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Losing Jack Viney

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Needs to play at Casey over the bye weekend, he can't go into the finals with out a run

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    37 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

    https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/08/20/injured-demons-skipper-viney-will-be-cherry-ripe-for-first-final-goodwin/

    Great news.  Selection for the first final will be very interesting, especially if we beat GWS and all the mids perform well.

    The only one that probably doesn't think this is great news is Tyson.

    I hope they know what they're doing this time as we really can't have Viney on the sidelines again for the next 8 months because he came back too early yet again.

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    if he comes back, based on the 22 that played yesterday and our current rate of injury returnees, i'd think it'd be spargo that he replaces

    i'm intrigued by the notion of him getting a run for casey during the bye week

    there's no reason we should even require special dispensation for that as both teams seasons are ongoing so he should be allowed to suit up, i think?

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    If Casey are playing finals at the time, Viney won’t be eligible to play.

    A player must have played 6 games or more to be eligible to take part in VFL finals. This rule was one of the ones created to stop teams stacking their VFL teams with AFL players come finals time to gain an unfair advantage.

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    18 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

    If Casey are playing finals at the time, Viney won’t be eligible to play.

    A player must have played 6 games or more to be eligible to take part in VFL finals. This rule was one of the ones created to stop teams stacking their VFL teams with AFL players come finals time to gain an unfair advantage.

    I think the rule changed last year:  if a player does not play in the last H&A game they can play VFL in the bye week. 

    Viney has barely played in 18 months so I reckon it would be a good idea to give him a VFL run, even for 10 minutes a quarter.  Partly to get a bit of match fitness and partly to see how the foot goes.  If he is going to break down again I would rather it be at Casey than in an Elimination Final.

    Edit: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-03-24/prefinals-bye-forces-vfl-into-new-eligibility-rule Quote:  The relevant clause states that 'if an AFL club's VFL team is playing on the bye weekend, any AFL-listed player who did not play in the AFL club's AFL team in the final round of the home and away season will be eligible to play in the club's VFL team.' 

    The provision is only applies to the VFL final on the bye round and not subsequent finals.

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    13 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

    If Casey are playing finals at the time, Viney won’t be eligible to play.

    A player must have played 6 games or more to be eligible to take part in VFL finals. This rule was one of the ones created to stop teams stacking their VFL teams with AFL players come finals time to gain an unfair advantage.

    I believe we got special permission to play him.

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    4 hours ago, Jaded said:

    I believe we got special permission to play him.

    Based on what?

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    On 8/13/2018 at 5:05 PM, ProDee said:

    Once again Jones doesn't stand up.

    He's a dumb and limited footballer, and he's certainly a poor onfield leader.

    How did Jones go on the weekend? Eat some humble pie, the guy carried our club through its worst period.

    Where is the respect.

     

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    Just saw Jack so I’ve got a bit of an update.

    I was driving and he was walking so I didn’t get a chance to speak to him.

    But in the split second that I drove past him, he didn’t seem to be in any discomfort. He wasn’t even looking at his feet. 

    Will try to write more later. 

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    16 minutes ago, Grapeviney said:

    Just saw Jack so I’ve got a bit of an update.

    I was driving and he was walking so I didn’t get a chance to speak to him.

    But in the split second that I drove past him, he didn’t seem to be in any discomfort. He wasn’t even looking at his feet. 

    Will try to write more later. 

    What sort of shoes was he wearing? Was he not looking down at his feet because he has an injured neck and can’t look down? Was he smiling? 

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    On 8/8/2018 at 3:00 PM, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    Oliver and Brayshaw have both been playing career best footy since Viney went out of the side after the Freo game.

    A coincidence?

    Maybe they realized that they had to....?

    On 8/20/2018 at 1:35 PM, Lucifer's Hero said:

    I think the rule changed last year:  if a player does not play in the last H&A game they can play VFL in the bye week. 

    Viney has barely played in 18 months so I reckon it would be a good idea to give him a VFL run, even for 10 minutes a quarter.  Partly to get a bit of match fitness and partly to see how the foot goes.  If he is going to break down again I would rather it be at Casey than in an Elimination Final.

    Edit: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-03-24/prefinals-bye-forces-vfl-into-new-eligibility-rule Quote:  The relevant clause states that 'if an AFL club's VFL team is playing on the bye weekend, any AFL-listed player who did not play in the AFL club's AFL team in the final round of the home and away season will be eligible to play in the club's VFL team.' 

    The provision is only applies to the VFL final on the bye round and not subsequent finals.

    Good idea to have a VFL run, since Wojinski isn’t playing ?

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    23 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

    What sort of shoes was he wearing? Was he not looking down at his feet because he has an injured neck and can’t look down? Was he smiling? 

    Mate, if I answer those questions, Jack won’t trust me to drive past him in the future. 

    I just can’t risk the relationship we have. 

    Sorry. 

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    On 8/8/2018 at 2:30 PM, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    Oliver and Brayshaw have both been playing career best footy since Viney went out of the side after the Freo game.

    A coincidence?

    Without Viney there definitely seems to be a greater 'sharing' of the ball, its carry and its disposal to a teammate.

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    47 minutes ago, Grapeviney said:

    Just saw Jack so I’ve got a bit of an update.

    I was driving and he was walking so I didn’t get a chance to speak to him.

    But in the split second that I drove past him, he didn’t seem to be in any discomfort. He wasn’t even looking at his feet. 

    Will try to write more later. 

    Was he in a full space suit rather than just a moon boot?

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    I hope they play Viney on a half forward flank or forward pocket. Team has found some rhythm so would be disappointing to upaet that too much just to squeese him in. Although you know he's the sort of player who will rise to the occasion

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    On 8/8/2018 at 3:00 PM, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    Oliver and Brayshaw have both been playing career best footy since Viney went out of the side after the Freo game.

    A coincidence?

    And Harmes.

    They have lifted their responsibilities.

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    1 hour ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

    What sort of shoes was he wearing? Was he not looking down at his feet because he has an injured neck and can’t look down? Was he smiling? 

    He's walking, because he can't sit in the car.  Constipation, sore hammy's, and glute.   Trying to walk it out. ?

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    Would be happy to play Cats at G in our final and pay them back for our 2 close losses this year. Viney in won’t hurt. Don’t think he played in either game.

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    Viney back in the side allows clarry to spend more time forward which is potentially a real weapon for us 

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    On 8/20/2018 at 11:41 AM, Petraccattack said:

    https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/08/20/injured-demons-skipper-viney-will-be-cherry-ripe-for-first-final-goodwin/

    Great news.  Selection for the first final will be very interesting, especially if we beat GWS and all the mids perform well.

    Based on the last couple of weeks, pretty easy selection choice - Spargo out; Viney in.

    Given many of our small-medium forwards play midfield at times, it'll just modify the midfield minutes for a few players.

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    12 minutes ago, Rogue said:

    Based on the last couple of weeks, pretty easy selection choice - Spargo out; Viney in.

     

    Yup, that will likely be the swap.   I will feel for Spargo who has played so much of the season and performed well, but hes 18 and had a long career ahead of him.

    Jack Viney for a tiring 18 year old is about a big as an upgrade as you can get.  Bring on the Elimination Final!

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    On 8/8/2018 at 3:09 PM, Fifty-5 said:

    It's impossible to fathom the thinking of many posters here.

    • "Viney upsets the balance of the midfield",
    • "Viney's not that good anyway",
    • "Viney will never play again".

    He's a bona fide star who won the 2016 B&F at 22.  He makes us better and I am hope he is able to get back for finals as planned.

     Thread gives almost as much as the Is Goodwin the guy one

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