Post Match Discussion - Round 1

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

Vince showed Lewis a thing or two about leadership in the second half.

[Monocology 1,109]

Halmes' game a positive 

[TRIGON 4,783]

31 minutes ago, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

Jordan Lewis, grow up!

Lewis started the rot in the second quarter. The sooner he’s out of our best 22 the better!!!

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

I would really like to know how many second quarters we have lost/gone to sleep/not turned up......it seems a thing over the last 2 years and i would like to know an actual number and what is possibly the cause..ie is it a purpose wind down in order to run out the game or what??

The pace of the game was amazing for round 1. Was like a final from 10 years ago.

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,828]

Howe about

FFS: will someone kick a clear clinch goal!!!  I love Gawn, but that was not acceptable - drop to to the VFL.

[Jaded No More 68,916]

8 minutes ago, pbrown said:

that 50m penalty he gave away in the 2nd killed us. he mouthed off to the umpire about the decision he knows better

Agreed. Pathetic leadership from a player who is there for the money and nothing else. Some sort of leader he is!

 

[Forest Demon 4,681]

The frustrating thing is I already know we can match Geelong, so I can't take any positives from just running them close.

Every concern I had from last year was only amplified today. The mental demons are still there.

[Lord Travis 10,730]

Can't question the effort. Can question the terrible decision making. Constant bombing forward to outnumbered contests. Defenders all flying for the same ball and none staying down.

We bullied Geelong in every way today and still managed to lose. Embarrassing to lose that one. We are a far better team than them now and we need to start playing like it.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

We still fumble so much and panic when tackled.

On the other hand Geelong often got hands clear and were clean with the ball.

We also run over the ball far too often when it’s on the ground.

[DSP 1,488]

1 minute ago, Wadda We Sing said:

I would really like to know how many second quarters we have lost/gone to sleep/not turned up......it seems a thing over the last 2 years and i would like to know an actual number and what is possibly the cause..ie is it a purpose wind down in order to run out the game or what??

The pace of the game was amazing for round 1. Was like a final from 10 years ago.

I dont know the number. If its not the 2nd quarter, its us being asleep for the first 15 mins.

Its an all too common problem.

[Hot as Hell 466]

We played Geelong's weakened best 19 fit players and were found short. 

Optimists around here need to take note about how we play under pressure. 

I will stick with my 13 to 15 win season and we limp in around 6th to 8th to play finals. Making up the numbers. 

I will be happy to go to games like today and win a few and lose a few. 

Don't expect better sides to let us off so lightly.  

Our backline is full of holes that will not be plugged and we have to play some aging players who are simply better than their immediate substitutes. 

I coach with 1 year under his belt and a my way or the highway style is not ready to take us any further for a few years yet. 

 

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,828]

3 minutes ago, Monocology said:

Halmes' game a positive 

No where in the second qtre

[Jaded No More 68,916]

3 minutes ago, Demon77 said:

Vince showed Lewis a thing or two about leadership in the second half.

Agreed. Sure he’ll get suspended but that’s how you make a stand, not giving away a 50 for mouthing off like an idiot. 

Our leadership continues to be a problem. Jones was good, but FMD our senior players have no idea. Jetta was good as always and I don’t know why he isn’t in the leadership team. More of a leader than Lewis!

[Tony Tea 2,809]

What was that I said - over and over - about getting smarter going forward?

[ding 5,126]

8 minutes ago, BrisbaneDemon said:

I flew down for the game, am absolutely gutted, Gawn needs to fly with two hands, Maynard and Wagner are not AFL level footballers, there was none of our pressure today, Geelong just did what they wanted from kick outs today.  You better turn up next week MFC the Lions are no easy beats.

lol THAT is why you are so angry after a loss....

Figures.

Enjoy the trip home.

[Demon Disciple 12,128]

4 minutes ago, Demon77 said:

Vince showed Lewis a thing or two about leadership in the second half.

