Match Preview and Team Selection - Round 6

[beelzebub 23,377]

24 minutes ago, Billy said:

Yep you’re a bandwagoner, so don’t come back, easy

To many supporters blowing their own trumpets saying how tough it is following this mob, l suppose we’ll see you when we start winning again.

l was born in 64, seen bugger all sucsess live 4 hours away and will continue to come down most weekends 

Weed out these so called supporters & it might help to change the culture 

Take a bow....champ..sorry chump.

You dont make any of the rules of life any of us need to be concerned with.

You are most welcome to live your Demon life however you wish and more power to you for following the Dees. 

But don't ever be so presumptive as to judge anyone else.

Go Dees

[samcantstandya 1,055]

50 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

I agree but as a small forward he is hopeless in front of goal.

Needs 2 practise his kicking 4 goal

[Deemania since 56 6,640]

1 hour ago, beelzebub said:

Id try something different. This will not happen as its a 'bridge to far' in terms of anything likely to have been part of trained- structures.

The better functioning area currently is defence. It still has canyons through it but its possibly the least dysfunctional. Lewis adds , for mine, a bit of stability. Our path to goal is stalling.  

Left field perhaps: ( but not untried ..in bits )

Play Weed out of the square as lead up fwd. Max resting there as swap out...ie Weed to pinch hit ruck to rest Max. Max CAN mark. Hed be a bloody nuisance for Ess defence. How to match up..stuffs their structure maybe.

Tmac CHF. Just cruise around provide target. He can/knows how to spot up ( in front arc lol )

Hogan as R/R like utility between the arcs... but swap with Tom as a psuedo rotation to keep our fwd 50 fresh...and stuff up their ideas about match ups. 

If the ball can make it into our 50 enough times Milkshake will have a good time..Spargo will be lively, hopefully wanting to impress... Fritsch is quite capable.

Ess were dlcking around the back a lot with the Pies. I don't think Collingwood put nearly enough fwd pressure on this. 

I can't see us winning by a mile but there's potential for exploiting their mediocrity.

This won't happen of course.. we'll be instructed to play dumb again.

 

 

Like these considerations, beezle ... interrupted, of course, by atrocious and multiple umpiring decisions against us as Essendrug are in a cleansing, goodie-boy mode as far as the AFL is concerned, and this will be reflected in the umpiring, for sure. Such umpiring reflects the intended game outcomes as if the Dons have 'paid for their sins, already'.

I'd like to see Goodwin shut up for a while, allowing the players to massage their game to fix any slumps across the timeframe. Goodwin has had his chances and these have failed the team - and us. 

[chook fowler 19,459]

31 minutes ago, samcantstandya said:

Needs 2 practise his kicking 4 goal

His 2 main attributes are running and tackling but beyond that his skills are atrocious 

[jnrmac 20,084]

1 hour ago, Billy said:

Yep you’re a bandwagoner, so don’t come back, easy

To many supporters blowing their own trumpets saying how tough it is following this mob, l suppose we’ll see you when we start winning again.

l was born in 64, seen bugger all sucsess live 4 hours away and will continue to come down most weekends 

Weed out these so called supporters & it might help to change the culture 

Wow. Have you painted your house red & blue? And your letterbox? I think you could be my Demon hero.

[Redleg 40,926]

1 hour ago, chook fowler said:

I agree but as a small forward he is hopeless in front of goal.

Disagree. He is a better kick for goal than our ruckman for one. 

Has kicked 29.23 in 49 games and averages .6 goals per game even though often played away from goal. 

Clearly not a silky mid but a hard at it lead up small forward. No champ but we don’t have too many of them. 

Edited April 28, 2018 by Redleg

[shorty 233]

1 hour ago, SFebey said:

Bring back the switch, where has it disappeared to?

It hasn't just Richmond and Hawks man up and have structure if you don't follow instructions you play in the two's. No point switching unless you are free in space. 

[ding 5,126]

1 hour ago, SFebey said:

Lol

Another nuff nuff who thinks if we all cheer harder, the team will win more games. 

Seems to be an epidemic on this forum lately.

[beelzebub 23,377]

56 minutes ago, shorty said:

It hasn't just Richmond and Hawks man up and have structure if you don't follow instructions you play in the two's. No point switching unless you are free in space. 

