THE DROUGHT IS OVER by George on the Outer - POST MATCH DISCUSSION

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

Loved our grit.

Goodwin also a smart operator clearly. 

Oscar McDonald. Out. Now.

I would have Pedo in ahead of him in a heartbeat.

[old dee 23,790]

Where is "Joe Boy"?

[deanox 9,915]

5 minutes ago, Nasher said:

What was important for mine was that during the first quarter where we were struggling a bit, Vince, Lewis and especially Jones were still able to lead the way.  It was the pups that lifted their game later during the 2nd and 3rd quarter blitz, but for mine that may not have happened if our top 3 senior players weren't leading the way.  All three were outstanding for mine.

Oliver though.  Wow.  That performance came as a surprise to exactly zero MFC supporters, of course, but gee it's good to see it starting to happen.  The only players who spent less time on the ground than Oliver were Smith and Melksham, for the record.

At 3/4 time clayton was top possessions for least time as well. 

I've been getting texts from non mfc supporters watching at home commenting on how good Oliver was. 

 

 

Fwiw i didn't think we were horrible in the first.  We lost the inside mid battle but the rest of the side was competing and working hard. 

[Toorak 108]

You'd think Saints could spell the name of their sponsor when it's all over their jerseys It's Dare not "Drae"

[Nasher 33,616]

1 minute ago, ENYAW said:

Who were the dees goal kickers? How did the weed and Hanna play? anyone.

Garlett Hogan 3 Hannan Petracca 2 Watts Weideman Stretch Vince Brayshaw Jones Neal-Bullen 1

Weideman struggled to get in the game early, worked in later.  Showed some good use of the ball when he had it - gets in to position to mark, needs to start plucking them.

Hannan was electric.  Fantastic debut.

[Engorged Onion 10,215]

1 minute ago, Nasher said:

Garlett Hogan 3 Hannan Petracca 2 Watts Weideman Stretch Vince Brayshaw Jones Neal-Bullen 1

Weideman struggled to get in the game early, worked in later.  Showed some good use of the ball when he had it - gets in to position to mark, needs to start plucking them.

Hannan was electric.  Fantastic debut.

Ideally he would be plucking them - it'll come - someone else mentioned he's similar to an early 'Prince of Perth'... id say thats a fair likeness.. he'll be bloody graceful and smooth though...

[Engorged Onion 10,215]

Out of curiosity for the doubters of ANB - (which i have always had a soft spot) Does anyone think he'd lose his spot for anyone next week based on output today?

Edited March 25, 2017 by Danelska

[bandicoot 1,395]

1 hour ago, Wiseblood said:

After quarter time you could argue that we didn't have one bad player on the park.  Everyone made a contribution to the victory.  To roll the Saints on their home turf like that shows how far we've come as a club.  I couldn't be more excited right now and I hope everyone else is, too! 

Goodwin had a plan B... Roos would have stuck with plan A until it was too late 

[What 18,810]

Saint fans have been talking up their two new key backs Brown and Carlisle all preseason, one game in and Hulk Hogan made them both look like trash.

[Gator 17,342]

When is the last time we had 450 disposals ?  Ever ?

I'm too lazy to look it up.

[PaulRB 6,363]

That's harsh on Roos, we bounced back against the Kangas last year after a wipe out first term. 

Edited March 25, 2017 by PaulRB

[Nasher 33,616]

2 minutes ago, bandicoot said:

Goodwin had a plan B... Roos would have stuck with plan A until it was too late 

Plan B: "start playing good"?  

Hard to tell on TV of course, but I didn't see any amazing tactical or structural changes.  We just turned up the dial. 

[Wiseblood 24,637]

Just now, Danelska said:

Out of curiosity for the doubters of ANB - (which i have always had a soft spot) Does anyone think he'd lose his spot for anyone next week based on output today?

Smith may be the only forced change, and you would think Dom Tyson (if he got through today without any hassles) would be in line to come back in.  That may mean Salem is pushed to half back a little to cover Smith and to allow for Tyson to come in.

What I'm getting at is that ANB won't be dropped off the back of that performance.

[Wiseblood 24,637]

Just now, Nasher said:

Plan B: "start playing good"?  

