Farewell Jack Watts

[beelzebub 22,225]

41 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Honestly, I think it will come down more to who pays his salary than squabbling over pick 25 vs pick 40.

Might well be something in that.

Which then makes me think the return to the club will be token. 

All for what ? 

[old dee 22,854]

4 minutes ago, hemingway said:

Just don't know why folk can't accept there are a range of different views on an emotional and rational level. 

Why is it that some of us simply cant accept these differences? We should be able to treat one another respectfully without the dismissive comments?  What we view as right and wrong is influenced by one's own personal perspective. 

Most of the reasons on"keep versus trade"' Watts are equally valid. What weight you give to those reasons may bring us to different conclusions but most of the reasons expressed on this thread are accurate and fair.. 

Personally I would keep Watts on the basis of his 2017 season and because of his skills and what those skills bring to the team. I also think there are other players that I would trade before Watts. However, I also recognize that his lack of intensity and failure to chase is infuriating and at times, soft. I am as critical as anyone on this aspect of his game. His lack of defensive pressure does impact the team.

We all have our differences but no one on this site is smarter or better than anyone else.  

Not sure you will get universal agreement on that one Ernest

[Roger Bonnici 16]

Without hesitation we must keep Watts he is the link player to finish off he's not on much money I've seen a few other players that turned it up in 2017 what about the Brisbane game need Hogan to kick six and a goal on the final siren to win by 15 points and guess what Wattsy wasn't playing please have a good think about it we are sending a player to a possible final 8 Club that most likely will come back to haunt us what for a late 2nd or 3rd round pick someone will be laughing and it won't be Melbourne supporters believe me

[Deemented Are Go! 3,602]

FFS get the deal done, already. Please!

 

[Roger Bonnici 16]

10 minutes ago, old dee said:

Not sure you will get universal agreement on that one Ernest

I agree but how many other players displayed intensity against Collingwood we needed to win to make finals most did not chase so few tackles in the first quarter yet Goodwin sacks Watts were any of you at the last game so it was Wattsy's fault we never made finals give me a break

[hardtack 10,127]

7 minutes ago, Roger Bonnici said:

Without hesitation we must keep Watts he is the link player to finish off he's not on much money I've seen a few other players that turned it up in 2017 what about the Brisbane game need Hogan to kick six and a goal on the final siren to win by 15 points and guess what Wattsy wasn't playing please have a good think about it we are sending a player to a possible final 8 Club that most likely will come back to haunt us what for a late 2nd or 3rd round pick someone will be laughing and it won't be Melbourne supporters believe me

Can you please use punctuation... that really was very hard to read.

[Lord Travis 10,163]

Reportedly is down at Geelong today and has been in a meeting with them for over two hours at this point and it seems very positive. Looks like he is off to the Cats.

They have picks 20 and 33. Can we get pick 20? Trading him for 33 seems like a loss to the club. 20 is acceptable.

[Roger Bonnici 16]

1 minute ago, Lord Travis said:

Reportedly is down at Geelong today and has been in a meeting with them for over two hours at this point and it seems very positive. Looks like he is off to the Cats.

They have picks 20 and 33. Can we get pick 20? Trading him for 33 seems like a loss to the club. 20 is acceptable.

Cats won't offer pick 20 why should they, it all depends what Melbourne have in mind can't see them accepting pick 33

[old dee 22,854]

4 minutes ago, Roger Bonnici said:

I agree but how many other players displayed intensity against Collingwood we needed to win to make finals most did not chase so few tackles in the first quarter yet Goodwin sacks Watts were any of you at the last game so it was Wattsy's fault we never made finals give me a break

My point RB was not about Watts but his comment about everyone on Demonland agreeing that all contributors are equal.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

2 hours ago, Grand New Flag said:

MFC have been working/shopping the Watts trade this morning.

MFC have inquired about Zac Jones Plus pick or player in exchange for Watts. Although this was not outright rejected by Sydney, Sydney indicated this was unlikely. Zac is a required player.

Did you just get this from the rumours page?

[At the break of Gawn 3,497]

Anyone listen to Roos on MMM around midday? He said that Watts was given no indication in the exit interview that he was going to be traded. Apparently the exit interview went ok (not great) but he certainly didn't think it was leading to a trade. If true, then that's poor transparency from Goodwin on that front. 

[Roger Bonnici 16]

4 minutes ago, old dee said:

My point RB was not about Watts but his comment about everyone on Demonland agreeing that all contributors are equal.

You did say his lack of intensity and chasing infuriated you, that's why i made that point 

[beelzebub 22,225]

2 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

Anyone listen to Roos on MMM around midday? He said that Watts was given no indication in the exit interview that he was going to be traded. Apparently the exit interview went ok (not great) but he certainly didn't think it was leading to a trade. If true, then that's poor transparency from Goodwin on that front. 

