Casey Demons v Frankston - practice match

[spirit of norm smith 16,459]

Angus Brayshaw is AFL quality. Needs to restart his career. DO NOT WRITE HIM OFF. KANGAS WOULD LOVE HIM ONBOARD. 

[DV8 2,271]

6 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Angus Brayshaw is AFL quality. Needs to restart his career. DO NOT WRITE HIM OFF. KANGAS WOULD LOVE HIM ONBOARD. 

So would the Perth based teams.

[WERRIDEE 5,479]

15 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Angus Brayshaw is AFL quality. Needs to restart his career.  

Rubbish he just has to bide his time, Wagner won't last long in the seniors nor will probably Bugg and Salem's selection isn't set in stone. Brayshaw will get his chance he just has to grab it with both hands.

[spirit of norm smith 16,459]

6 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

Rubbish he just has to bide his time, Wagner won't last long in the seniors nor will probably Bugg and Salem's selection isn't set in stone. Brayshaw will get his chance he just has to grab it with both hands.

Yes that my point. Just needs the games.  He was good in AFLX and preseason.   Needs to restart career through the MFC team 

[old dee 23,791]

58 minutes ago, BAMF said:

Is there a player remotely close to the fringe that 1) you like? 2) you want to do well?

When was the last time I wrote that I don't WANT a player to do well. Can't you tell the difference between discussing a player and canning one?

[bing181 9,238]

7 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

He was good in AFLX and preseason. 

 

Yes, but isn't that the point? He's "good" when for a player of his abilities, he should be doing better than that. Is he giving 110%, or is he falling back on his talent?

I also wonder whether or not there's still a lingering confidence issue in regard to the head knocks.

I'm sure he'll find his way back to the firsts.

[dl4e 5,851]

3 hours ago, ProDee said:

I'm guessing you didn't notice Balic ?

Did not know what jumper he wore but looking at the list on pg 1 then yes and he. played a decent game.

[Watts the matter 1,235]

16 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Yes that my point. Just needs the games.  He was good in AFLX and preseason.   Needs to restart career through the MFC team 

No he wasn't.

He was average in AFLX.

He was poor in JLT1.

He was good in JLT2.

 

[Miracle 89]

Gus - on the ball all day. Good but not a play me in the seniors game. 

Kent- outstanding. Marked everything clean pickups and great kicking. 

Frost - outstanding. Same as Kent. 

Balic was good and all the rest were in and out. Seven interchange players so lots of changes. 

[martin 727]

Any feedback on Joel Smith?

[Miracle 89]

Joel was a bit quiet. Reached for his hamstring near end but no ice so I guessed cramp. 

[Micksdemons 131]

1 hour ago, WERRIDEE said:

Rubbish he just has to bide his time, Wagner won't last long in the seniors nor will probably Bugg and Salem's selection isn't set in stone. Brayshaw will get his chance he just has to grab it with both hands.

If we lose tomorrow he could have any one of 10 spots 

[samcantstandya 1,055]

3 hours ago, DemonAndrew said:

perhaps brayshaw is not good enough for afl level

He's good enough and then some

[WERRIDEE 5,479]

1 hour ago, Miracle said:

Joel was a bit quiet. Reached for his hamstring near end but no ice so I guessed cramp. 

What about Johnstone, Keilty, Baker and Spargo?

[Willmoy1947 4,089]

I'm not a Doctor, even though i live in the jungle, but i would equate wisdom teeth removal on a young person who plays in one of the hardest contact sports in the world, and who has, in the past had severe concussion hits, to possible reason for not taking any chances.

I can wait for Viney and so too am i predisposed to wait for this good player.

[Willmoy1947 4,089]

2 minutes ago, willmoy said:

I'm not a Doctor, even though i live in the jungle, but i would equate wisdom teeth removal on a young person who plays in one of the hardest contact sports in the world, and who has, in the past had severe concussion hits, to possible reason for not taking any chances.

I can wait for Viney and so too am i predisposed to wait for this good player.

