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The Petracca v McCartin debate reprised

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Just now, John Crow Batty said:

Not fair on St Kilda fans of us highjacking their favourite debate. 

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    On 4/1/2017 at 10:49 AM, Clint Bizkit said:

    This is the thing, with top five draft picks you don't just want a "good" player, you need someone special like Petracca and Oliver already are (hopefully Brayshaw follows suit).

    I mentioned on here early in Toumpas' career that if that draft was done again I'd be surprised if he's get picked up at all, that is a monumental drafting mistake.

    Preach.

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    I vote we take the high road on this one.

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    If one cannot laugh at St Kilda and its monumental heroic ineptitude since 1896, what can one laugh at? This is not life-and-death stuff. It is sport. 

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    Trac always looked like he had star potential. McCartin was just a big kid who could outmark other kids. He never had the athletic potential to be a star. A good fwd at best imo. 

    a terrible error. Saints would be a different team with Trac in it

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    Just now, DubDee said:

    Trac always looked like he had star potential. McCartin was just a big kid who could outmark other kids. He never had the athletic potential to be a star. A good fwd at best imo. 

    a terrible error. Saints would be a different team with Trac in it

    Also taking Billing’s over Bont is horrendous.   Can you imagine a midfield  with Bont and Trac in it.  

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    I feel sorry for McCartin whose dream of becoming an AFL star was limited by his bouts of concussion a la Brayshaw and have a medical condition to boot may have some effect on his performances.

    We got the better of this deal but the MFC had some of these boo boo's like Molan and Cook who never looked like AFL players at any stage of their time at the MFC.

    I remember when the MFC lost Schwarz to injury after injury how it curtailed him from becoming one of the greatest MFC players of all time.

     

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    3 hours ago, DubDee said:

    Trac always looked like he had star potential. McCartin was just a big kid who could outmark other kids. He never had the athletic potential to be a star. A good fwd at best imo. 

    a terrible error. Saints would be a different team with Trac in it

    ,,,and so would we

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    Who reprised this old hornet. 
     

    shame on you - “to the naughty chair”

    Richo knew exactly what he was doing 

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    11 hours ago, durango said:

    I feel sorry for McCartin whose dream of becoming an AFL star was limited by his bouts of concussion a la Brayshaw and have a medical condition to boot may have some effect on his performances.

    We got the better of this deal but the MFC had some of these boo boo's like Molan and Cook who never looked like AFL players at any stage of their time at the MFC.

    I remember when the MFC lost Schwarz to injury after injury how it curtailed him from becoming one of the greatest MFC players of all time.

     

    Molan was cruelled by injuries. Cook was a clanger.

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    4 hours ago, hemingway said:

    This thread is so old hat, but years down the Trac it is still revisited. 

    Let it be Gawn, I say....

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    11 hours ago, Demons11 said:

    Also taking Billing’s over Bont is horrendous.   Can you imagine a midfield  with Bont and Trac in it.  

    Can you imagine a midfield with Trac & Clarry in it???

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    … and we chose trengove and scully without even interviewing Martin. we’ve come out on top here and that’s great fr us , but stones and glass houses hey. let’s not be throwing them. 

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    I think it's best to be humble.

    We have had many drafting mistakes ourselves in the past.

    Being able to develop players is crucial too. Jack Watts' development was definitely handled poorly at the time.

    All I can say is that we are incredibly lucky to have Jason Taylor and I hope we can continue to have him as our National Recruiting Manager at the Melbourne Demons for many years to come.

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    3 hours ago, Mono said:

    Molan was cruelled by injuries. Cook was a clanger.

    I maintain that Molan is the unluckiest player ever drafted.  Reading his playing history is like a Greek Tragedy.  The Gods were punishing the poor guy. 

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    If you look at the 2014 AFL draft GWS had a mare. The only really good player was Steele who they gave away. 

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    11 hours ago, rjay said:

    Can you imagine a midfield with Trac & Clarry in it???

    I don’t need to imagine that one, I watch the GF replay once a week

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    On 10/17/2021 at 12:20 AM, Cheesy D. Pun said:

    I vote we take the high road on this one.

    Yes. We’ve hardly had a flawless history at the draft. We passed on Dustin Martin twice. 

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    43 minutes ago, Nelo said:

    If you look at the 2014 AFL draft GWS had a mare. The only really good player was Steele who they gave away. 

    I just had a look out of interest and i doubt whether has been a better draft year for Melbourne than 2014

    From the players drafted in 2014 we now have Petracca (2) Brayshaw (3) Lever (14) Neal-Bullen (40) and Langdon (54).

    Even the two Melbourne players no longer with us had serviceable careers Stretch (42) 47 games, and Oscar McDonald (53) 82 games including 1 for Carlton. 

    There are only 37 players drafted that year still on AFL lists.  Only 16 have played 100 games.

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    On 10/17/2021 at 10:17 AM, Demons11 said:

    Also taking Billing’s over Bont is horrendous.   Can you imagine a midfield  with Bont and Trac in it.  

    We almost took Billings, Roos rated him over Kelly but we got the Tyson deal done and took Salem

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    Jimmy Toumpas was our Paddy McCartin.

    To think the reining Brownlow medalist was living with Todd Viney at the time and we still passed on him. A mare if there ever was one.

    Seduced by Lil Jimmy's Youtube highlights reel me thinks.

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    On 10/18/2021 at 10:06 AM, Demons11 said:

    I don’t need to imagine that one, I watch the GF replay once a week

    Only once a week??  Too easily satisfied.

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    On 10/17/2021 at 10:17 AM, Demons11 said:

    Can you imagine a midfield  with Bont and Trac in it.  

    Don't need to. We have Clarrie and Trac.

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