POSTMATCH DISCUSSION - Round 20

[Redlagged 806]

Main problem - we lack class. Have no great players.We have a lot of good ones, some very good, but no A grade talent. (I wait on Pettrarca, with diminishing hope.) Our two genuine competition-class players are defenders: Hibberd and Jetta. So we are doomed to mid-table, at best.

[demon4eva 110]

After all that glory we are tenth now. 

[McQueen 17,864]

 

1 hour ago, praha said:

What's calling for him to kick more if it's not a critique on his influence? 

Very good point.

[Vogon Poetry 2,095]

How many targets has Hibberd hit lately?

[Dee Zephyr 17,757]

6 minutes ago, Vogon Poetry said:

How many targets has Hibberd hit lately?

He has been.... well I'll stop short of saying awful,  cant handle the ball it seems the last two weeks, last week falling over, today fumbling a lot.

[Ethan Tremblay 28,447]

21 minutes ago, demon4eva said:

After all that glory we are tenth now. 

Completely disappointed and let down. Other teams in our position seem to work harder while we think close enough is good enough. 

[jackaub 1,402]

They are on drugs surely maybe they have a huge bet not to make the eight it beggars belief really 

talk to other teams supporters  they reallly rate Melbourne Me I almost cant be bothered any more so sad

[ding 5,126]

Guys, the good news is that we are still in the hunt for a TOP 5 DRAFT PICK !!!!!!!

The Crows will appreciate our efforts if Lever nominates us lol.

[The Swimming Dee 1,858]

3 hours ago, 3Dee said:

Scoreline flattered us, 

 

3Dee this made me laugh. Larry is so great! 

Thanks for taking my mind off the loss 

[Diamond_Jim 11,889]

Collingwood doing well against North....to be expected

[JV7 2,339]

FFS... Can't believe I drove 7 hours to see this sh*t, genuinely thought we'd get the win today & after the first 3 goals was up and about.... Have to win the last 3 to make the finals & I have no confidence in that!

Edited August 5, 2017 by JV7

[layzie 29,092]

59 minutes ago, Redlagged said:

Main problem - we lack class. Have no great players.We have a lot of good ones, some very good, but no A grade talent. (I wait on Pettrarca, with diminishing hope.) Our two genuine competition-class players are defenders: Hibberd and Jetta. So we are doomed to mid-table, at best.

Especially when it comes to ball use. I worry when the commentators say we need to get it out to Hibberd and Vince in an overlap. Get good ball users!

[RalphiusMaximus 5,993]

9 minutes ago, layzie said:

Especially when it comes to ball use. I worry when the commentators say we need to get it out to Hibberd and Vince in an overlap. Get good ball users!

The lack of skill and clean hands is concerning, but it's the complete lack of cohesive forward play that kills us.  The only plan we seem to have is to bomb to the "hot spot" and hope for a mark or a crumber.  Everyone knows we're going to do it, so their defence sets up to counter and they rebound the length of the ground and score almost every time. 

Beyond it being about the most idiotic tactic in the game, this plan is also killing poor Jesse as it's forcing him to stand under the high bomb and get mobbed rather than playing to his strengths and roaming about, running his man into the ground and winning the one-on-one contests.  Quite frankly he should be looking for a trade to a club that's not going to set him up to fail like that.  What we're doing is going to ruin him.  None of our forwards are suited to that role.  We need to sort that [censored] out and have an actual plan for creating space in the forward line and getting the talls working together to block and create opportunities for each other. 

[jackaub 1,402]

1 hour ago, dieter said:

The other factor to remember is that we are still overall just about the youngest team - average age - games played and goals scored.

As Roos pointed out after our fade-out last year, the team is still mostly composed of boys and very young men. They look nackered, example, Hunt, Petracca, and too many have just come back from serious injury: Gawn, Jones, Viney, Watts, Salem, Smith, Hogan etc etc

There is a time for every season, ours has yet to come...

That is Crap Dieter

[dieter 3,325]

Just now, jackaub said:

That is Crap Dieter

Just look at the results: they are what they are.

[leave it to deever 15,931]

1 hour ago, Biffen said:

3 of the arsiest goals I've seen in about 5 minutes .

When the Scully goal happened I knew it wasn't our day.

99 times out of 100 that never happens.

Then the umps started plucking.

Yea that bounce was the curse coming back. Its a cruel mistress this game.

[layzie 29,092]

2 minutes ago, RalphiusMaximus said:

The lack of skill and clean hands is concerning, but it's the complete lack of cohesive forward play that kills us.  The only plan we seem to have is to bomb to the "hot spot" and hope for a mark or a crumber.  Everyone knows we're going to do it, so their defence sets up to counter and they rebound the length of the ground and score almost every time. 

Beyond it being about the most idiotic tactic in the game, this plan is also killing poor Jesse as it's forcing him to stand under the high bomb and get mobbed rather than playing to his strengths and roaming about, running his man into the ground and winning the one-on-one contests.  Quite frankly he should be looking for a trade to a club that's not going to set him up to fail like that.  What we're doing is going to ruin him.  None of our forwards are suited to that role.  We need to sort that [censored] out and have an actual plan for creating space in the forward line and getting the talls working together to block and create opportunities for each other. 

Yeah the forward structure hasn't been right for the majority of the season. We've had our little band aid solutions here and there like TMAC up front but it's not enough. Forward pressure non existent either, we rely so much on Jeffy chasing someone down. I hate this forward setup 

[Coq au vin 754]

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[dazzledavey36 48,938]

Jesus.. check the final score after my game of footy and couldn't believe it..

What the hell happened?? We're we really that bad, or were GWS really that good?

[John Crow Batty 8,266]

We are now reduced to the proverbial mathematical. 

[Coq au vin 754]

We'll finish 11th as I've said many times. We're missing a tall defender or two and a tall forward.  Our forward setup is atrocious. 

[RalphiusMaximus 5,993]

1 minute ago, Diamond said:

We'll finish 11th as I've said many times. We're missing a tall defender or two and a tall forward.  Our forward setup is atrocious. 

Not a tall forward.  A decent forward line coach. 

[Dee Zephyr 17,757]

8 minutes ago, layzie said:

Yeah the forward structure hasn't been right for the majority of the season. We've had our little band aid solutions here and there like TMAC up front but it's not enough. Forward pressure non existent either, we rely so much on Jeffy chasing someone down. I hate this forward setup 

I miss Bugg!

[Coq au vin 754]

4 hours ago, Pates said:

Got to win the next two for that to be the case, and that's very far from a certainty. One week at a time, we've got to find a way to win next week, seems to me the players have lost some confidence. 

The gutless loser players have stopped playing for this year. Why would we even bother following this [censored] team this year or next?

[Coq au vin 754]

5 minutes ago, RalphiusMaximus said:

Not a tall forward.  A decent forward line coach. 

Both