7 hours ago, nosoupforme said:

Petty is very lean but plays smart for his age. He is our future and this kid  had to wait for his turn again . This time he looked that he can belong out there with the best of them. Harry will improve and when he has a couple of preseasons  and puts a bit of size on him might he end up being a Key  CHB. Is certainly worth persisting with. Only a 19 yo.

I would like to see Hunty off half back breaking the lines receiving a Petty handball and kicking one of his trade mark goals like he used to.  M Hore is a great pick up and has been a consistent performer as well.  The youngsters are doing ok.

Some good points Nos.

Have been a Petty fan since his highlight reel and nothing has changed my mind. Even his disastrous debut that was so ill timed (and Coach/selectors) created! Cost us a double chance!!!

Harrison is not Lewis replacement'!

Hore  is on field and Lever is the General to martial the troops.

Also Nev and Hibbo may not be lock ins if they are not in top form (Nev needed real to mind small or mid size players)

Petty 3rd tall I reckon and prob CHB And he has plenty of upside some tricks that need honing but his base is solid and he has native good skills and a bag of footy smarts in team play and one on one play!

Size is fine with some added bulk!

Other observations :

ANB has to develop his game to not just run but get the ball and tackle without fumbling and excel under pressure resulting in goals not just joe the goose!

Billy is a one pace player ( might have reputation as fast but is not) and kicks shallow 49 m in the air and delays momentum when in general play plus not sharp nor adept at footy smarts. Despite his professionalism  it does not benefit the AFL team as the VFL. Must be ability but had 23 games to save his career.

Oscar and Frost at their best are adequate defenders but any level below that AND under pressure or on an AGrader come up short. Depth would be great with May Lever and Petty plus All our flankers in good form ( take you pick from Nev down to Josh W as top to bottom)

Angus is in la la land at present get him back in the middle ASAP Goody. If Husain is to get pace etc on the wing and outside he has not convinced Angus or he has not read the memo (email)

Oskar 2 should be fine once he settles in to the frenetic activity and realised that running fast is not the only skill required fir AFL. Will be good on the G in front of the Northern and Members Stands as we have our own Isaac Smith it Brad Hill albeit with red flash!! Hopefully for nearly a decade!!

We need to recruit 2 small forwards like Ryan and Rioli  (Chandler May be one ) but X factor players with 8 possessions and 3 match winning goals are priceless and modern footy demand these in your team.

Also we  need to recruit skilled ball movers by hand and foot ( virtually outside mids or wingers and flankers) as we have enough contested beasts on our list. (Ie inside mids)

wr have under utilised Pruess who like Trac won't be best used by us if his fitness level does not elevate dramatically!

Our fitness and High Performance staff are underwhelming and sad to say maybe underperforming this season at least.

Ditto our Coaches (Assistants mainly the forward  Mid and Defence all need moving on and fresh ideas to support Goody)

Goody has to be more flexible While logic suggests he has reviewed the Prelim Final disaster with the coaches and maybe not the players ALL LOGIC says you must learn from defeat no matter how not US it was. I can honestly say spread from the packs and a confidence level plus West Coast  were super slick turned on and match ready like an AFL side should be! Also I dont believe the Coachiing panel have read or discussed the new rules for 2019 at least till about Round 6!! Have not seen us take advantage of the full back run and carry options with slow and careful 30 m kickers like Salem and Lewy still kicking out. Mix it up with Hunty running and a torp occasionally.Be daring and 666 May as well be a tennis score!!

A full review no matter where we finish ( unless we win flag!!!!') like at Geelong in 2006 at seasons end is necessary.

Other than that and the fact that we ahave introduced some new players from Casey into the team (needed in some spots ) and injury has killed any momentum in 2019 2020 should be business as usual back in the top 4/6 or as predicted for this season. 

Hore Petty Baker And Lockhart are good finds and Jordan and Chandler with more VFL and pre season plus Stephen May fitter wool enormously assist our depth next season.

Not writing off 2019 as last Friday night showed with ball use and goal kicking skills up 10/20% on the day/night 2028 is not such a distant memory.

Go Dees

 

5 minutes ago, 58er said:

Some good points Nos.

Have been a Petty fan since his highlight reel and nothing has changed my mind. Even his disastrous debut that was so ill timed (and Coach/selectors) created! Cost us a double chance!!!

Harrison is not Lewis replacement'!

Hore  is on field and Lever is the General to martial the troops.

