Farewell Jack Watts

[Die Hard Demon 1,152]

1 minute ago, Dee tention said:

FfI dont think any damage would have been done between Goody and Watts. Grown men! Goody is a realist... And there is nothing wrong with that. 

I actually think the playing group would have even more respect for Goody now! I liked Goodys B&F speech. BRILLIANT!

If Jack stays or goes he will be thankful in the end. Because I do believe Jack will get the best out of himself from this moment on. This situation would have been a shick to the and a life changing event.

I think the Dees would have been wanting Cats Pick 20 or a decent player. Cats ruled themselves out as there not even close in dealing. 

On the other hand, I think the Power are more desperate in getting Jack. Pick 29 wont get it done though. I wouldnt think!

But if they deal Pick 29 and there 2018 2nd round (approx. Pick 34). Trade gets done!

I cant see Jack going to Sydney.

We'll take pick 29 for Watts in a heartbeat.

[rolling fog 1,146]

There's too many moving parts at Geelong at the moment with the Ablett, Motlop, Lang etc deals all up in the air

[beelzebub 22,241]

Watts going to happen in 2018 ?

[JV7 2,339]

Gary Buckenera sums it up well in his article on our list. 

The Demons are keen to trade Jack Watts but what are they going to get for him? Clubs are smart and know it’s likely Melbourne needs to move Watts to free up space in the salary cap, along with the form issues, to accommodate Lever, so will they be willing to take a bit less in a trade?

If that is the case then I’d keep him. He wants to stay and given it’s a work ethic issue maybe this has been the kick up the backside he needed. Watts is more valuable to Melbourne than a late second or third-round draft pick because that’s all I’d be spending on a 26, turning 27-year-old, forward who is still inconsistent and whose work ethic is questionable.

The highlighted part has been my issue all along

Edited October 11, 2017 by JV7

[beelzebub 22,241]

fwiw..I dont think the salary cap has any bearing at all. 

[Dr.D 1,771]

people still thinking he's going to stay? LOL. 

We'll accept anything to get him out the door. The club doesn't want him, get it through your minds!

[sue 8,457]

Just now, beelzebub said:

fwiw..I dont think the salary cap has any bearing at all. 

Dunno about us, but it seems it is an issue at one or two of the other clubs looking at Watts

[Leoncelli_36 2,264]

2 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

fwiw..I dont think the salary cap has any bearing at all. 

Fwiw it's pretty common knowledge that Melbourne are stretched and will need space next year when several key players will need contract renewals 

[beelzebub 22,241]

1 minute ago, Dr.D said:

people still thinking he's going to stay? LOL. 

We'll accept anything to get him out the door. The club doesn't want him, get it through your minds!

I certainly hope we wont just accept anything. If this isn't all farcical enough it would make a mockery  of it for sure.

It now appears it will be up to Port to satisfy the. club.  I have no idea with what or whom.

I would in reality ( in my gut ) think he , Watts must be gone, but life is odd at times and footy makes for even stranger resolutions.

Likelihood of Jack departing must be very high. Absolute certainty ?    I'm not game

[Dee tention 611]

14 minutes ago, Die Hard Demon said:

We'll take pick 29 for Watts in a heartbeat.

I dont think we will...

I have the gut feel he stays.

[Go the Biff 3,172]

2 minutes ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

Fwiw it's pretty common knowledge that Melbourne are stretched and will need space next year when several key players will need contract renewals 

Such as ? Gawn will probably cost a bit. Trac can anticipate a pay rise. Who else ? The Macs perhaps ?

[CityDee 738]

Jack -‘ Ah listen Simon - I just want someone that will back me in ‘

Simon - ‘Jack , look , Ive been sitting back here watching you do things in patches that only a handful of players in the comp can do , Im not sure I can coach you to do that consistently ‘

Jack - ‘ I know Ive let the club  down in a few areas but Im here to work hard be treated like any other player and i reckon its time we put the gloves on ‘

Simon - ‘what ? ‘

Jack - ‘ Let me show ya Simon , Ive been over to Vines house the last month and learnt a few tricks ‘ 

Simon - ‘Ok jack ‘

Weird dream last nite . 

