plain stupid from may. Supposed to be leader.

Risks a suspension before he plays his first game for a new club. For what. Nada. Stupid 

Oh [censored]. 

 

39 minutes ago, loges said:

There is no risk, extra week suspension no longer applies.

Wasn't aware, thanks for letting me know. 

In that case, giddy up! I expect this to be reduced to a fine 

57 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

What was May's alternative? 

Superman dive away from the contest like the AFL’s love child Alex Rance

God knows I’d like to imitate what May did with idiots who walk on the footpath while reading their iPhones and not watching where they’re going 

5 minutes ago, In Harmes Way said:

God knows I’d like to imitate what May did with idiots who walk on the footpath while reading their iPhones and not watching where they’re going 

I’ve got a mate who does just that. 

Excellent entertainment. 

1 hour ago, Wells 11 said:

Re the " didnt return to the ground"accusation,  it was at the 18 minute mark of the last quarter ffs. Meaning he spent 10 mins ( unconcussed) off the ground. There's decent grounds to argue right there. Glad this club has grown some teeth again. 

correct. by the time a concussion test came back negative. the siren would have gone.