It didn't even look like we tried. No one there...all busy crowding ourselves up the line 

[Bossdog 2,002]

1 hour ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Like these considerations, beezle ... interrupted, of course, by atrocious and multiple umpiring decisions against us as Essendrug are in a cleansing, goodie-boy mode as far as the AFL is concerned, and this will be reflected in the umpiring, for sure. Such umpiring reflects the intended game outcomes as if the Dons have 'paid for their sins, already'.

I'd like to see Goodwin shut up for a while, allowing the players to massage their game to fix any slumps across the timeframe. Goodwin has had his chances and these have failed the team - and us. 

Wow         Great         Umpire bashing already.   I am sure that the AFL conspire to fix games for particular teams (not)

Umpires pay them as they see them, do not have the benefit of tv close ups or replays.   Yes they make mistakes but far less than players.    It doesn't help that they seem to have a rule of the week, every week but usually they do a fairly good job

 

[picket fence 17,170]

16 hours ago, shorty said:

I guess he follows the team rules, tigers won a flag doing exactly that.

As for Harmes I give up.

Both very very average park footballers! Ask yourself this which other sides would they get a game?

[P-man 13,366]

1 hour ago, ding said:

Another nuff nuff who thinks if we all cheer harder, the team will win more games. 

Seems to be an epidemic on this forum lately.

Careful now, you’re corrupting the culture with that kind of comment.

[Adam The God 30,260]

On 4/26/2018 at 3:09 PM, Clint Bizkit said:

This week the two teams will be playing for the 2002 Pick 10-Moorcroft Medal.

Wow. We traded pick 10 for Moorcroft? I'd forgotten that. What a horrible trade.

[Red and Bluebeard 2,084]

3 hours ago, beelzebub said:

Id try something different. This will not happen as its a 'bridge to far' in terms of anything likely to have been part of trained- structures.

The better functioning area currently is defence. It still has canyons through it but its possibly the least dysfunctional. Lewis adds , for mine, a bit of stability. Our path to goal is stalling.  

Left field perhaps: ( but not untried ..in bits )

Play Weed out of the square as lead up fwd. Max resting there as swap out...ie Weed to pinch hit ruck to rest Max. Max CAN mark. Hed be a bloody nuisance for Ess defence. How to match up..stuffs their structure maybe.

Tmac CHF. Just cruise around provide target. He can/knows how to spot up ( in front arc lol )

Hogan as R/R like utility between the arcs... but swap with Tom as a psuedo rotation to keep our fwd 50 fresh...and stuff up their ideas about match ups. 

If the ball can make it into our 50 enough times Milkshake will have a good time..Spargo will be lively, hopefully wanting to impress... Fritsch is quite capable.

Ess were dlcking around the back a lot with the Pies. I don't think Collingwood put nearly enough fwd pressure on this. 

I can't see us winning by a mile but there's potential for exploiting their mediocrity.

This won't happen of course.. we'll be instructed to play dumb again.

 

 

Interesting thoughts, as usual BB. Did you see the article on Lever recently, where he said that this year teams seem to be playing one or two tall forwards, not three as they were last year? The sample size for this year is probably too small to make that judgement yet, but it could be, just maybe, that we are thinking of 3 tall forwards plus Max drifting down there to stretch the opposition defence? Tmac and Hogan swapping the roaming role, especially when Tmac is relieving Max in the ruck, would leave at least 2 talls up forward ... personally I like it. And I think Weideman is more suited to the lead up role out of the square than as a relief ruckman, for now at least.

[beelzebub 23,377]

Just now, Red and Bluebeard said:

Interesting thoughts, as usual BB. Did you see the article on Lever recently, where he said that this year teams seem to be playing one or two tall forwards, not three as they were last year? The sample size for this year is probably too small to make that judgement yet, but it could be, just maybe, that we are thinking of 3 tall forwards plus Max drifting down there to stretch the opposition defence? Tmac and Hogan swapping the roaming role, especially when Tmac is relieving Max in the ruck, would leave at least 2 talls up forward ... personally I like it. And I think Weideman is more suited to the lead up role out of the square than as a relief ruckman, for now at least.

No I hadn't...all my own ramblings ???

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

5 minutes ago, A F said:

Wow. We traded pick 10 for Moorcroft? I'd forgotten that. What a horrible trade.

No, that wasn’t the trade.

I just couldn’t think of or find any recent Melbourne players that went to Essendon but now as a write this I remember Jamar and Magner went to the Bombers.

