The Jesse Incident

[ManDee 7,395]

The focus should be on the commentators calling an umpire a liar.

 

Edit:- Is this the only action on a football field caught by only one camera? Spare me, behind the goals vision would show it but nothing! Perhaps it doesn't suit the media beat up to show the facts.

Edit2:- Come on media show the vision of no contact to the throat.

Edited May 7, 2018 by ManDee

[FireInTheBennelly 4,104]

Intentional, high contact, [censored] force. 1 week.

[jnrmac 20,375]

17 minutes ago, hemingway said:

Every week we have the media beating up a story, whether it be a story on the successes or failures of a particular club (Richmond is the success and St Kilda the failure ) or a story coming out of a match (Hogan/McCartney).

Everything is dramatized and exaggerated for purposes of footy talk shows, journalists etc).   

We really have to try and ignore it because the media circus relentlessly moves on from week to week. 

I guess they achieve their objective by folks watching shows, reading articles and talking about it.

But so much of it is nonsense and just a waste of time. 

Despite their healthy remuneration, I do have some sympathy for the coaches and players who have to absorb this bilge and have to defend or justify their position. 

 

The prblem with this is that the media have already piled on saying "Jesse did this last year and needs to eradicate it out of his game" etc

It's total Bullshiite and he will now have a 'reputation' as a stager like Lindsay Thomas etc.

The club needs to defend Jesse strongly and tell the muppets in the media to [censored] off.

And while we are at it what Jetta getting punched in the face? The club should make a stand on this as well.

 

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,525]

I'm genuinely confused... there are two actions by Carslile.

A shove to the chest followed by a jab.  As the umpire explained on the broadcast, the second jab caught Jessie in the throat.

[Deemania since 56 6,808]

5 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

I love the victim blaming in AFL media.

Nevermind the bloke who punches another player, no issues there.

Renember in the JLT Oliver got a fine for a tummy tap against North Melbourne but those fines are no longer being given out.

Bludoath! Unforgettable?

[Redleg 42,156]

4 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

The prblem with this is that the media have already piled on saying "Jesse did this last year and needs to eradicate it out of his game" etc

It's total Bullshiite and he will now have a 'reputation' as a stager like Lindsay Thomas etc.

The club needs to defend Jesse strongly and tell the muppets in the media to [censored] off.

And while we are at it what Jetta getting punched in the face? The club should make a stand on this as well.

 

Totally agree Jr this is crap. Why is Goodwin not defending Jesse like other coaches would and do. 

Why is the punch to Jetta not being highlighted.

The umpire was a few metres away and side on with an unimpeded view and paid the free instantly. So therefore unless Jesse gets a smashed windpipe he is a stager. Give me a break. 

Ben Brown now goes to ground every arm chop and gets a free. No one calling him a stager. 

No other footy  stories today obviously so trash someone else’s reputation.

[binman 44,824]

2 hours ago, chook fowler said:

Carlisle should be the one suspended for stupidity 

i couldnt help yell out that this must be another example of carlisle being 'really mature', which is how he described himself in an article i read during the week in which he espousing his leadership skills.

Edited May 7, 2018 by binman

[david_neitz_is_my_dad 4,084]

Shouldnt even be a fine, where is the front on vision? I suspect it will make a debut on CH7 tonight

[Lucifers Hero 40,716]

I doubt he club/Goodwin are going to say anything: Goodwin in his press conf: 

“I would have liked him to kick the goal, but if there is commentary around it, I guess we will have a look at it during the week,” Goodwin said..“We want to be seen as a nice strong footy team.”

The word 'nice' was probably a slip of the tongue by Goodwin, but can't see the club saying anything publicly.  Altho' should he get suspended I would expect them to go all out get him off at the Tribunal. 

After all, he was on the other side of identical action last year and got two weeks.  As I said yesterday, Carlisle should be the one being cited and in the media gun!

[defuture15 902]

The worse one was the front on contact with Jetta.