Hard to tell on TV of course, but I didn't see any amazing tactical or structural changes.  We just turned up the dial. 

Goodwin even mentioned himself that the turn around after quarter time was the players getting back to playing 'our' way - there would have been some minor tweaks and a few reminders in there, but as you say, there wasn't anything more than that.

[Josh 1,420]

15 minutes ago, old dee said:

Where is "Joe Boy"?

My 3 word analysis of joeboy - please come back

[Engorged Onion 10,215]

I do wish Bernie would effing stop sniping people in play (can think of 3 occasions in the 2 qrt that I watched) He does it game in game out - is the worst 'overt' sniper since David King finished up...

[poita 3,902]

Outstanding result today, well done to the boys. Our play in the second and third quarters, in an important game, was as good as we have seen for a decade. To bounce back after a horrible first quarter was really pleasing. Our senior players really led the way in keeping a steady ship, and the others followed. It would be nice to see that kind of resilience on a regular basis.

Oliver and Petracca were fantastic. Jones superb. Max had a great last three quarters. Oscar and Vince were very good after poor starts. Hogan and Garlett did a great job of taking their chances when they came. Hannan looked right at home at that level. Really everyone made a contribution, with the likely exception of Melksham who was very poor. A tough way for Smith to start his career, but he will be back, no doubt at all.

Next week will be a good test, to not only beat Carlton, but to beat them well. I have no doubt we are ten goal better side than the Blues if we play properly throughout.

And finally, to see Nick Riewoldt go down like that, particularly with the game decided, was very sad. He is a true champion, and I hope his career isn't over.

[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,654]

2 minutes ago, Danelska said:

I do wish Bernie would effing stop sniping people in play (can think of 3 occasions in the 2 qrt that I watched) He does it game in game out - is the worst 'overt' sniper since David King finished up...

I do wish people would think before they posted.

 

as the old saying goes, better to say nothing and let people think you are dumb than to say something and prove that you are...

[Engorged Onion 10,215]

@Rod Grinter Riot Squad, rather than speaking in opaque cliches.... feel free to elaborate on the 'dumbness' in the statement...

[bing181 9,234]

12 minutes ago, bandicoot said:

Goodwin had a plan B... Roos would have stuck with plan A until it was too late 

No.

If there's any difference between Goodwin and Roos it's that they have different players at their disposal. In particular ... Lewis. Arguably our best player in the first quarter, and just having him out there each week is going to make a huge difference.

[Pates 9,660]

12 minutes ago, bandicoot said:

Goodwin had a plan B... Roos would have stuck with plan A until it was too late 

That is incredibly disrespectful to a guy that has laid the foundation for us having success. By Goodwin's own words he reinforced the message that has been drilled into them all summer, it's not like he pulled out a clipboard labeled "plan B".

What we did after quarter time was lower the eyes and spot up shorter kicks because it was St Kilda's game plan to have a loose man behind the ball, too often in the first quarter we blazed away and kicked it long which played into St Kilda's hands. 

I get the feeling that match day for a coach isn't so much about pulling good ideas out of your butt, it's about drilling into the players the structures and plans they've worked on and tweeking them through the game with certain players. 

[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,654]

1 minute ago, Danelska said:

@Rod Grinter Riot Squad, rather than speaking in opaque cliches.... feel free to elaborate on the 'dumbness' in the statement...

Bernie the most overt sniper since King finished. No need to elaborate...

[Gorgoroth 12,950]

The McDonalds really really really need to work on their kicking. Deplorable is putting it nice.

 

Oliver was immense, Jetta all class, Hannan fit right in, big Maxy just rolling on  from last year. Jeffy looked like he had all the zip.

enjoy having Lewis in our colours.

[Engorged Onion 10,215]

Disagree with you Rod, you're entitled to your opinion.  No need to name call like a 10yo in your response though.

[NowWeKnow 130]

2 hours ago, Abe said:

1. Feel deeply for rewoldt 

2. Jordan Lewis was huge 

3. Clarry is amazing 

4. We need to back that up now. 

I understand the Saints trying to emulate the Bulldogs game plan of last year, but getting their most loved and loyal veteran to do his knee early in the season is probably taking things to far.