Farewell Jesse Hogan

[buck_nekkid 5,846]

31 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I would be playing Hogan off Half Back in 2019. I don’t think we have seen the best of Jesse yet. Not by a long shot. 

Personally i don’t think his kicking is good enough to be a key forward. 

But i certainly wouldn’t be trading him for pick 6

I think his field kicking is some of the best going around.  He has a few staggers at set shots, but watching him deliver on the move to another player is different.  I really rate this part of his game.  In a way, he could be a bigger version of Petracca for us.  Shifting him to HB could be an interesting idea, or using his power, marking and aerobic capacity on the wing (a great marking target as well) could be another option.  Personally I see him as the roaming CHF type who would be damned hard to match up on, with Weids and TMac deep.

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

Can't believe the myth that we look better with Jesse out is still going.

[Dr.D 1,771]

37 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I would be playing Hogan off Half Back in 2019. I don’t think we have seen the best of Jesse yet. Not by a long shot. 

Personally i don’t think his kicking is good enough to be a key forward. 

But i certainly wouldn’t be trading him for pick 6

finally a wise post

[Dr.D 1,771]

2 minutes ago, Dappa Dan said:

Can't believe the myth that we look better with Jesse out is still going.

myth? literally as soon as hogan went out we beat 4 top 8 teams in a row.  naive to think its coincidence. it also happened last season.

[Adzman 2,154]

I'm not convinced Hogan will leave, but if we got 2 top 10 picks in this year's draft (Neale pick and their own) and held on to them (not that keen on May) I would probably need to change my underwear.

 

 

[Die Hard Demon 1,224]

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/jesse-hogan-has-already-agreed-to-fremantle-deal-report/news-story/771978e959756b6212da4a3af3f1a9f9

Now he's apparently agreed to go to Freo .. How do these media outlets get approval to run with these headlines. 

[deebug 1,754]

7 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

finally a wise post

Yes i agree, Jesse is a Melbourne player and will still be a Melbourne player in 2019.

[D4Life 2,439]

8 minutes ago, Die Hard Demon said:

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/jesse-hogan-has-already-agreed-to-fremantle-deal-report/news-story/771978e959756b6212da4a3af3f1a9f9

Now he's apparently agreed to go to Freo .. How do these media outlets get approval to run with these headlines. 

Media like umpires not held to account for rubbish calls!!

[Wiseblood 24,637]

8 minutes ago, Die Hard Demon said:

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/jesse-hogan-has-already-agreed-to-fremantle-deal-report/news-story/771978e959756b6212da4a3af3f1a9f9

Now he's apparently agreed to go to Freo .. How do these media outlets get approval to run with these headlines. 

It's a disgrace, to be honest. No quotes, no proof, nothing.

[deebug 1,754]

9 minutes ago, Die Hard Demon said:

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/jesse-hogan-has-already-agreed-to-fremantle-deal-report/news-story/771978e959756b6212da4a3af3f1a9f9

Now he's apparently agreed to go to Freo .. How do these media outlets get approval to run with these headlines. 

I hope this is just BS and not true??

[MurDoc516 1,505]

Read the articles out there. All looking into things and taking words and spinning them. Jesse isn't leaving

[Grimes Times 1,278]

10 minutes ago, Die Hard Demon said:

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/jesse-hogan-has-already-agreed-to-fremantle-deal-report/news-story/771978e959756b6212da4a3af3f1a9f9

Now he's apparently agreed to go to Freo .. How do these media outlets get approval to run with these headlines. 

Now thats click bait.

Its an article about a article with no by line to it. 

If a reporter had that info they would put there name to it with an exclusive tag

[In Harmes Way 7,740]

I've got a mate in AFL Media - he was 100% convinced last year that Jesse was off. 

Seems to me they've recycled the same story again.

[Tony Tea 2,806]

9 minutes ago, Grimes Times said:

Now thats click bait.

Its an article about a article with no by line to it. 

If a reporter had that info they would put there name to it with an exclusive tag

Dont you love the media? In the article it says "The Australian’s Greg Denham reported on Tuesday that Hogan has agreed to a blockbuster deal with the Dockers and will force the Demons into a trade this trade period."