No free kick. I think the st Kilda was bleeding from his face!

No free!

[monoccular 17,760]

2 hours ago, daisycutter said:

think he'll get a fine. a few precedents this year already. he did milk it.

most commentators say so.

strangely no comment on carlisle being cited. he should cop a fine for strike to throat (deliberate, high, minimal impact)

A fine for what? Being hit in the throat in full view of an umpire?

OMG. 

[Wiseblood 24,637]

Hogan has been cleared by the MRP.  Christian determined there was contact to the throat and, therefore, the reaction was not exaggerated. 

Common sense prevails for once! 

[beelzebub 23,392]

Why is Carlisle getting off scott free ?

[SFebes 4,884]

1 minute ago, beelzebub said:

Why is Carlisle getting off scott free ?

Because he pushed Jesse in the chest.....

[doc roet 1,302]

Just now, beelzebub said:

Why is Carlisle getting off scott free ?

Friggen why.

Should get 2 weeks!

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

Why was the crowd booing after the incident? It was very loud. Were they booing Hogan or Carlisle?

[Willmoy1947 4,261]

5 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Hogan has been cleared by the MRP.  Christian determined there was contact to the throat and, therefore, the reaction was not exaggerated. 

Common sense prevails for once! 

So now we have the ludicrous situation where we have "eradicated" Head punching but we have had numerous and probably more dangerous throat punching...hello....

I could have sworn we and the public were kept in the dark with no view until Collingwood's christians thought they would give it the thumb up.... 

[Diamond_Jim 12,773]

Just now, Wadda We Sing said:

Why was the crowd booing after the incident? It was very loud. Were they booing Hogan or Carlisle?

It was then and now considered a dive. Perception is more important than reality in the mass media.

[david_neitz_is_my_dad 4,084]

List of people who should say sorry and then [censored] off into the sunset is HUGE

[Redleg 42,156]

Jetta was punched in the face by Dunstan,  with the umpire right there. No reversal. No free. No report. No nothing.

 

[TheoX 1,222]

"he probably wouldn't be proud of this incident"

Seriously? He was punched in the throat, how about some scrutiny on the perpetrator in stead of the victim FFS.

[beelzebub 23,392]

9 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Jetta was punched in the face by Dunstan,  with the umpire right there. No reversal. No free. No report. No nothing.

 

I was gob smacked..and Nifty was literally. 

Nothing..wtf ???

Jettas face kinda said.." you did just see that ump ? " 

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

Totally sensible action taken. It wont stop the great football unwashed from calling Jesse a stager though. A bit like Oliver last year who did get hit in the chin.

I'm noticing a general seething hatred aimed at the demons in the media and public this year. Not as much as the Pies and Tigers get of course, but still. People seem to be very happy to pot us while talking up clubs who we've smashed.

[sue 9,277]

Interesting that the AFL website says:

Based on goalpost vision, Carlisle turns toward Hogan and makes contact with an open hand to the throat area. 

But doesn't provide the vision.  Could it be that would make a lot of the media buffoons embarrassed?

The reason Carlisle didn't get cited presumably was because it was an open hand, not a fist.  So rabbit killers are also now all OK then.  Just avoid the skull and go for the soft bits.

[Demonland 74,430]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-05-07/match-review-full-statement-round-seven

Contact between St Kilda’s Jake Carlisle and Melbourne’s Jesse Hogan from the third quarter of Sunday’s match was assessed. The ball was kicked through for a point with Carlisle and Hogan coming towards the goal square, after the ball has passed the line and registered a score. On the behind-goal vision, Carlisle turns toward Hogan and makes contact with an open hand to the throat area of the Melbourne player. The umpire in control of the play is within five metres and pays a free kick to Hogan for high contact. It was the view of the Match Review Officer that there was high contact made to the Melbourne player and the contact was not excessively exaggerated by Hogan. It was also the view of the match review officer that the force used in the contact was below that required for a charge to be laid, and no further action was required after the free kick was paid.