Also Nev and Hibbo may not be lock ins if they are not in top form (Nev needed real to mind small or mid size players)

Petty 3rd tall I reckon and prob CHB And he has plenty of upside some tricks that need honing but his base is solid and he has native good skills and a bag of footy smarts in team play and one on one play!

Size is fine with some added bulk!

Other observations :

ANB has to develop his game to not just run but get the ball and tackle without fumbling and excel under pressure resulting in goals not just joe the goose!

Billy is a one pace player ( might have reputation as fast but is not) and kicks shallow 49 m in the air and delays momentum when in general play plus not sharp nor adept at footy smarts. Despite his professionalism  it does not benefit the AFL team as the VFL. Must be ability but had 23 games to save his career.

Oscar and Frost at their best are adequate defenders but any level below that AND under pressure or on an AGrader come up short. Depth would be great with May Lever and Petty plus All our flankers in good form ( take you pick from Nev down to Josh W as top to bottom)

Angus is in la la land at present get him back in the middle ASAP Goody. If Husain is to get pace etc on the wing and outside he has not convinced Angus or he has not read the memo (email)

Oskar 2 should be fine once he settles in to the frenetic activity and realised that running fast is not the only skill required fir AFL. Will be good on the G in front of the Northern and Members Stands as we have our own Isaac Smith it Brad Hill albeit with red flash!! Hopefully for nearly a decade!!

We need to recruit 2 small forwards like Ryan and Rioli  (Chandler May be one ) but X factor players with 8 possessions and 3 match winning goals are priceless and modern footy demand these in your team.

Also we  need to recruit skilled ball movers by hand and foot ( virtually outside mids or wingers and flankers) as we have enough contested beasts on our list. (Ie inside mids)

wr have under utilised Pruess who like Trac won't be best used by us if his fitness level does not elevate dramatically!

Our fitness and High Performance staff are underwhelming and sad to say maybe underperforming this season at least.

Ditto our Coaches (Assistants mainly the forward  Mid and Defence all need moving on and fresh ideas to support Goody)

Goody has to be more flexible While logic suggests he has reviewed the Prelim Final disaster with the coaches and maybe not the players ALL LOGIC says you must learn from defeat no matter how not US it was. I can honestly say spread from the packs and a confidence level plus West Coast  were super slick turned on and match ready like an AFL side should be! Also I dont believe the Coachiing panel have read or discussed the new rules for 2019 at least till about Round 6!! Have not seen us take advantage of the full back run and carry options with slow and careful 30 m kickers like Salem and Lewy still kicking out. Mix it up with Hunty running and a torp occasionally.Be daring and 666 May as well be a tennis score!!

A full review no matter where we finish ( unless we win flag!!!!') like at Geelong in 2006 at seasons end is necessary.

Other than that and the fact that we ahave introduced some new players from Casey into the team (needed in some spots ) and injury has killed any momentum in 2019 2020 should be business as usual back in the top 4/6 or as predicted for this season. 

Hore Petty Baker And Lockhart are good finds and Jordan and Chandler with more VFL and pre season plus Stephen May fitter wool enormously assist our depth next season.

Not writing off 2019 as last Friday night showed with ball use and goal kicking skills up 10/20% on the day/night 2028 is not such a distant memory.

Go Dees

 

Billy had 13 games not 23 to save his career at MFC.

Pick 37?! Certainly doesn't play like a pick 37

On 11/24/2017 at 8:41 PM, Return to Glory said:

Let's just hope he's not a heartbreaker.

woops

Disappointing to hear that he is going on for surgery on his groin tomorrow and will miss a large chunk of the season. I rate him highly and thought he looked quite promising as Key Position player that can take a contested grab and play either end of the ground. I believe he is out of contract this year so would love to see us sign him up soon. 

1 hour ago, Nascent said:

Disappointing to hear that he is going on for surgery on his groin tomorrow and will miss a large chunk of the season. I rate him highly and thought he looked quite promising as Key Position player that can take a contested grab and play either end of the ground. I believe he is out of contract this year so would love to see us sign him up soon. 

Delist. 

3 minutes ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

Delist. 

no... 1-2 years at low pay (assuming KK retires)

Put in heavy KPI's if he wants upside

The new normal

Baker is the other player who seems to have gone sideways

Edited June 23, 20204 yr by Diamond_Jim

Just now, Diamond_Jim said:

no... 1-2 years at low pay (assuming KK retires)

The new normal

Baker is the other player who seems to have gone sideways

Delist both. And the Wagners. All replaceable. We need to go after a forward next year. Jones will retire and some money will open up. Petty seems to be a good mark, but I’ve rarely seen him finish off his good work with goals. This includes watching him at Casey. 

