Farewell Jesse Hogan

[KingDingAling 3,757]

16 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

 

 

 

That is brilliant. I love Hogan, but clearly he was homesick and plagued with issues not of his doing (father, etc). I hope he has a good career. I would love to see him in the red and blue again. He is the only high profile player we've lost that I genuinely hope does well at his new club. 

[jumbo returns 6,741]

9 minutes ago, KingDingAling said:

That is brilliant. I love Hogan, but clearly he was homesick and plagued with issues not of his doing (father, etc). I hope he has a good career. I would love to see him in the red and blue again. He is the only high profile player we've lost that I genuinely hope does well at his new club. 

Right.....so....what did you expect him to write??

[Blinkybill 276]

It looks like we got the best deal on the table

[faultydet 7,594]

1 hour ago, KingDingAling said:

Hogan is a gun. I never thought he was a forward though. Always thought he'd make a better CHB or FB. But, he doesn't strike me as the type of kid who wants to play down back. I reckon that may have been part the reason why we were keen to move him on. Either way, 6 & 23 is unders. But Jason Taylor works with whatever these muppets leave him. He will make 23 work. He is that good.

Remember that the gun player you wish for Taylor to pick up, needs to actually be available at that pick.

Granted, he has been amazing with his choices thus far, but we still rely on other recruiters missing the mark.

[Ethan Tremblay 30,856]

On 10/16/2018 at 2:47 PM, Ethan Tremblay said:

MAKE NO MISTAKE, DEALS WILL BE DONE. 

How does he keep on doing it? 

#ETthetradebreaker 

[ChaserJ 5,083]

1 hour ago, Tony Tea said:

I reckon Bennett left in 93, which is the same year Neitz arrived, so they may have played the odd game together. Bennett would probably have played with Schwarz. 

Regarding finals against Geelong. I don't remember a final against the Cats between 1989 and 2005.

Remember Schwarz, Bennett, Jako & Lyon lining up in the same forward line at times in 91-93

[jnrmac 20,058]

3 hours ago, Ron Burgundy said:

I'm relieved. I would’ve liked to get more than May plus pick 23 for Hogan (given that he's a marquee player), but I think this will improve our team structure/balance – and that’s what this is ultimately all about.

 

As an aside, Hogan always irked me. He was a perpetual fence sitter, a hedge better – in short, he never seemed to truly commit to the cause. And he looked super dopey.

 

On the other hand, Sam May is as hard as a box of nails. I think I love him. The KK bloke will be a rocket ship - his DNA goes back to the super effective Russian Kalashinkovs on the mid-1950s. He will be a great addition.

 

To sum up – a sensible trade. Hogan was never going to extend beyond next year, we knew that and we took control of the situation. Our defence next year will be impenetrable. Plainly, we have every other area of the ground well and truly covered.

 

I look forward to seeing Goodwin lift the Cup next year. Meanwhile, Hogan will be hanging out with his bozo mates at some under-age music festival in Yallingup smokin’ Winny Blues.

 

Now over to Jason Taylor to unearth some gems in the draft.

 

Go Dees.

Someone hack your account?

[jnrmac 20,058]

I'm hoping Andrew Brayshaw gets very homesick this year after his terrible incident with Gaff. Would only be right and proper that Freo let him come to Melbourne on compassionate grounds. We'd be happy to give you Bell-ends a future 4th rounder....

[Thehardtackler 785]

I hope that we play Freo twice next year and smash them both times. I am sure that our players will give Jesse some friendly banter. 

[daisycutter 29,612]

well i certainly don't think it was a fail, a loss, or anything like that

we have certainly filled a need

but i still feel that we got unders for hogan (not withstanding any navicular, back or 'character' issues) 

so, onwards and upwards

[Gorgoroth 12,942]

6 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

I'm hoping Andrew Brayshaw gets very homesick this year after his terrible incident with Gaff. Would only be right and proper that Freo let him come to Melbourne on compassionate grounds. We'd be happy to give you Bell-ends a future 4th rounder....