In Denham's article the closest he comes to saying that is "Should Hogan agree to return home, the Dockers will have to give up a first-round selection to Melbourne in return, which the Demons would have to on-trade to Gold Coast to secure May."

Nothing about agreeing to a blockbuster deal. If Hogan had agreed Denham would most certainly have said so.

[Demon Jim 149]

32 minutes ago, Die Hard Demon said:

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/jesse-hogan-has-already-agreed-to-fremantle-deal-report/news-story/771978e959756b6212da4a3af3f1a9f9

Now he's apparently agreed to go to Freo .. How do these media outlets get approval to run with these headlines. 

That might as well be the Betoota Advocate reporting

[Demons11 6,915]

50 minutes ago, KingDingAling said:

May is slightly better than Pederson was. 

?

[Demon Disciple 12,064]

love the lack of quotes and citing of sources there. FMD, journalism in this country is so amateurish, there is a complete lack of integrity.

Would get more accuracy from Chinese whispers than through media outlets nowadays, lol.

 

For the MFCSS sufferers out there, fear not. Hogan cannot sign a contract with Freo due to him having one in place with Melbourne until the end of the 2019 season. He can only sign off on one once we agree to trade him, which would result in the outcome being of great benefit to us, as oppose to being held over a barrel for scraps. Fear not.

[Wells 11 5,377]

What a load of absolute codswallop! denham simply guessing and people quoting Denhams " information" . Sheesh we live in a strange age. Plus there is no way in hell that,  even if Denham was right ( which I highly doubt)  that we would agree to trade him for ONE first round draft pick. Stupid  frikn story. My head hurts. 

[Grand New Flag 3,227]

Denham is only giving credit to made up rumours of Hogans departure fanned by some talk back radio hosts desperate to talk about something and posters from Demonland.

Also Hogan is worth a top 10 pick and a later first round pick as a minimum. Young but established Key Forwards are almost impossible to trade for.

[rjay 24,853]

Unfortunately if Denham has reported it, then it's likely to be on the money...

We're not talking Brad Hardy here, like him or not Denham is a serious journalist and has runs on the board.

[rjay 24,853]

@Pennant St Dee, how do you rate Freo's young key defender. Is is Pearce? and is he worth part of the deal?

If the story is correct I would be looking at a player plus...a pick or maybe 2 players.

We're in the so called window and don't need picks at the moment unless we can on trade them for needs.

[Diamond_Jim 12,529]

4 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

love the lack of quotes and citing of sources there. FMD, journalism in this country is so amateurish, there is a complete lack of integrity.

Would get more accuracy from Chinese whispers than through media outlets nowadays, lol.

 

For the MFCSS sufferers out there, fear not. Hogan cannot sign a contract with Freo due to him having one in place with Melbourne until the end of the 2019 season. He can only sign off on one once we agree to trade him, which would result in the outcome being of great benefit to us, as oppose to being held over a barrel for scraps. Fear not.

he could of course say... "trade me or I go next year" as a restricted free agent.

Life isn't straight forward... Players now decide... clubs take what they can get

[Wiseblood 24,637]

3 minutes ago, rjay said:

Unfortunately if Denham has reported it, then it's likely to be on the money...

We're not talking Brad Hardy here, like him or not Denham is a serious journalist and has runs on the board.

That's fair, but he never said Hogan had agreed to a deal. Just that Freo were going to offer him a massive deal and that they think they can get him, which is the same news we have heard for two years now. 

The other article ran with his news and then claimed he agreed to a deal,which is not what Denham said. It will snowball from here. 

[What 18,810]

Just now, Diamond_Jim said:

he could of course say... "trade me or I go next year" as a restricted free agent.

 

He would do that.   I dont think he'd screw Melbourne over.

[McQueen 17,864]

5 minutes ago, rjay said:

@Pennant St Dee, how do you rate Freo's young key defender. Is is Pearce? and is he worth part of the deal?

If the story is correct I would be looking at a player plus...a pick or maybe 2 players.

We're in the so called window and don't need picks at the moment unless we can on trade them for needs.

Isn't Jason Taylor on record as being very keen on young Ed Langdon? He's a small defender though...

Pearce is another Omac.

Edited September 25, 2018 by McQueen