Thought he had a better overall game, and loved his toughness today Bernie.

Lewis started having an impact when he was moved to being the sweeper in defence. Lever needs to learn how to better play on his direct opponent. They exploited the cr@p out of him today.

[loges 6,767]

How was the zone working today? In the first half they had so much space it looked like we were zoning off everyone. Having said that some of the wrist slashing is over the top.

[DSP 1,488]

1 minute ago, Clint Bizkit said:

We still fumble so much and panic when tackled.

On the other hand Geelong often got hands clear and were clean with the ball.

We also run over the ball far too often when it’s on the ground.

Agree about over running the ball. It compounds too, as we normally have more than one culprit in the pack at once that does it.

[John Crow Batty 8,863]

Inside 50’s, 64 to 41. 23 more than them. Another blow out quarter. We won the other three. Same old issues. 

Edited March 25, 2018 by america de cali

[Lord Travis 10,730]

Our whole defence had a poor game. Jetta had a rare bad game. Lever was poor. Wagner was horrific. O Mac got outbodied repeatedly. Both Hunt and Hibberd lacked their usual spark. Salem played more midfield but had a shocker, potentially due to that big fall in the first half.

Our mid/small forward were shocking too. Jeffy and Hannan barely got involved bar 2 minute cameos. Nibblers output was well down. Harmes had a good second half but was missing in the first half. Oliver and Petracca rotating down there were our most dangerous options, but we need them in the middle to get it down there in the first place!

Petracca, Oliver, Jones, Hogan and Gawn all had a dip, even if they weren't super clean.

[Demon Disciple 12,128]

2 minutes ago, Hot as Hell said:

I coach with 1 year under his belt and a my way or the highway style is not ready to take us any further for a few years yet.

Jury is still very much out on Goodwin's coaching ability. How does he allow these continual lapses in effort? Whatever he's trying to get them to do is not working good enough for long enough.

[Demon Disciple 12,128]

1 minute ago, america de cali said:

Inside 50’s, 64 to 41. 23 more than them. Another blow out quarter. We won the other three. Same old issues. 

That is damning. Gotta find another avenue to goal when Hoges is up the ground.

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

Dont forget Menzel missed 2 sitters in the last....just sayin

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

4 minutes ago, Jaded said:

Agreed. Sure he’ll get suspended but that’s how you make a stand, not giving away a 50 for mouthing off like an idiot. 

Our leadership continues to be a problem. Jones was good, but FMD our senior players have no idea. Jetta was good as always and I don’t know why he isn’t in the leadership team. More of a leader than Lewis!

Suspended? Are you talking about the incident when Vince had the ball and steamrolled the Cats player in our defensive 50 in the 3rd?

 

[Jaded No More 68,916]

Just now, Lord Travis said:

Our whole defence had a poor game. Jetta had a rare bad game. Lever was poor. Wagner was horrific. O Mac got outbodied repeatedly. Both Hunt and Hibberd lacked their usual spark. Salem played more midfield but had a shocker, potentially due to that big fall in the first half.

Our mid/small forward were shocking too. Jeffy and Hannan barely got involved bar 2 minute cameos. Nibblers output was well down. Harmes had a good second half but was missing in the first half. Oliver and Petracca rotating down there were our most dangerous options, but we need them in the middle to get it down there in the first place!

Petracca, Oliver, Jones, Hogan and Gawn all had a dip, even if they weren't super clean.

I thought Oscar was good considering their forward dominance. Hawkins with 1 goals, I’ll take that! 

The defensive setup was garbage until the last. Why was Melksham there instead of forward where he excels? Why was Wagner selected? 

Lever had an absolute stinker of a game and he would want to improve quick smart. If he can’t play on a man he’s a dime a dozen loose defender.

Our midfield was good but the forward 50 entires were awful and we played Garlett Hannan and Frisch in the same team, which is a big no from me.