WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - BEN BROWN

[buck_nekkid 5,507]

Just now, Half forward flank said:

And I think we need more Kozzis before a Ben Brown especially when we have TMac still around and Luke Jackson.

Another small forward would be high on my shopping list, too.  I dont think Sideshow Bob was a ‘needs’ play, more an opportunistic one.  I would think we saw the opportunity and decided it was an unexpected windfall.  If he nominates us, he will play more games than most players selected in the second round of most drafts.  I also think you can’t judge a deal in isolation, and the final balance of the draft and trade period is when it is reasonable to assess the result.

[Wiseblood 24,636]

2 minutes ago, Demons1858 said:

Disagree with you again ... “We are confident his concussion issues are over ... "  Mahoney told SEN Breakfast. Seems like you're the one guessing

Well, why wouldn't they be, seeing as he played a few games for us when we first got him?  That would indicate he was over them, especially as there is no chance he would have played with concussion symptoms in this current climate.

He then got further knocks to his head and that has brought the symptoms back to the fore, as it would for anyone.

I'm not guessing.  Just the cold, hard facts right there.

[Half forward flank 1,022]

1 minute ago, buck_nekkid said:

Another small forward would be high on my shopping list, too.  I dont think Sideshow Bob was a ‘needs’ play, more an opportunistic one.  I would think we saw the opportunity and decided it was an unexpected windfall.  If he nominates us, he will play more games than most players selected in the second round of most drafts.  I also think you can’t judge a deal in isolation, and the final balance of the draft and trade period is when it is reasonable to assess the result.

Fair comment. I am on the opportunistic and to an extent there is nothing wrong with that, however I had hoped we were more strategic than that now. 

[bing181 8,175]

9 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

It's the same on any forum.

Of course. But for some people, just blocking or ignoring isn't a solution. D'land, like most social media, can quickly turn personal, even nasty, and some people just don't need that in their lives. If that's the case here, good on Skuit for doing what he needs for his own well-being and mental health.

[Wiseblood 24,636]

3 minutes ago, bing181 said:

Of course. But for some people, just blocking or ignoring isn't a solution. D'land, like most social media, can quickly turn personal, even nasty, and some people just don't need that in their lives. If that's the case here, good on Skuit for doing what he needs for his own well-being and mental health.

Fair point, bing.  If Skuit wants to step away for his own well being then he has my full support.  

Hopefully he can stick around in the future as his contributions to the site are worthwhile.

[hardtack 10,127]

1 hour ago, A F said:

You are becoming tiresome.

Becoming???

[Axis of Bob 10,260]

If this is going to be a place for good, constructive conversation then it needs to be encouraged, and the sort of rubbish we've seen here needs to be discouraged.

It not only keeps good posters (which encourages other good posters) but it also attracts thoughtful posters who may be lurking and wondering if they'd like to make the step to become contributors. 

[hardtack 10,127]

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[BDA 20,247]

22 minutes ago, Skuit said:

 

Appreciate the suggestion guys (and others). But have had enough. I support free speech but if Demonland doesn't want to shut down obvious trolls or deliberately destabilising influences because it drives traffic then I'm out. See you in the soup. And please keep up the good fight. Go Dees!

Don’t let the b*****ds drag you down!

Take some time out if that’s what you feel you need. You’re welcome back anytime.

[Demon trucker 1,776]

1 minute ago, Better days ahead said:

Don’t let the b*****ds drag you down!

Take some time out if that’s what you feel you need. You’re welcome back anytime.

Boo who

[hardtack 10,127]

54 minutes ago, Half forward flank said:

Yeah, get into cricket season where you can take your bat and ball home if things dont go your way Are you aware of the abuse I have copped just because I disagree with using our first pick on Ben brown

From the onset, you have by far been the most abusive person in this discussion. Anyone who disagrees with you was given a serve for absolutely no good reason. 

[Bitter but optimistic 21,329]

FMD !!! Things are a bit fiery tonight !!

Take a deep breath lads , thrash the maid if you have one , or ...... slosh down a decent Shiraz . 
 
 

[BDA 20,247]

3 minutes ago, don't make me angry said:

Boo who

Are you asking me who boo is? sorry can't help you there.

[FireInTheBennelly 4,024]

35 minutes ago, Half forward flank said:

And I think we need more Kozzis before a Ben Brown especially when we have TMac still around and Luke Jackson.

Looking back, might've been better to lead with that argument. Valid point, although I disagree that means we don't chase Brown.

Future reference.

[Binmans PA 26,260]

48 minutes ago, Half forward flank said:

And I think we need more Kozzis before a Ben Brown especially when we have TMac still around and Luke Jackson.

And what makes you think we're not targeting small forwards? This is nonsensical.