 

[Jibroni 4,147]

I cant imagine the club thinking he is worth more than Pick 29 considering the level of apathy we are showing towards him.

Feels like a pointless exercise letting Jack go.

 

[beelzebub 22,241]

6 minutes ago, sue said:

Dunno about us, but it seems it is an issue at one or two of the other clubs looking at Watts

This might be part of any equation as well. We will have already factored in his money.

[drdrake 3,045]

12 minutes ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

Fwiw it's pretty common knowledge that Melbourne are stretched and will need space next year when several key players will need contract renewals 

If we are stretched it is the most over paid list in AFL history.  Our club and players have done nothing since 2006, we have improved but still haven't embarked on a finals campaign for a very long time

[Dr. Gonzo 22,523]

14 minutes ago, JV7 said:

Gary Buckenera sums it up well in his article on our list. 

The Demons are keen to trade Jack Watts but what are they going to get for him? Clubs are smart and know it’s likely Melbourne needs to move Watts to free up space in the salary cap, along with the form issues, to accommodate Lever, so will they be willing to take a bit less in a trade?

If that is the case then I’d keep him. He wants to stay and given it’s a work ethic issue maybe this has been the kick up the backside he needed. Watts is more valuable to Melbourne than a late second or third-round draft pick because that’s all I’d be spending on a 26, turning 27-year-old, forward who is still inconsistent and whose work ethic is questionable.

The highlighted part has been my issue all along

The highlighted part seems to be the footy departments issue

[rolling fog 1,146]

Just now, drdrake said:

If we are stretched it is the most over paid list in AFL history.  Our club and players have done nothing since 2006, we have improved but still haven't embarked on a finals campaign for a very long time

This

[Dee tention 611]

I expect the Dees to announce Jack will playing in the Red & Blue by mid next week or possibly as early as end of this week...

[billyblanks29 184]

Lewis

Hibberd

Melksham

Lever

Not cheap. We need a bit of wriggle room.

I'd take pick 29 for Watts. Could draft a very good player still.

[jnrmac 19,113]

1 hour ago, Wiseblood said:

Stephen Wells just said on Trade Radio that the Cats are unlikely to be able to do a deal for Jack Watts to come to Geelong.

So why in the world did they bother with a tour and showing some interest in him?  Or are the Cats being tight with what they have?  Either way, sounds more and more like Jack will head to Port Adelaide.

Because they are a professional club and you never know what might eventuate. Unlike our 'old' club that didn't bother to interview Dustin Martin.

[FarNorthernD 5,848]

7 minutes ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

Fwiw it's pretty common knowledge that Melbourne are stretched and will need space next year when several key players will need contract renewals 

I'm pretty sure we are well run and would have our salary cap under control.  If this is true however and we have allowed ourselves to get into salary cap trouble then my confidence in the Club just nose-dived somewhat

[Satyriconhome 9,986]

1 hour ago, DubDee said:

he doesnt care who plays for the Dees once they give 100%

he finds all the hysteria in this thread amusing and looks down his nose at us fools.

but he is crying on the inside

Nearly right, have opinions on players, don't always share them, but in this case

Watts, agree with FD , for whatever reason is not where he should be in terms of consistency of performance after 9 years and can understand where Goody is coming from

If he goes, he goes, 22 make a team, support whoever is on the field in that 22 representing the Red and Blue

I find most threads amusing, some of the unintended hilarity is breathtaking 

[rolling fog 1,146]

Wonder if McCartney is in Goodwin's/the FD's ear about Watts. He was all about contested football and pressure at the Bulldogs. 

Also noticed that he didn't get much of a thanks at the B&F from some players, namely Trengove.

[beelzebub 22,241]

[beelzebub 22,241]

21 minutes ago, billyblanks29 said:

Lewis

Hibberd

Melksham

Lever

Not cheap. We need a bit of wriggle room.

I'd take pick 29 for Watts. Could draft a very good player still.

Strangely Jack has been at the club  prior to any of them. Jack's remuneration  cant be a surprise.

If he's being pushed out for cap space it makes an absolute lie of everything said to date by the club.

There's much we still dont know