3 minutes ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

Delist. 

Many more candidates ahead of Petty for a delist. We are very short on tall key position players at the moment. 

Just now, Earl Hood said:

Many more candidates ahead of Petty for a delist. We are very short on tall key position players at the moment. 

There are 7 blokes I’d delist at year’s end, he’d be middle of the list. I’d chase another KPF in the fringes at another club or state league

4 minutes ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

There are 7 blokes I’d delist at year’s end, he’d be middle of the list. I’d chase another KPF in the fringes at another club or state league

I thought you were joking but your serious. He was very promising last year and injured this year. No way should he be delisted. I think he would be in our best 22 ahead of Smith if he was fully fit. He's a keeper unless there was a suitable trade for him.

15 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

I thought you were joking but your serious. He was very promising last year and injured this year. No way should he be delisted. I think he would be in our best 22 ahead of Smith if he was fully fit. He's a keeper unless there was a suitable trade for him.

Petty may turn out to be decent depth, he turns 21 this year so he has time on his side, but gee wiz if we're throwing around Petty and Smith as "best 22" then we're not going very far in the near future.

Gotta be honest. I think Petty is vastly overrated on here.

9 hours ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

There are 7 blokes I’d delist at year’s end, he’d be middle of the list. I’d chase another KPF in the fringes at another club or state league

again should have looked last year at guys like Finlayson. The club put allist faith in Wied and T Mac which was wrong

9 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Petty may turn out to be decent depth, he turns 21 this year so he has time on his side, but gee wiz if we're throwing around Petty and Smith as "best 22" then we're not going very far in the near future.

Petty is a footballer, Smith a jack in the box.

1 hour ago, BAMF said:

Gotta be honest. I think Petty is vastly overrated on here.

You might be right.

Played a good game against the Dogs last year with 3 goals and then showed bits and pieces in the following 4 games before getting injured.

I don’t think you could conclude that he was going to be a gun off the back of 4 games.

11 hours ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

Delist. 

It depends on what the AFL does with list sizes. If clubs need to cut list sizes down due to the financial impact of COVID19, then we may need to clear out 10-15 players. If that's the case, Petty is gone. Anyone who is out of contract and isn't a star would be out the down, as we wouldn't be able to afford to pay out others instead. 

I like Petty and think he could be a decent player given time. He showed a bit up forward as a marking target, though his kicking for goal left something to be desired. His fate may be decided by COVID19 fallout.

57 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

You might be right.

Played a good game against the Dogs last year with 3 goals and then showed bits and pieces in the following 4 games before getting injured.

I don’t think you could conclude that he was going to be a gun off the back of 4 games.

Well for what it is worth, I really like Petty and think he will be very good for us. He is big and a great mark and just needs to improve his set shot kicking.

I was desperate to get Rivers with our last pick and that is looking ok atm.

The other kid I have been a big wrap on since we got him is Jordon and I am following his progress with great interest.

54 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

You might be right.

Played a good game against the Dogs last year with 3 goals and then showed bits and pieces in the following 4 games before getting injured.

I don’t think you could conclude that he was going to be a gun off the back of 4 games.

I should clarify... 

He showed promise and did play a few good games. I just feel that a few posters on here think that promising games equal future gun player.

I'm not convinced with his move to the forward line.

I haven't seen this guy for so long I've forgotten what he even looks like. 

I am still bullish about him. I think when he gets back from his injury he may be quite useful!

12 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

I thought you were joking but your serious. He was very promising last year and injured this year. No way should he be delisted. I think he would be in our best 22 ahead of Smith if he was fully fit. He's a keeper unless there was a suitable trade for him.

I'd delist weideman and Brown before Petty who will be stronger and has shown a bit more in his total games. and can play both ends.

2 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

You might be right.

Played a good game against the Dogs last year with 3 goals and then showed bits and pieces in the following 4 games before getting injured.

I don’t think you could conclude that he was going to be a gun off the back of 4 games.

nor can you conclude he will be ordinary. its such early day, but he showed good promise.

13 hours ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

Delist. 

Is this an april fools joke?

14 hours ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

Delist. 

Ridiculous. 20 year old.  Key position player with two years development.  A lot of this type don’t start to show until 21-23 at least. Can play CHB or CHF.  Plenty of others ahead in the delist category.