Maybe wrong thread sorry....

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,703]

Frost surely has to come back in next week, if we play 1 on 1 with Ben Brown our holes will become very enlarged.

Have to play with a spare a defender against the Roos, the guy has plenty of run and dare.

[Earl Hood 6,086]

5 hours ago, Dee Vo said:

Final score:  Casey 21.18.144  Frankston  5.3.33

Goals:  Kent 4, Weideman 3, Hannan 2, Scott 2, T.Smith 2, Lefau 2, King 2, Brayshaw 1, Kennedy-Harris 1, Filipovic 1, Dwyer 1.

Thought Frost and Kent were outstanding. Brayshaw tried hard and did some sublime things. Petty, Baker & Spargo all showed promise.

Is that avatar John Wayne playing Red Adair in Hellfighters DV?

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1 hour ago, samcantstandya said:

He's good enough and then some

... thats good, but being good-enough, isn't enough.

He has to show it, to prove it, before he gets the game.

 

The D's 2018, do not gift games, to ANYone. 

 

That's a bygone era of kindness, that reaped a lot of failures.   Kindness does not belong on the arena of battle; during the game.

[Vogon Poetry 2,095]

It was one of the better days at Casey today, light wind, good conditions and a lot of MFC on display.  Here are my observations of the Demons:

 

Kent:  He was clean, fast, kicked well, dangerous and clearly better than the opposition and most of his teammates.  He covered a lot of ground and looked strong and determined.  He played a very good 4 quarter game and would certainly have put his name forward.  He looked well ahead of Hannan for a spot in the 22.

 

Hannan:  He was pretty good.  He played midfield and forward and found a bit of the ball.  He made a few mistakes by foot but he has speed and a great sidestep.  He had quiet patches during the game and struggles put 4 quarters together but he displayed the skills we know he has.  My observation with Hannan today is he lacks the leg strength to break or stand up in a tackle so it's easy for the opposition to hinder him when he has the ball.  A number of times he won the clearance at the centre bounce only to have a fairly innocuous tackle laid which either knocks him over or knows him badly off balance.  As a result, he's not very effective as other than an outside player.

 

Brayshaw:  Unlike others, I thought he was very good today.  He started in the centre and got leather poisoning early and used it well most of the time.  He is strong around the ball and tackles hard.  He played forward for a lot of the game and kicked a few and gave a few off.  He was spent at the end but never stopped presenting and creating.  I wish he was in the team tomorrow and is just waiting for an opportunity.

 

Spargo:  Started forward and was busy early and had an opportunity to goal which he unfortunately missed.  Had a quiet second quarter but was moved on to the ball in the third and got involved around the ground.  He's quick without being really quick (if you know what I mean) and he's clean with the ball.  He is very aware of teammates and continually looks to do something with the ball.  His disposal is good and he has clean hands.  He's small, think Caleb Daniel, but there is a lot to like.  A good hit out but a fair way down the pecking order.

 

Frost:  Best game I've seen him play.  He marked really strongly, ran and broke lines, kicked very well and was clean.  He monstered his opponent and was clearly our best defender but there wasn't a lot of pressure on.  This kid has attributes and is still learning the game but if he had to play tomorrow you'd be pretty relaxed on today's form.  Excellent performance.

 

JKH:  Was pretty good doing what we know he can do at this level.  He played a lot as a high half forward and linked up well and won his fair share of the ball but given the type of player he is he misses too many opportunities at goal and often doesn't hurt with his disposal.  He's showing signs as a classic 'tweener and he'd be behind a lot of players for a spot I'd think. 

 

Weideman:  Played as a forward target and was on the end of some good passes and kicked some good goals.  Found a fair bit of the ball.  He appears to me to have bulked up a lot from the last time he played, still nicely agile but his upper body looked a lot bigger to me.  Most interestingly he played a fair bit in the ruck and did very well, winning a number of centre bounce taps and finding his target.  He was also very involved around the ground and used the ball well.  If he keeps this form up he'll push to take Peddo's spot but one wonders how Hogan, McDonald and Weideman fit in the one forward line.  It was a very encouraging performance especially seeing he missed a lot of preseason.