 

[Red and Bluebeard 2,084]

3 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

No I hadn't...all my own ramblings ???

From the "Lever quits social media" thread. Towards the end of the article it says:

This season that has dropped to two intercept marks, although Lever is figuring out how to handle smaller attacks.

“They’re sort of only going one or two talls this year whereas last year there were three talls for (nearly) every team, therefore I could play on that third tall.”

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/melbourne/jake-lever-says-he-had-to-delete-twitter-to-avoid-negativity-after-trade-to-melbourne/news-story/a63e26ab90138a2c2724aad008b4e8e7

[shorty 233]

1 hour ago, picket fence said:

Both very very average park footballers! Ask yourself this which other sides would they get a game?

I agree both average and they don't think either,  I don't see them long term in the 22.

 

[Adam The God 30,260]

On 4/27/2018 at 8:52 AM, Nasher said:

Reckon it’ll be Wagner instead of Hannan mate. I thought if they were serious about Hannan coming in, Harmes or ANB would have appeared on the extended bench (final changes always come from the extended bench, don’t care if anyone argues, they are wrong). I don’t see a need to fiddle with the back 6 and I reckon Wagner has been fine.

It was Fritsch for Jeffy, otherwise I was pretty close, mate.  

[Billy 2,530]

5 hours ago, jnrmac said:

Wow. Have you painted your house red & blue? And your letterbox? I think you could be my Demon hero.

Haha the letter box is, what colour is you’re house, beige?

Jnrmac after nearly 10,000 posts of your own dribble l think you deserve to be your own Demon hero

[DV8 2,271]

On 4/27/2018 at 8:45 AM, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I don't think you're the only MFC supporter that doesn't want to go this week.

If last year's game was any indication, there's going to be a very small Demon turnout on Sunday. Hopefully a lot of EFC supporters don't go either and the crowd will be as low as 20K (not out problem, not our home game!).

'The press', is making the game boring to watch, and destroys young teams who do not have the tank to run as hard both ways.

In the open games, the younger sides still perform well. and you can watch the game and enjoy its flow.

 

older eyes don't see so well into congested plays to see who's in theree and what the hell goes on inside the congestion. Its a pain in YouknowwattsIt.

[samcantstandya 1,055]

9 hours ago, chook fowler said:

His 2 main attributes are running and tackling but beyond that his skills are atrocious 

He take a big grab sometimes but his kicking is woeful

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

16 hours ago, SFebey said:

It’s hard isn’t it, I travel 2hrs to get to most Melb games and also fly to PERTH games. I’ve wasted so many weekends I’m starting to feel sick about it. Love the club and obviously want it to succeed but wasting weekends because of it.

Reason I’m annoyed at the moment is we’ve gone backwards in a big way and our skills are atrocious, I’m also very suspicious that there’s something not right within the four walls at the moment. Which I’m also sick of. 

Will go to bombers game but if we lose I’m taking some time off, especially if we dish up the same rubbish as the last 27 weeks. The headless chook game plan is just dumb and every supporter here can bloody see it, why so hard for coaches to fix.

That is the million dollar question SF.

I tell you what though, unless you fix some of the basic 101s of playing footy, you know ....the ones that we know this team struggles with within games week after week, no matter who the Coach (Coaches), you are going to have a damn hard job of implementing ANY game style with the mess we put out on the field most weeks/quarters.

Goody's main challenge is to get them to play the basics well as second nature along with sticking to the percentage plays that will give us our best chance to score, and as a result improve our chances of winning.

[Wolfturdo 123]

On 4/27/2018 at 9:39 PM, bing181 said:

Too difficult to check?

BEST 
Melbourne: Petracca, Gawn, Oliver, Jones, Hogan, Lewis
Geelong: Selwood, Ablett, Menzel, Duncan, Parfitt, Kelly 

You’re off your rocker if you think Lewis was in our best players that day. I don’t care what the news source you’re leaning on says.

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

On 4/28/2018 at 5:52 AM, samcantstandya said:

Harmes doesn't deserve a game. 

There are many that probably aren't worthy of an AFL game samcan given their form so far this season.  We only bat about 14 deep.

We wouldn't be able to field a team if you took that approach as we don't have the depth to cover 8 who are sub AFL standards at this point.

In the context of our team i have Harmes ranked at No.11 anyways.  While he is having an ordinary season so far he also has many below him worse off right now who are even more lucky to be getting a game.