Welcome to Demonland: Jake Lever

[Demon trucker 1,749]

6 hours ago, Skuit said:

Yes, I was assuming we win the flag with the 'ish' as a small concession. Did you catch any of the latest season? I don't really want to spoil the ending, and it wasn't a realistic twist, but the Richmond Football ended up as the premiers.

What if  the  heavily tattooed man is the Richmond medals woman?

[KingDingAling 3,596]

10 minutes ago, don't make me angry said:

What if  the  heavily tattooed man is the Richmond medals woman?

I didn't see any tattoos on her - just a premiership medal.

[Demon trucker 1,749]

Just now, KingDingAling said:

I didn't see any tattoos on her - just a premiership medal.

The player had them maybe

[KingDingAling 3,596]

Just now, don't make me angry said:

The player had them maybe

You want to throw Dustbin under the bus? You not satisfied with the previous hatchet job the media did on the poor kid? Anyway, it wasn't Martin. Judging by the responses on big footy to the latest incident the player wasn't a star player (even though he has been referred to as one in the media).

[Demon trucker 1,749]

4 minutes ago, KingDingAling said:

You want to throw Dustbin under the bus? You not satisfied with the previous hatchet job the media did on the poor kid? Anyway, it wasn't Martin. Judging by the responses on big footy to the latest incident the player wasn't a star player (even though he has been referred to as one in the media).

Not throwing anyone under the bus it is 1 of the 22 flag winners could be Townsend or graham it is 1 of them what I am saying is what if and how does that change their team

Edited October 11, 2017 by don't make me angry

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

4 hours ago, CBDees said:

Melbourne should pay pick 10 (2017) and our second round (2018) for Lever and no more!

Why should we be trying creative packaging to obtain another first round pick, when Lever was:

1) Not in their top 10 B&F; and 

2) Scored 1 vote in the Brownlow (same as O. Mac)?

Are you talking about Jake Lever or Jack Watts?

Kidding ...

 

[Nascent 7,242]

1 hour ago, Watts Jurrah Dunn? said:

Because, by even the most conservative estimates, we've offered him 4 years at $750k, which is an A Grade salary.

Adelaide are quite rightly saying

- you've made Lever one of the highest paid 22 year olds in the game

- we've developed him beautifully

- you're going to get 200 games out of him

- your '17 and '18 first round picks aren't particularly special.  10 & 12 are hardly rolled gold top 5 picks.

Whilst I agree mostly with what you're saying, and wouldn't be particularly fazed if we gave two first rounders with another pick back our way, it's interesting that rockliff on a 4 x 650,000 contract is, reportedly, deemed worthy of an end of round 1 pick only by the afl. Of course there are a heap of variables/differences but interesting nonetheless.

[Dr.D 1,771]

4 hours ago, CBDees said:

Melbourne should pay pick 10 (2017) and our second round (2018) for Lever and no more!

Why should we be trying creative packaging to obtain another first round pick, when Lever was:

1) Not in their top 10 B&F; and 

2) Scored 1 vote in the Brownlow (same as O. Mac)?

Did you just compare Lever, a future AA who has already been named in the AA squad to Oscar McDonald who so far has yet to prove he belongs on an AFL field? Yikes! 

 

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,154]

17 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

Did you just compare Lever, a future AA who has already been named in the AA squad to Oscar McDonald who so far has yet to prove he belongs on an AFL field? Yikes! 

 

Is it possible to be a 'future' All Australian??

[mauriesy 6,790]

13 hours ago, DV8 said:

What, do you think we'd get a better player at Pick 16 next year, compared to what we would get at Pick 10 this 2017 draft?

I don't think so.

I think talk of "superdrafts" is rubbish, but if it were a "superdraft", surely you'd get good talent well into second-round picks. Otherwise it's not a "superdraft". 

[Dr.D 1,771]

17 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Is it possible to be a 'future' All Australian??

If you're in the squad at 21/22 years old then it's fair to assume.

[bandicoot 1,395]

2 hours ago, Watts Jurrah Dunn? said:

Because, by even the most conservative estimates, we've offered him 4 years at $750k, which is an A Grade salary.

Adelaide are quite rightly saying

- you've made Lever one of the highest paid 22 year olds in the game

- we've developed him beautifully

- you're going to get 200 games out of him

- your '17 and '18 first round picks aren't particularly special.  10 & 12 are hardly rolled gold top 5 picks.

Adelaide are in no position to negotiate. Either take what Melbourne gives you or the kid walks into the draft and Melbourne get him for free. 

Trelor was worth 2 first rounders. Lever is no where near trelor. Giving Crows 1st and 2nd round picks imo is still overs. 

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,154]

45 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

If you're in the squad at 21/22 years old then it's fair to assume.

So it would also be fair to assume that as Oscar has been a regular player in his second and third year in the AFL system, that he does in fact ‘belong on an AFL field’.

[Watts Jurrah Dunn? 735]

58 minutes ago, bandicoot said:

Adelaide are in no position to negotiate. Either take what Melbourne gives you or the kid walks into the draft and Melbourne get him for free. 

Trelor was worth 2 first rounders. Lever is no where near trelor. Giving Crows 1st and 2nd round picks imo is still overs. 

We'd get him for free?  Or we'd have to use pick 10 in the Draft?

Treloar was 2 first rounders and a 2nd rounder back.

However, Collingwood's first rounders were something like 6 and 8?

Melbourne's are going to be 10 and 12-14 (hopefully).

Lever is a Key Position Player, harder to find than midfielders.

Edited October 11, 2017 by Watts Jurrah Dunn?

[Roger Bonnici 16]

Is Lever really worth 2 first round picks, to me that's overs Melbourne should threaten to let him nominate for the daft and put Adelaide under pressure then they get nothing

[The Stigga 879]

Yes

[64" 97]

Totally agree.l would luv to see it tested.

[DistrACTION Jackson 6,418]

Not yet. Could be.

[Crystal Dees 372]

Not worth a 4th rounder. Will never be any good!

*I reserve the right to change this opinion once the deal is completed ?

[jnrmac 18,953]

3 hours ago, don't make me angry said:

What if  the  heavily tattooed man is the Richmond medals woman?

Thats a Broad accusation to make....

[Members' Wing 1,106]

22 minutes ago, Roger Bonnici said:

Is Lever really worth 2 first round picks, to me that's overs Melbourne should threaten to let him nominate for the daft and put Adelaide under pressure then they get nothing

Someone's daft alright.

[DemonLad5 1,637]

Right now, no. Could he be in 2-3 years? Absolutely 

[DSP 1,488]

This was talked about on SEN yesterday. They said Level is on par if not ahead of Rance when they were at the same age.

Absolutely has the potential to be a 10 year, A grade defender for us.

[Scipio 5,868]

1 minute ago, DSP said:

This was talked about on SEN yesterday. They said Level is on par if not ahead of Rance when they were at the same age.

Absolutely has the potential to be a 10 year, A grade defender for us.

You can do that with so many players over the years though. The truth is, we won't know until Lever has played a similar number of games as Rance in his prime, and a similar age.

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,151]

Not sure he's as good as Rance but may have Damien Gaspar, Tom Gillies and James Seller covered.