 

Balic: Was fantastic early when he came on.  He has great vision and found the ball well and often.  He's quite a big body and won a fair bit of contested ball and his kicking was pretty good.  He's got clean hands and always looks to do something with the ball.  He's not quick at all but seems to have the ability to find a bit of space when he needs it.  I was impressed and would think he'll play at some stage this year.

 

Baker:  Started on fire as most of the team did running hard playing wing and half forward (if those positions exist anymore).  He is quick, has very good hands but is prone to the occasional "blunder".  His field kicking was pretty good, he knew where to go to get the ball and he goes 100%.  He's a good size and clearly has X factor and is well worth a spot on the list.    

King:  Won the ruck comfortably, looks nicely coordinated, kicks well and took a nice grab in the goal square in the third.  It was a solid effort without being in any was spectacular.

Petty:  I’m pretty excited by this guy.  He reads the play very well, is a good mark and has clean hands and good vision and he executes his kicks very well.  Was part of a solid back group and will develop into a good footballer I’d think.  He didn’t get that many opportunities given the game but hardly put a foot wrong.

Johnstone:  Didn’t see him much at all until the last quarter where he was involved a bit.  On today's performance he’d be behind any number of players for a spot but he works hard, can kick it well when he gets it and pressures the opposition. 

Smith:  This kid is so athletic and has a great physique it’s hard to think he’s not a key position player.  He didn’t do a lot and in racing parlance will be better for the run but he did some good cameo’s and was noticeable when he got it.  It’s hard to believe he won’t make it when you see him run around the footy field but he does need to get involved a bit more.

Smith:  Played well, very well at times.  Got to the right places, kicked for goal beautifully, worked hard, very clean in the air and clearly favourite amongst the players.  My issue with Bull is he doesn’t get involved when the ball hits the ground as much as he should.  He does the 1%ers but just being part of the play is not his strong suit (in contrast to Weid who was involved in general play a lot around the ground.).  But it was a good game.

Keilty:  Had very little to do but did what he had to do well.  Frost seemed to hog the ball when it did go into our defence but Dec competed well and I doubt his opponent did anything much.

Filipovic:  Looked likely at times.  Kicked a great goal from a fair way out and competed well in the ruck.  He’s clearly third ruck in line but he showed enough athleticism and footy smarts to think given a fair bit of time he’ll be a useful ruckman.

 

In writing this keep in mind I don’t have an eye for the defensive side of the game so a player I think has done very well might have played his role poorly.  Also the opposition was poor.  At times they had a go but really it was a bit like watching the first quarter of the MFC v Saints JLT game.  We played well and dominated and in those circumstances it’s hard to know if the domination is us or them but I was impressed by the general skill level, the commitment and particularly the cohesion of the team play.

[whatwhat say what 22,757]

Fab write-up vogon

Of those mentioned, who do you think is looking fit and ready for afl-level intensity and who needs some more run in their legs?

[spirit of norm smith 16,459]

Great summary. 16 MFC listed. 

24 up in Brissy for Lions game

Missing are : Viney. Tmcd. McKenna.  Vandenburg 

[dworship 3,342]

3 hours ago, willmoy said:

Maybe wrong thread sorry....

Ha, never be sorry, you are a D supporter.

Anyway, people on this forum will cane you whatever you say or do

[Frustrated Demon 244]

6 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Great summary. 16 MFC listed. 

24 up in Brissy for Lions game

Missing are : Viney. Tmcd. McKenna.  Vandenburg 

Is there a chance we will never see McKenna play at any level this year? Also I think Vandenburgs time is up which is a pity as I loved watching him play.

[D4Life 2,475]

Thanks Vogon Poetry, great insight on the players sitting outside the current team.

I thought Kent was gone after a horrible 2017, so terrific to hear he did well and pleased to hear Frost went well, as his speed could be an asset.