I would be very disappointed if we were not already into his ear.

[In Harmes Way 7,764]

19 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

How does he keep on doing it? 

#ETthetradebreaker 

Do you own a Delorean Ethan?

[P-man 13,366]

I’m content with the trade but some of the other trades are annoying me. Two first rounders for Beams. Burton (2nd in RS), pick 15 and second rounder for Wingard. Hogan is worth more than either of them.

Grass is always greener etc.

[Beetle 4,649]

3 minutes ago, P-man said:

I’m content with the trade but some of the other trades are annoying me. Two first rounders for Beams. Burton (2nd in RS), pick 15 and second rounder for Wingard. Hogan is worth more than either of them.

Grass is always greener etc.

The Beams trade is for pick 18 and likely pick 14-18 next year. 6 and 23 is a better deal, regardless of the the “first round” tag... in my opinion.

[P-man 13,366]

6 minutes ago, Beetle said:

The Beams trade is for pick 18 and likely pick 14-18 next year. 6 and 23 is a better deal, regardless of the the “first round” tag... in my opinion.

Fair call.

[buck_nekkid 5,852]

he wants to be in WA, but will spend half his time travelling to play footy!

[Sir Why You Little 37,018]

I am still sad. It will take a few days to walk away from this...

forwards have a special place in our game. 

[My name is legion 158]

He must have been offered a lot of money.

[Demon Disciple 12,118]

7 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I am still sad. It will take a few days to walk away from this...

forwards have a special place in our game. 

Umpires don't think so

[Sargent Shultz 267]

bugger.....ill have to pick another pseudonym now that Hogan has gone- his not my hero anymore. 

[layzie 33,793]

As Sam Newman would say “Oh well” 

[Gator 17,332]

I'd spend the next 3 years planting the seeds of a return.

It's a different landscape and he'll hate being the centre of attention in a small town over the next few years.

I know it's a silly thought, but I don't care.

[My name is legion 158]

1 hour ago, KingDingAling said:

That is brilliant. I love Hogan, but clearly he was homesick and plagued with issues not of his doing (father, etc). I hope he has a good career. I would love to see him in the red and blue again. He is the only high profile player we've lost that I genuinely hope does well at his new club. 

He’s lived on Melbourne for several years. Did he not make friends here? Doesn’t his Mum live in Adelaide now? It’s all about the money. Make no mistake. Why go to such a [censored] club when ours is on the way up?

[Lucifers Hero 39,730]

10 minutes ago, My name is legion said:

He must have been offered a lot of money.

Quite the opposite:  "Jesse Hogan has taken a significant pay cut to get back to his family in Perth and play for Fremantle".

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/hogan-accepts-pay-cut-to-join-fremantle-as-stars-switch-clubs-20181017-p50aa2.html

It makes his decision to go to Freo even more baffling: leaves a team on the brink of success for one at the bottom, takes only a three year deal and a pay cut.  Baffling.

Its no wonder we weren't able to get a better trade deal - much easier to get top picks if player is on a long-term multi $m deal.   Mahoney did a great job getting the deal he did.

Edited October 17, 2018 by Lucifer's Hero

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

Someone hack your account?

Nope - I think it’s an astute trade in circumstances where Hogan couldn’t commit to the club in the long term.

He obviously has his reasons for this but, as a supporter, it’s not great to have your club’s marquee player under a cloud of constant speculation as to when he’ll leave - and Hogan never really ever fully extinguished the speculation. Players come and go, that’s inevitable - but the narrative around Hogan always felt as though the club was walking on eggshells. And IMO the MFC no longer needs to be that club.

I wish him all the best - he’s probably a nice enough fellow and, as we know, he’s an exceptional player.

BUT I’m stoked to have Sam May and KK on our list. They are hard, and strike me as being stoked to have joined the MFC - I expect they’ll be totally invested in the journey. I want to see that, unequivocally, in every player on our list.

 

Edited October 17, 2018 by Ron Burgundy