There is a great deal in that , if one cares to consider for a moment or two 

[hemingway 7,589]

26 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Ernie, there's the "unknown" element as well - what he does when he's not on the field. The coaches and Leadership Group know this us supporters don't other than the snippets we hear here and there.

Agree, we never know the full story. Like the decision of a Court. We may read the judgment and take a view about it, but rarely sit all day in Court listening to the evidence. 

[old dee 22,854]

1 minute ago, Roger Bonnici said:

You did say his lack of intensity and chasing infuriated you, that's why i made that point 

 

1 minute ago, Roger Bonnici said:

You did say his lack of intensity and chasing infuriated you, that's why i made that point 

RB I think you have the wrong guy.

I was comment on a comment by Hemingway's comment as follows

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35 minutes ago, hemingway said:

Just don't know why folk can't accept there are a range of different views on an emotional and rational level. 

Why is it that some of us simply cant accept these differences? We should be able to treat one another respectfully without the dismissive comments?  What we view as right and wrong is influenced by one's own personal perspective. 

Most of the reasons on"keep versus trade"' Watts are equally valid. What weight you give to those reasons may bring us to different conclusions but most of the reasons expressed on this thread are accurate and fair.. 

Personally I would keep Watts on the basis of his 2017 season and because of his skills and what those skills bring to the team. I also think there are other players that I would trade before Watts. However, I also recognize that his lack of intensity and failure to chase is infuriating and at times, soft. I am as critical as anyone on this aspect of his game. His lack of defensive pressure does impact the team.

We all have our differences but no one on this site is smarter or better than anyone else.  

Not sure you will get universal agreement on that one Ernest.

 

I think you have the wrong guy and comment

[whatwhat say what 18,940]

1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

after an aggressive attack on the ball, jack is now only 5 runs behind jake

who will be first to the 150 milestone. i'm tipping jack

gotta admit, my favourite part of this thread is checking the run rate

[Ethan Tremblay 28,389]

2 hours ago, Grand New Flag said:

MFC have been working/shopping the Watts trade this morning.

MFC have inquired about Zac Jones Plus pick or player in exchange for Watts. Although this was not outright rejected by Sydney, Sydney indicated this was unlikely. Zac is a required player.

Any chance you could be even just remotely more inventive? This exact thing was posted in the ‘trade rumours’ thread yesterday. 

[rolling fog 1,146]

8 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

Anyone listen to Roos on MMM around midday? He said that Watts was given no indication in the exit interview that he was going to be traded. Apparently the exit interview went ok (not great) but he certainly didn't think it was leading to a trade. If true, then that's poor transparency from Goodwin on that front. 

What show was this on Gawny? 

Might try to track it down...

[Roger Bonnici 16]

7 minutes ago, old dee said:

 

RB I think you have the wrong guy.

I was comment on a comment by Hemingway's comment as follows

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Not sure you will get universal agreement on that one Ernest.

 

I think you have the wrong guy and comment

Yep your correct sorry it was hemingway that made the comment appologise

[hemingway 7,589]

15 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

Anyone listen to Roos on MMM around midday? He said that Watts was given no indication in the exit interview that he was going to be traded. Apparently the exit interview went ok (not great) but he certainly didn't think it was leading to a trade. If true, then that's poor transparency from Goodwin on that front. 

That is my concern. Watts reaction at learning that he could explore other options obviously came as a shock. So he has either misunderstood or misinterpreted what was being communicated or the club was not upfront or clear in its communication. In any event, the way this has played out in the public domain has been unfortunate. 

[Scipio 5,868]

21 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

Anyone listen to Roos on MMM around midday? He said that Watts was given no indication in the exit interview that he was going to be traded. Apparently the exit interview went ok (not great) but he certainly didn't think it was leading to a trade. If true, then that's poor transparency from Goodwin on that front. 

Unless Watts' handling of his exit interview is what convinced Goodwin he needed to be traded?

[rpfc 27,467]

24 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

Anyone listen to Roos on MMM around midday? He said that Watts was given no indication in the exit interview that he was going to be traded. Apparently the exit interview went ok (not great) but he certainly didn't think it was leading to a trade. If true, then that's poor transparency from Goodwin on that front. 

I really hope that isn't true.

[Smokey 4,126]

17 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Any chance you could be even just remotely more inventive? This exact thing was posted in the ‘trade rumours’ thread yesterday. 

Because heaven forbid anyone has a life outside of Demonland and doesn't have the time to trawl through 100's of comments across multiple threads before posting an opinion 

[Grand New Flag 3,226]

30 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Did you just get this from the rumours page?

I read it on the Rumors Page and then directly asked to confirm or otherwise.

[Sir Why You Little 34,459]

14 minutes ago, Luther said:

Unless Watts' handling of his exit interview is what convinced Goodwin he needed to be traded?

Exactly...Poor old Wattsy is even oblivious when it is all in front of him. 

I wonder who runs his board short operation?