List management isn't about targeting one player and that's it. We're trying to address numerous weaknesses.

Tom McDonald is finished and has been since early 2019. Brown is a far superior player anyway.

As for Jackson, we shouldn't be expecting a second year tall and a still developing Weideman to be the key pillars up forward next year. Maybe by 2023.

In the meantime, we've secured Brown, we also secured Smith as another runner and are targeting small forwards as well.

[Rednblueriseing 657]

6 minutes ago, A F said:

And what makes you think we're not targeting small forwards? This is nonsensical.

List management isn't about targeting one player and that's it. We're trying to address numerous weaknesses.

Tom McDonald is finished and has been since early 2019. Brown is a far superior player anyway.

As for Jackson, we shouldn't be expecting a second year tall and a still developing Weideman to be the key pillars up forward next year. Maybe by 2023.

In the meantime, we've secured Brown, we also secured Smith as another runner and are targeting small forwards as well.

I may have missed the news but have  Brown or Smith said they coming to Dees??

[Binmans PA 26,260]

9 minutes ago, Rednblueriseing said:

I may have missed the news but have  Brown or Smith said they coming to Dees??

A couple of days ago. The news has only been confirmed on Demonland in the last two days by @Dr evil.

[hardtack 10,127]

12 minutes ago, A F said:

And what makes you think we're not targeting small forwards? This is nonsensical.

List management isn't about targeting one player and that's it. We're trying to address numerous weaknesses.

Tom McDonald is finished and has been since early 2019. Brown is a far superior player anyway.

As for Jackson, we shouldn't be expecting a second year tall and a still developing Weideman to be the key pillars up forward next year. Maybe by 2023.

In the meantime, we've secured Brown, we also secured Smith as another runner and are targeting small forwards as well.

And this is why I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see us giving Ronke some consideration.

[Ethan Tremblay 28,436]

2 hours ago, Half forward flank said:

Fragile petal. Bunch of lightweights. None of you would talk to people about footy the way you do in a public environment. And so fragile you cannot cope with those who are not as enthused about the person we intend to use our first pick on this year as you. 

I would absolutely love to. 

[binman 38,582]

32 minutes ago, A F said:

 

As for Jackson, we shouldn't be expecting a second year tall and a still developing Weideman to be the key pillar next year.

 

On Jackson i reckon with brown and weed in the team he will play almost a half forward  utility role, such is his athleticism and ability below his knees.

Get up and down the ground the way Hogan - and tmac in 2018 - did. Be a marking option when exiting our back half and of course still be an aerial threat up forward. 

He has unique attributes and of course he will do some rucking but I can also see him playing as a mid at times with Max rucking. 

He is something special. Really looking to seeing him after his first full preseason, with some space at the g and proper length quarters.

[Binmans PA 26,260]

Just now, binman said:

On Jackson i reckon with brown and weed in the team he will play almost a half forward  utility role, such is his athleticism and ability below his knees.

Get up and down the ground the way Hogan - and tmac in 2018 - did. Be a marking option when exiting our back half and of course still be an aerial threat up forward. 

He has unique attributes and of course he will do some rucking but I can also see him playing as a mid at times with Max rucking. 

He is something special. Really looking to seeing him after his first full preseason, with some space at the g and proper length quarters.

Completely agree. Can see us holding our forward structure a lot better this way too.

Keep one or two of Brown or Weideman or Petracca always deep and the other up at CHF. Gawn and Jackson as the exit kicks as you say.

[Demon Disciple 11,035]

43 minutes ago, A F said:

 

As for Jackson, we shouldn't be expecting a second year tall and a still developing Weideman to be the key pillars up forward next year. Maybe by 2023.

If it takes Weid 8 years to establish himself, then we may as well start looking for another young KPF to replace him.

[Binmans PA 26,260]

1 minute ago, Demon Disciple said:

If it takes Weid 8 years to establish himself, then we may as well start looking for another young KPF to replace him.

I meant that it'll take Jackson at least a few years to hold his spot as a genuine KPF. 

[Demon Disciple 11,035]

19 minutes ago, A F said:

I meant that it'll take Jackson at least a few years to hold his spot as a genuine KPF. 

That’s what I thought, though I think Jacko might surprise us and develop rapidly. For me, if Weid fails to take the next step next year we may as well put a line through him as a KPF.

Edited October 25, 2020 by Demon Disciple

[Binmans PA 26,260]

Just now, Demon Disciple said:

That’s what I thought, though I think Jack might surprise us and develop rapidly. For me, if Weid fails to take the next step next year we may as well put a line through him as a KPF.

We shall see. If he can kick 30+ I'll be happy. I'm hoping Brown can kick 40+. If qe can get more goals out of midfield, Fritsch and role players we'll be well on our way to the finals.